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Just keep posing his name and business name into this thread.
Repeat it a few times, Goohle tends to like that
[i]Repeat it a few times, Goohle tends to like that [/i]
Google like natural language so if you write a paragraph of prose that contains the business name etc it'll get a far higher rank than just spamming the thread with the name.
Reading the last few posts I'd be thinking of going to the police as a group and reporting him - there's enough of a pattern to indicate it's his standard business practice to sell unroadworthy vehicles. Also, if he gets fresh MOTs for these things it would be worth reporting the testing station as there's clearly something up.
Although the whole police thing is a tricky one if you're hoping he carries on in business so he can return your money as you don't want him winding the whole thing up and walking away.
I fear there's no easy solution and that ultimately he's expert at stringing people along and giving them just enough cash back each time there's a crisis to keep them from taking more drastic action.
Hi Wool thanks for getting back to me, I can't find your profile info or email, maybe it's on a privacy setting. My email is Paul.eddon@btinternet.com As there now seems to be 4 of us that have had the same issue in the last few months, unfortunately it seems he is purposely selling dodgy vehicles and then hiding from his moral or legal responsibility of fixing the problems or refunding money. Mine is now in the hands of the solicitors and I sending the case file to trading standards today. It will make the case against him stronger if we are all linked together.
Hmm.. you've got his facebook profile.. I'd save a copy of his friends list, then pay him a visit.. unless he pays you back in full, then you'll contact every single one of his friends and family asking about his whereabouts as he's taken 12.5k of your money and is refusing to pay it back - he's not going to want his friends and family knowing about how he treats people..
I had to do the same to a client who ripped me off.. they ran a local business networking group as a side line, and it was only once I mentioned I would start contacting their fellow local business owners that they paid up immediately.
Thanks tiny bits
An update on mine. Three months down the line and Stott still defiant and not paying back £13,140.00 for the junk he sent to me. I got Vosa involved for a mot inspection. They have failed it. Vosa is dealing with the guy he used for MOT's so he won't have his dodgy friend anymore to put them through. Guys get your vehicles re- tested. He has set up another Ltd co at the same premises calling it Land Rover Restorations. Wonder why !!! I can guess. Also set up a few weeks ago another business buying tractor's etc (no doubt funded by our cash)
Stott previously tried and failed at this (check companies house) compulsory strike off two years ago. Was 20 years old when he started the first time. Wants to pretend be somebody and he's going to con and thieve all the way. Any new readers to this forum. If you need to know more about what he has done to me and the scrap heap he delivered just contact me at.... mick.fiona@yahoo.co.uk Stay well clear of Ryan Stott.
what exactly is the problem with these Defenders? what are they failing subsequent/genuine MOT's on?
Vosa is dealing with the guy he used for MOT's so he won't have his dodgy friend anymore to put them through
Makes you wonder how much of a kickback they were getting to make losing their business a risk worth taking.
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I can't not see the word sexcavations.
Mine has a MOT it all worked it had a few defects but it is 10 years old and so I can accept some thing's are not going to right.
Its just the bent chassis that I wasn't going to accept.
how bent is bent? is it creased? (cant remember if we've covered this?)
Bent enough for my independent Land Rover man/ fixer to say you need to take that back now and ask for your money back. I thought that a spring had broken on the front NS until my man had had a look at it, Then it was game over for my bank account. 😥
Wool I doubt if the bent chassis would have passed a legitimate MOT (probably got his dodgy friend to put it through) Please correct me if I am wrong.
Bongohoohaa that link works when I hit on it. Go on FB and search Ryan Stott Excavations and agricultural services. Here's the link again.
RustyNissanPrairie There are more faults than you would ever believe. Faults all over from minor to serious. If you want a chat I can tell you all mine. email me first on...... mick.fiona@yahoo.co.uk
Wool...... Have you still got the MOT certificate? If you have tell me who the garage was and I can tell you from there if it's the same guy that did mine.
Wool any updates ????
What an effing scumbag.
If best warn my old boy about this as he's been looking at buying a defender of late, 1 guy online to definitely avoid.
What an effing scumbag.If best warn my old boy about this as he's been looking at buying a defender of late, 1 guy online to definitely avoid.
There's too much tarted up blinged crap out there - if you are looking at Defenders - take someone who knows them inside out down to individual part numbers for stuff and let them crawl all over it. Dont be seduced by Momo steering wheels and bolted on shiny stuff.
