[Closed] So here's the deal

funkmasterp - Member

people have moderator, still not a customer, Lazarus and reformed troll next to their name. Could we not just have Cockwomble or lacking social skills for the repeat offenders and whistle blower or telltale next to those who are over eager with the report button?

Oh you mean like how on other forums people can give you plus or minus points for good posts or bad posts ? Don't be silly.

It would be more fun to just out the worst offenders 🙂

people have moderator, still not a customer, Lazarus and reformed troll next to their name. Could we not just have Cockwomble or lacking social skills for the repeat offenders and whistle blower or telltale next to those who are over eager with the report button?

Point of order, we (moderators) have no control over that, it's done by the site owners.

Just send them a request list Cougar. Go on, you know you want to 😉

I quite like that idea from funkmaster

Can I have " angry arguolympian" please

enfht - Member

Lefties have an undeniable tendancy to live in echo chambers and it's highly amusing seeing them trigger on STW whenever they're challenged with facts over feelings, and long may this continue.

However, labelling people as 'racist' should be policed more thoroughly by STW as the accusations are baseless and without substance, something that's proved time and time again by STW not simply banning the very same posters... that is unless of course these same deluded lefties actually believe that STW tolerate racists?!? Makes you think eh.

Yeah, 'Makes me think' I'll never bother reading anything you ever post again (never noticed you before btw).

unless of course these same deluded lefties actually believe that STW tolerate racists?!?

Be careful what you wish for.

never noticed you before btw).

Typical Passive aggressive lefty

😆

[quote=funkmasterp ]Just send them a request list Cougar. Go on, you know you want to

Can I request "big hitter" (not for me obviously, but I have a list 😉 )

I got bored reading after the first few pages, but it did inspire me to look back at the amount of warnings & bans I have received since the GoFar days. Most of those threads still exist in the archives & there were some proper tools posting back then as there is now (probably me included), nothing really changes except old members stop posting & newer members take up the mantel.

It's the circle of life (for forums), but apart from the founder members (inc the one who can't be named) it was Drac that gave me my first warning as a non paid mod, god only know why he still does it, but chapeau to all those who give their time to keep this forum going, its still a great resource.

Some of us appreciate what the mods do & I would like to say thanks for doing it, this place wouldn't exist without you all 😀

I got a kicking on the last driving thread, but I’m not that bothered enough to report posters who dived in.. simply because they weren’t that offensive to me and they were wrong, obvz.

I would like to say thanks for doing it

Well, thank you.

If you could forward over your list, we lost a few records along the way. Thanks. (-:

If you could forward over your list, we lost a few records along the way. Thanks. (-:

Well I only searched the list for this user name, I obviously have had more than one (not concurrent obvs), shall I dig out the troll ones as well? 😆

Who's writing 2unfit2rides eulogy then?

LOL.

Some of us appreciate what the mods do I would like to say thanks for doing it, this place wouldn't exist without you all

Hear hear.

I've moderated a couple of fairly high-traffic boards in my time, it's not fun for long. I don't necessarily agree with every single thing some of the mods on here do and say, but I dread to think what this place would be like if they weren't doing their thing. Sincerely: thank you!

Haven't felt the need to report anything to date. Been banned once for avoiding the swear filter, was no biggie. Whether I agree with the house rules or not it's tough tits!

I know some of the threads get pretty intense for those involved. I don't know what it is, but I don't take anything on here too seriously and judging by some of the replies I get, no one takes me seriously either 😀

Jezuz if any of the hyper sensitive on here frequented DOA for example, they would be bear baited, tar and feathered within minutes. Maybe a resetting of expectations is in order 😆 It's not fair and from time to time some of you will get banned if deemed to have been a dick.

Some of us appreciate what the mods do & I would like to say thanks for doing it, this place wouldn't exist without you all

Cheers very much.

it was Drac that gave me my first warning as a non paid mod,

Was it?

I'd just like to agree with what's being said about the mods - it's a tough job which they tend just to be criticised for, and whilst I don't agree with all the modding decisions (does anybody, even the mods?) on the whole they get the balance about right.