I could honestly only recommend three places to buy a Defender from, one is somewhere a friend has had a few from without issue, one is a main dealer that a mate works at who hates selling Defenders to anyone other than farmers as he knows how crap they actually are and peoples unrealistic dreams of buying into the marketing hype, the other I've looked at stock for friends a few times and they seem ok.
This sad tale needs to be on the tv somehow, even better now the mot scam is in there and it affects quite a few people....
Keep the updates coming...
Put the reg up and we can check the faults ourselves online.
Dear Wool
I had the same treatment with Mr Ryan Stott. I bought a 90 from him in September last year. On the day of collection, having met him at the Peterborough show and bought extras and paying up front, I realised he had lied about the model, the condition, milage,and much more. He offered a full refund which was not forthcoming. After more lies and false hopes I took a County Court Judgement against him. In April this year I was one of the lucky ones and managed to get £6000 back but am still owed £4500. He has now gone into voluntary liquidation and there too many people owed money and none in the pot. My judgement is against him though not the company so there maybe a chance to chase him further, but I need to get further advice. He now works for or is running Rossendale Agricultural Services, beware farmers. You can find him on Facebook under the new company name and his. This has bought us tears,debt and anger in equal measures. Please let me know if I can be of any help.
[i] He has now gone into voluntary liquidation[/i]
There was a certain inevitability about this, sadly.
I hope people are able to recover at least some of their money.
Is this him? [url=
I know this doesn't help. But is this guy really charming? Just wondering how he convinced so many people to hand over large sums of money for vehicles they had not seen yet.
Hi runty
Many thanks for posting. We are all in to together now and i would love to have a chat with you
Can you contact me asap at... email address mick.fiona@yahoo.co.uk
Much appreciated. mot365-123
HI wwaswas. Yes that is the slimy disgraceful thief. Likes his expensive gear !! Not even three months in business and did it to Runty !! He won't get away with it forever. His day is coming to an end; I am sure of that. What colour do they wear in the nick 😀
Rossendale Agricultural Services, beware farmers... God help the farmers if they are dealing with Ryan Stott...
Its the creditors meeting tomorrow in Manchester, I do think a change in the law is required as this happens to many times with people hiding behind LTD company status.
Close it all down when things get too sticky and restart again under a new trading name, Leaving a trail of people out of pocket.
Here's a video of mine £13140,00 worth of junk from Bespoke Defender's
I don't understand mot365, you're pointing out loads of faults with your landrover, but didn't you see all this before you paid the guy?
There seems to be a lot of people buying defenders who don't seem to know much about defenders. As well as buying blind for some reason?*
Which given their niche usage, and cost, I find genuinely surprisingly.
*Assume buying blind, as I cannot see why else mot would have bought that for £14k if he'd seen those issues.
mot365, why did you hand over over £13k for that defender? Did you go and see it before you bought it? I'm not taking the p but I can't understand what happened there.
@mistumonkey
Someone else in the thread appears to have paid outright at the LRO show before even seeing the vehicle as well.
All very odd.
It was being built up to order for spec so you need to pay them before you actually receive the vehicle. Yes i saw it before it was delivered and refused it. Ryan Stott it arrogant and defiant. He would not give me my money back, said he had spent it. I had no option but to have it delivered. Most of the other fault's you can't see on the video, IE the VOSA report of a refusal of a MOT cert was issued by his dodgy MOT guy just after it so called had a 12 month MOT after he delivered it. And regarding paying him yes it was a stupid thing to do but its how he works. This guy talks the talk shows you other vehicles (which he claims to be his high class bespoke work) Your in his trap by then. 26 other faults.
That's shocking I thought landrovers uk (mells) had stiffed me when I got mine but nothing as bad as that, but do the doors/bonnet ever fit much better than that ?
What did vosa fail your 90 on if you dont mind me asking
And Id also suggest taking out the carpet in the front until you fix any water ingress
What a shite he is, it's almost legalised theft! Where to now though? If he's liquidated his company can you pursue him personally??? I should look to see where he advertises, magazines etc and let them know what he's up to get his ads stopped, he needs his life and business being made very, very difficult for him.
It was being built up to order for spec so you need to pay them before you actually receive the vehicle.
No, you really don't.
Paying a deposit would be fine, and would have kept £13,000 in your hands until he did a proper job.
VOSA failure's are as follows
Steering lock device missing offside front ( to nearside steering arm from steering box)
windscreen wiper not operating automatically when switched on off side ( linkage detached)
Head lamp not working on main beam near side
Head lamp excessively deteriorated so that the light output is severely reduced offside (intermittent fault on dip beam)
Rear position lamp (s) not working off side.
Stop lamp not working near side rear.
Stop lamp adversely affected by the operation of another lamp ( Both stop lamps not operating with obligatory lamps lit )
Electrical wiring insecure rear ( wiring loom near exhaust )
Break pipe inadequately clipped ( front to rear )
Break pipe inadequately clipped off side front (pipe valve to flexible )
Passenger seat insecure nearside rear
Passenger seat insecure offside rear
Advisory items;
7 out of 23 body mountain bolts missing, 2 body rail mountain missing corroded
Vin plate miss printed no vin no on galvanized chassis
air cleaner insecure.
THIS IS ONLY A PARTIAL INSPECTION
Vin plate miss printed no vin no on galvanized chassis
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Well...tbh, most of those are 😯
So let me get this right, this vehicle came with a new MOT cert? If so, what action is being taken against the tester who issued it?
Also, as per Cranberry, you didn't need to pay up front. I think this guy just has the gift of the gab, and convinced you otherwise.
As an aside, I am in no way trying to kick people when they are down, as getting done is never fun, especially with the amounts of cash involved. Hopefully this thread will imprint the knowledge that it goes:
Inspection then payment
Obviously, it would be nice if shits like you lot are dealing with didn't exist, but sadly they do.
CRANBERRY
IT IS A BIGGER STORY THAN THAT. HE IS A CON MAN AND PUTS YOU IN A TRAP. ONCE YOU ARE IN IT THERE IS NO GOING BACK. WOOL HAS NO VEHICLE AND NO MONEY BACK !!!!
BONGOHOOHAA
Maybe so but that has got to be put on the crtificate.
Action has been taken. VOSA has dealt with that.
Sorry but the vin number missing /miss printed screams they aint being built to order but infact being stolen to order,
No danger id buy a landy unseen . Not on your nelly.
mitsumonky
We will keep you posted later. Tis ongoing. Just need people to know he is now trading as Land Rover restoration at the same unit and also on eBay as lrdefender 1948-2016. eBay is the dangerous one because people do buy from far and wide and payment is made from there. He doesn't give his company trading name on or his personal name therefore cannot be traced. If you can find any magazine advertising please do inform them.
That's quite a list , thanks for shareing what's turned out to be horid time.
As was mentioned a few pages ago is it worth contacting any of the consumer programmes as he's taken a few of you for a ride
The main thing at the moment is to get the word out that he is now trading as Land Rover restorations and on eBay. Get him out of business until other things happen. Don't want him sweet talking others into believing he is a reputable Land Rover restoration dealer. He can find a nine to five job like any other and fund his lifestyle. 29 years old, what a legacy !!!
That's only the VOSA list Iv'e got another load had done from a Land Rover mechanic. Engine fault etc. No split pin in steering etc. I will post it another time.
What key words are best for Google to pick up this thread that Landrover restorations are bent dodgy and a rip off ?
Bespoke defenders Ryan Stott brings this thread up at the top.
Ryan Stott was totally unrepentant at the creditors meeting, I asked him as the chairman / director of a business in difficulty how he managed to go to Florida for two weeks. His reply was if his partner chooses to take him away that was up to her. Now I am sure that it was my money that was used but he missed the point entirely, He should have been working his a** off to get things back on track. If he is running Land Rover restorations LTD or Rossindale Agricultural Services it's all going to be a sorry mess again. Legalised theft is what it is I am £8000 pounds down and have no defender. Steer clear of Ryan Stott.
Not defending the guy at all here - but those panel gaps are pretty standard for a Defender at the best of times. The plastic spats are held on with crap plastic rivets. Wet roof lining is pretty standard for a Defender with a sunroof - most of them leak.
Engine sounds okay for a 300tdi - they are all noisy. I presume its a 300tdi as it has the earlier style rear door (the plastic cover is missing from around the lock) and hence why the central locking doesnt work - they never had them fitted to this style door. If its a TD5 then its the wrong rear door. It also has a 300tdi grille panel (albeit with TD5 light surrounds) hence why I think its a 300tdi.
Have a look on the V5 - you possibly have a 90hardtop (commercial) with windows fitted to it - it should have the plastic interior window surrounds if its a genuine CSW/SW.