Would you like the transcript Drac? 😉

Saying that I guess you can see what warnings/bans I have had & you know I am wrong?

Yup - I'll echo the thanks to the mods. You know what - if I had been them I would probably have banned me as well. But not now of course says he hurriedly 😉

Been banned once for avoiding the swear filter

That must've been a very long time ago or a cumulative effect. No-one gets a ban for swear filter avoidance in isolation. (Eight times out of ten I'd just edit the post unless it was blatant.)

Would you like the transcript Drac?

I’d be interested yeah.

Saying that I guess you can see what warnings/bans I have had & you know I am wrong?

I can see who issued them, users can’t.

I just had a look again, 12/2011, email was @lost****, shall I forward to that email? Just how long have you been a Mod?

Personally I think the moderation here is pretty good. It's nice to let rip sometimes and hear others let rip, it makes for a more lively forum.

But I appreciate it's a fine balance between having a boring clinical forum, and one where things can get out of hand.

I'm sure I've said a few questionable things here and there, but conversely there are those who bait, so from a mod view, it's a lot of effort to seperate the general chat from things that are genuinely inappropriate.

That must've been a very long time ago or a cumulative effect.

Yah both.

I just had a look again, 12/2011, email was @lost****, shall I forward to that email? Just how long have you been a Mod?

That’s my email?

Send it to the same email.

Hmmm! Good question About 8 years I think.

I replied, you should see the transcript,.

Ah right.

That’s not a warning really though is it, now I see it I recall it.

My bike has a Lefty. Should it be banned?

If you can see the whole convo then it includes a ban or two, but anyway, time for bed.
Thanks for what you do (and the other mods) this place only exists because of the effort of those that care & put in the effort that most wouldn't consider doing, let alone for free.
Cheers.

Don't we have unofficial mods on here or something too?

Or is that one of these in jokes I am never privy to? 😀

Don't we have unofficial mods on here or something too?

We never sleep.

CaptainFlashheart - Member
Don't we have unofficial mods on here or something too?
We never sleep.

Are you told of your new role via a cloaked messenger in the middle of the night?

Handed a sealed letter from an ashen hand.

Nope. Nothing like that.

scotroutes - Member
Nope. Nothing like that.

Ah, i was going for more drama.

Ok, an email perhaps?

Poopscoop - Member

Don't we have unofficial mods on here or something too?

real answer there are hidden mods as well as drac and cougar who are openly mods. The hidden mods didn't want the flak and I cannot blame them for it. to be a poster and an open mod is difficult and I have seen both Drac and Cougar accused of using their mod status unfairly which IMO is wrong and out of order

I think it's like child behaviour: respond positively to and encourage good behaviour, and ignore/don't react to a lot of the rest

The difference being that when it's your child you actually care about the outcome. If Jamby wants to effectively put his case across then frankly the only one who loses out when he doesn't is himself. Apart from that most of what he posts there is easily refutable and often downright lies. It's not constructive use of the forum.

Lefties have an undeniable tendancy to live in echo chambers and it's highly amusing seeing them trigger on STW whenever they're challenged with facts over feelings, and long may this continue.

However, labelling people as 'racist' should be policed more thoroughly by STW as the accusations are baseless and without substance, something that's proved time and time again by STW not simply banning the very same posters... that is unless of course these same deluded lefties actually believe that STW tolerate racists?!? Makes you think eh.

If ever there was a textbook case of triggering it would be the hissy fit a racist pulls when they're called out for being racist, often coupled with the trope of "Islam is not a race"

Just want to chime in to say I also appreciate the work that the mods do on here. I love the fact that there are hidden mods too. Drac and Cougar both do a great job in my opinion. Hats off to you fellas

tjagain - Member
Poopscoop - Member
Don't we have unofficial mods on here or something too?

real answer there are hidden mods

Hah, never knew that!

In reality I was joking. So there really are other mods it's just that we don't know them? Blimey!