Vin plate miss printed no vin no on galvanized chassis
Galv chassis wont have the Vin number stamped on them from either Richards or Marslands.
The usual thing to do is to cut up the old chassis and keep the Vin number part for future reference if needed.
edited to add - just watched your engine youtube vid - its a late model 300TDI with a badly painted bulkhead. I couldn't see the bracket for the air cleaner/air box-its usually held in place with the cylinder head bolts, if its not there it might be a Discovery engine with the Defender airbox and inlet hose.- check the engine number.
Got to agree with RustyNissanPrairie; whilst there's no way of ever part with £13 grand for an old defender, the entire video pretty much documents an... old defender. Nothing in the least bit alarming about any of it, except the price, and possibly your expectations of the polishing of the turd when actually it was only ever going to get rolled in glitter. All the faults, both on the video and the VOSA list, are pretty standard stuff for a 90. (Although the windscreen wiper gearbox is a pain in the arse).
Bespoke defenders Ryan Stott brings this thread up at the top.
That is because you use Singletrack - Google weighs search results, putting a higher weighting on those sites that you use most.
Shows up when using an incognito window, so assume it'll show for non-STW users. All the same, have some more keywords.
Name: Ryan John Stott
Date of Birth: July 1987
Age: 28
Nationality: British
Residence: United Kingdom
Address: Bacup
United Kingdom
OL13 9RW
Lancashire
Last updated: 2016-06-13
Director at:
Land Rover Restorations Ltd
Occupation: Mechanics
Appointed: 2016-02-25
Address: Unit 11a New Line Industrial Estate
Bacup
UNITED KINGDOM
OL13 9RW
United Kingdom
Incorporation date: 2016-02-25
http://www.checkdirector.co.uk/director/ryan-stott/
RustyNissanPrairie and V8Ninety I think you'll find you are both wrong in your analysis. Check out this seller of his "old Defenders" being restored. There is no comparison and you can see how the job should/could have been done, In consideration that Stott put's himself out as a quality "Bespoke" dealer it is quite obvious from what he has done to all of us that he is nothing more than a con man with NO experience what so ever, not forgetting the parts that were paid for and not supplied. As for the central locking where you get your ideas from that they don't work on defenders is crazy !! My rear door should have had it fitted ( I paid for that also) He put a old door on and there is no key to lock it so the vehicle sits open all the time. You don't happen to live in Bacup do you ?? The sun roof leaks because no seal has been fitted.
Here is a link to another group "Defender and series" Scroll down and you will come to a guy Gorcy Seprano. Stott has ruined his vehicle, his sun roof leaks so much that he has had to put a tarpaulin on it overnight !!!! He is a con man financing his own agendas.
My second and third video to be posted later.
nothing more than a con man with NO experience what so ever,
I dunno. He seems to have quite a bit of experience in his chosen field.
From that FB link:
This is some photos from my pride and joy Landrover defender 90 I just picked up from bespoke defenders in rosendale. I paid £4600 to get paintwork, alpine Windows, and side sliding Windows.
Do defender owners love paying up front or something?
Defender and Series group.
Scroll down to Gorcy Suprano. Excellent bit of experience on his vehicle bongahoohaa !!! I sincerely hope you don't you ever set up a restoration garage.
Decent people put trust in others, we don't expect to be ripped off by runts like Stott. The majority of traders are honest, unfortunately we have been caught up with one of the worst. Don't go passing the blame onto the buyer. Lessons have been learnt. The positive in it is; WE will get Stott the liar and a thief of the radar for good.He won't be doing this, to anybody else.
I'm very sympathetic, as you've obviously been done like a kipper. That Stott character evidently knows how to dress up a turkey and flog it.
I didn't say it was a 'restored' defender (whatever that is) and personally I'd steer clear of anyone who puts the word 'bespoke' in their business title, it stands out a mile (along with 'gourmet', 'artisan' etc) as a fishing ploy to catch gullible people with too much money who want to get a Land Rover as a lifestyle vehicle, but don't want to do the legwork or hard work themselves. If you want to buy a restored anything, surely you need to view other examples of the blokes work, talk to previous customers, things like that? Your video shows a bog standard 300tdi ninety that has been chucked onto a galv chassis as cheaply as possible, with not a lot of care taken. That said, it's not ruined, it's a nice tinkering project for someone who understands landrovers to get stuck into. Probably worth about £5-6k, optimistically.