I'm off to study the Illuminati infiltration in the forum again. 😉

tjagain - Member

real answer there are hidden mods as well as drac and cougar who are openly mods. The hidden mods didn't want the flak and I cannot blame them for it. to be a poster and an open mod is difficult and I have seen both Drac and Cougar accused of using their mod status unfairly which IMO is wrong and out of order

The rest of you can suck up as much as you like. It's pretty pathetic. 🙄 🙂
Drac and Cougar, no matter hard they may try to be fair, are going to be somewhat biased in the moderating decisions they make (i.e. they may be making their best judgement, but it is an individual judgement, that is not always checked by committee*, because nothing on this forum is important enough that they should go to that sort of trouble, even if they had the resources and inclination to do so). Some people are going to view this as them using their 'status'** unfairly. It is inevitable, and they have been accused of this many times.

I generally think open mods are a bad idea. It can be difficult to have discussion on a level playing field when the other person has the ability to silence you, and that ability can all too easily go to their heads! I think that lots of people are more accepting of 'shadow mods' i.e. ones where we don't know their personal bias and opinions. Of course, they may actually be much more biased and unfair, but there is less to argue against when we don't know their personal opinions! I'm also aware that beggars can't be choosers, and the people behind STW are happy to have a couple of volunteers that have the time, and inclination to do it. You would really have to love the forum, and have a lot of spare time to do it. I expect most of the good work they do is ignored, while any slight inconsistency is blown out of proportion.

*I'm aware the mods have said before that they 'double check' each others actions on occasion.

**'Burden' may be a more appropriate word than 'status'?!

I expect most of the good work they do is ignored, while any slight inconsistency is blown out of proportion.

Spot on except not really ignored just often unnoticed which in a way it should be.

So after nine pages, can we have a refresher on what the deal actually is now please?

chakaping - Member

So after nine pages, can we have a refresher on what the deal actually is now please?

I think the deal is 'try not to be a dick please'. Fat chance. 😀

The deal is a good deal in fact it's the best deal, actually it's betterer than that one.

The deal is a good deal in fact it's the best deal, actually it's betterer than that one.

I thought no deal was better than a bad deal 😉

If a bad deal is signed with invisible ink did anyone see it?

I've suggested it before and I'll suggest it again, this forum needs a proper ignore or block function, whereby anyone who annoys gets their posts removed from your feed and they are also prevented from seeing your posts.

Here you go then.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/extensions?hl=en-GB

You don't need a 'widget' to ignore someone.
Perhaps learn to engage calmly with someone who has different opinions or deliberately annoys, or just leave it and move on with your life.
Those who troll/annoy/argue incessantly are fed by those who cannot let it go, both equally bad for any thread.
I don't have a need to block anyone, and haven't argued with anyone either for these reasons, and I'd hazard a guess that's the same with most on here.

You don't need a 'widget' to ignore someone.

It's marvellous though.

Always makes me smile to go into a thread about Muslims or the EU and see the words "Jambalaya said something stupid".

Cougar - can we have that recap on what the deal is now then please?

Barkm - when you have a poster whos main aim on the forum seems to be to wind you up until you snap and somehow manages to not get banned ( permanently - has served several short bans for racist slurs and personal abuse) by keeping it just about inside the rules then a block is very handy. Constantly having to ignore personal slurs, lies, false accusations and racist slurs is pretty unpleasant. Seeing "*name redacted* said something stupid" instead is much easier

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/stw-killfile-plugin/page/2

Here you go then.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/extensions?hl=en-GB
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Thanks for the pointer - is there a chrome extension which will work both ways - i.e. the blocker and blockee will not see one another's posts?

I do think that such a system will help avoid the toxicity that's been creeping in of late.

TJ time to get the bike out 🙂 Your just winding yourself up in here, everyone knows what you mean.

I'm not wound up at all. seriously. Just killing a bit of time before the surveyor comes round.

I don't get it. If someone is trolling then blank them.

Don't call them out for it.
Don't mention them.
Don't refer to them.

Some folk are attention seeking cockwombles. [i]Any[/i] attention is a result.

is there a chrome extension which will work both ways - i.e. the blocker and blockee will not see one another's posts?

There's no way you can affect someone else's browser.

Fortunately.

There's no way you can affect someone else's browser.