"As for the central locking where you get your ideas from that they don't work on defenders is crazy"
Did 300tdis defenders even have central locking from factory ? must be rocking horse poop ive never seen one - maybe real CSWs did?? - were the rear doors not still lift up handles for the majority of the 300s.
id also like to bring to your attention
the land rover offical water ingress manual.
[url] http://www.landroverweb.com/Pdf-files/Manuals/Land_Rover_Defender_Water_Ingress_Manual.pdf [/url]
when i went shopping to for a 2-300 tdi with a significant wedge in my pocket (and already owning a 2.5TD ninety) after looking at several - and several "restorers" i kept my money in my pocket and restored my current ninety by hand. What i saw even at the specialists didnt impress me much. Old 90 was still an old 90 even with a new chassis under it. and as above - there didnt seem to have been much care taken.
Mines aint straight either - but it also didnt cost me 5 figures to do so i can deal with it.
Anything properly "restored" will be expensive as it takes alot of time(and new parts) to do it right - you aint gonna get no bargain.
How ever i agree Wool has been ****ed over with a bent chassis and now no landy ...
Bloody Hell! I thought that was going to be a joke link!
it works as well sobriety - i followed it pretty much to the letter when i put my landy together and i stay dry - except when i wade in water so deep it comes in the door shuts 😀
Stott and his "Land Rover restorations". Restored...to bring back into existence, reestablish the act of restoring; renewal, revival.
Thanks for your concern. I did view other examples of his work, on his website and Facebook and also at his unit before I chose the shell which he was starting to work on and it was in his paint shop.That vehicle was to be put together to my specifications. On the pro invoice he wrote that it would be fully refurbished and new carpet front and back also listed were my extras, extras which I never received. Central locking on rear door, pedal lock and silver steps. I checked for bad reviews and nothing showed up at that time. I spoke with him for well over an hour and he showed me work he had (allegedly) done on several vehicles including his own. He's a con man and a liar and he is the one in the wrong here. What's happened to all of us has happened, what we are doing now is just getting him off the radar and hopefully, out of business.
Stott put the vehicle out to a garage Auto Electrical Serviced Halifax. Been in business for 40 years. He delivered it to them with no bonnet or back door attached. He instructed them not to put central locking on the back door ( well it wasn't there to do it) I had paid for it to be put on. The two side doors have central locking now and work perfectly. The only decent bit of work that has been done on it.
As for the central locking where you get your ideas from that they don't work on defenders is crazy !! My rear door should have had it fitted ( I paid for that also) He put a old door on and there is no key to lock it so the vehicle sits open all the time. You don't happen to live in Bacup do you ?? The sun roof leaks because no seal has been fitted.
Factory fitted central locking was fitted to TD5 XS models and onwards. TDI's never had it unless aftermarket.
I live in the Rossendale Valley and I'm involved in the Landrover world, I've commented in this and other LR threads on STW and PM'ed/messaged people regarding buying LR's from suppliers in the valley.
I renovate LR's (and other stuff) in my spare time. The level I work to is financially unviable as a business as I go far beyond what other people do 'renovation' wise.
It is impossible to do it properly and make money.
As I said above - you and others have been ripped off by this guy, and its the one thing I hate about Defenders - the crime wave that almost certainly follows them.
....It is impossible to do it properly and make money.Most DEFINITELY wrong there RustyNissanPrairie
I posted this link above. Have a look at this guys vehicles and the price. STUNNING!!! and very very reasonable. This is where I had originally thought of going it was just the distance that put me off and then Stott somehow showed up on my search. Biggest mistake of my life.
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sorry that facebook page shows nothing.
fancy paintwork hides alot of sins - and thats ALL he shows on that page.
im sure they are great underneath too but a facebook page shows nothing.
Utter rubbish !!!Talking bollocks there lad. Take it you didn't look at the work inside the vehicle's either. Talking of paint work I'll post the video of Stott's "fancy paintwork" on mine.Do you happen to live in Bacup too ?
mot365 - I think what the lads are trying to reason with you is that a brand new Defender was never really that good other than as a tool for a job. It didnt have any frills that were that good etc etc.
If it was used for the purpose it was intended for then parts would wear out. The vast majority of them were therefore rattle boxes and not really that suited to lifestyle vehicles which is what people like yourself seem to expect. So you have a rattle box that people like stott gloss over the rough bits, bolt on a few bits of bling and sell to people like yourself.
To do the job properly either takes some skilled person like some of the forum members on here with any amount of time and money to work methodically through the vehicle imrpoving as they go and working in known fixes to existing problems. Or it takes a garage mega bucks to do. I work in the commercial motor trade and there is no way any of these projects would be commercially viable if you introduce labour hours into them to do the work properly.
There will be different levels of end product (I didnt want to say polishing a turd) but i would be very surpised if, within your kind of budget you were getting anything more than a fresh paintjob and a load of bolt on goodies.
No i dont far from it. How ever i agree with rnp when it comes to renovating a land rover propperly rather than tarting it up and rolling it in glitter .
Can you just remind me who bought a land rover off photos previously and has had issues .
I see no photos of the underside anywhere on his facebook .
I couldnt give two hoots what the inside looks like.
When viewing a land rover i take a hammer to check the important parts.
Way to kick a man when he's down.
How many more posts before we start defending this Stott fella?
Got to love this place.... Or not. 😐
Im not going to defend stott. He sold a vehicle with a bent chassis and then stole it.
However some people are not suited to land rover owner ship.
Oh and if someone repeatedly tells you your are wrong for having an opinion well stone me if I don't call em like I see em.
Ivr seen photos of rnp's work and mark90 and I think v8ninetys work ...... and I'll stand for them all before I stand for a few glossy photos of the top side and interior of a land rover.
More bollocks
Can you just remind me who bought a land rover off photos previously and has had issues .
T you clearly don't know shit.
You know, besides actually carrying out similar work, knowing how long it took, knowing how much you spent and how much labour rates are and having looked at plenty of Landys beforehand. But you clearly know nothing.
MOT - you're fast losing sympathy and you're making yourself look very silly. By your own admission you know nothing, you were sold a pig in a poke and what you need to do is learn from it and hopefully get some sort of settlement. What you don't need to do is start lashing out at those who are clearly better informed in these matters than yourself. Even a dedicated restorer has turned round and told you it's commercially unviable to get the level of service you expected with reasons flying in fast why this is the case. Deal with it and stop being a prick about it.
Way to kick a man when he's down.
How many more posts before we start defending this Stott fella?
Got to love this place.... Or not.
mot356 seems to be kicking himself and no-one is defending Ryan Stott.
You cant comment with answers like that when you don't know all the story. It happened to six and more of of us we can't all be wrong. Iv'e been driving Land Rovers for over 40 years probably long before you were born.
Utter rubbish !!!Talking bollocks there lad. Take it you didn't look at the work inside the vehicle's either. Talking of paint work I'll post the video of Stott's "fancy paintwork" on mine.Do you happen to live in Bacup too ?
Regarding Outlanders stock - I see an early TDCI with a rusting crossmember thats been painted over, the photo's also dont show if its had the sump replaced, if the gearbox is okay (as early TDCI had a lot of 'box issues) or if the £1500 fuel pump is on its way out taking the injectors with it. No idea how many miles are on it either, interior has had a bit of wear.
Also painting Defenders built up is shite - they have to be stripped to individual panels and painted on a stillage like they do in the factory otherwise you end up with non matching collar & cuffs and painted over bolt heads. Like I said they cant be done properly in a commercially viable manner.
Its also a million miles away from what you originally wanted in a Defender which is a simple mechanically fuelled 300TDI hardtop then modded to look like a station wagon with central locking added. The ones listed by Outlander are mainly TDCI's - you do know the difference dont you?
Looks nice and shiny though and the 'Heritage' one looks nice with the Nakatenenga grill.
I've said it all along - Scott Ryan is a thief pure and simple, but some people make it easy for him.
How to do Defenders properly, and commercially.
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I've said it all along - Scott Ryan is a thief pure and simple, but some people make it easy for him.
Ryan Stott.
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If you want some decent defenders contact North Yorks Fire and Rescue as we're in the process of replacing ours. Not much use and plenty of services.
I'll be glad to see the back of the god awful things.
I wanted a land rover, but having asked on here and others that have owned them I bought a land cruiser instead.
😉
Fully expected to be under the bonnet every weekend with mine, fully aware of all the quirks of landrover ownership but I am not accepting one with a bent chassis especially as Ryan Stott tried to palm me off with it, he clearly knew it was no good and thought he could get away with it which it looks like he has in a round about way.
Good grief - collectively prod someone to death for updates on their story of misfortune, then patronise, mock and insult them when they do.
Great work.