Well, you could run a mountain biking website which occasionally pushes more than dubious ads to its visitors 😆

try not to be a dick please

Can we add dick to the swear filter, then my feelings won't be so hurt

We're 9 pages in, so I assume someone has pointed out this thread's descent into irony?

Sorry Dicky

Darth Cougar.....

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Jamie - Member

We're 9 pages in, so I assume someone has pointed out this thread's descent into irony?

Apparently this is a desirable feature to which every thread must aspire.

Thread rating 5.5/10

Always makes me smile to go into a thread about Muslims or the EU and see the words "Jambalaya said something stupid"

I guess that's me off on holiday for a wee while

[quote=PJM1974 ]Thanks for the pointer - is there a chrome extension which will work both ways - i.e. the blocker and blockee will not see one another's posts?

As Cougar says, it's not technically possible to do because it's an add on to your browser, effectively "reskinning" STW and adding extra functionality [s]which all decent forums have already[/s]. What you want would require re-engineering of the STW forum itself - I'm sure they'll consider it as part of the new forum which is due any time now...

I'm not sure if I've missed it, but there doesn't seem to have been a direct link to the add-on:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/singletrack-world-forum-e/cpgdlmbifgbhcoigdoeoooakijdionop?hl=en-GB

I think that's what people are using - or is there also something else? I'm fairly familiar with how that works, as whilst I didn't write the original I did the latest updates on it - I use it myself, though mainly for easy quoting rather than blocking. I'll take requests for updates (those which are technically feasible), though have to warn you that the update cycle isn't much more rapid than for the STW forum - I think it's a couple of years since I did an update and I have some things I want to add myself which haven't made much progress (mainly one which will only keep me and JY happy 😉 )

I linked above to the thread that had an stw poster on it that wrote a blocking scripot

I'm not sure if I've missed it, but there doesn't seem to have been a direct link to the add-on:

Balls, just spotted I messed up the copy & paste of the URL so my post makes no sense!

Yes you can block what you see, you can't block what others see which is what the question was about. Just because you block somebody doesn't mean they can't see what you post, this ain't facebook 😉
What you type is on the record unless a mod removes it.

I don't get it. If someone is trolling then blank them.

Don't call them out for it.
Don't mention them.
Don't refer to them.

Some folk are attention seeking cockwombles. Any attention is a result.

+1

If ever there was a textbook case of triggering it would be the hissy fit a racist pulls when they're called out for being racist, often coupled with the trope of "Islam is not a race"

Where are all these racists of which you speak, zokes? I've not seen any on STW. Please report any you find and allow STW to ban them.

Oh, and islam is definitely not a race. It's not something you're born with, it's not genetic, some call it a belief system, others call it a religion, others call it a death cult. Take your pick treacle. 8)

enfht - Member

Oh, and islam is definitely not a race. It's not something you're born with, it's not genetic, some call it a belief system, others call it a religion, others call it a death cult. Take your pick treacle.

Why don't you tell us of your black and muslim friends enfht? 😆

Please report any you find and allow STW to ban them.

I think it's safest to keep you here...we all know what you're like. Let's just call it your safe space, snowflake. Are you all done for attention today or would you like a little more?

I think it's safest to keep you here...we all know what you're like. Let's just call it your safe space, snowflake. Are you all done for attention today or would you like a little more?

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legal definition of racism includes islamophobia.

During my time on here I have seen bans for racist postings.

Irrespective of TJ's legal definitions; he might be right you know, strictly speaking it isn't a race and therefore intolerance against all muslims because of the actions of a tiny minority might not strictly be racism. But in the absence of an obvious different word i think we can still see why it's used.

Maybe bigot? Is that preferable to the [s]racists[/s] bigots?

Either way - not a label i'd like to carry.

I have seen bans for racist postings.

Had one of those myself. 🙂

tjagain - Member

Barkm - when you have a poster whos main aim on the forum seems to be to wind you up

Considering that you can't read his posts (unless quoted, I know) and haven't been able to for some time and he knows this, isn't it more of a wind up for you to keep reminding him (for he can read your posts) that you block his posts?

I doubt there are many chat forum users that aren't aware you block him, or that Edukator has mechanophilic feelings towards his Renault or that binners loves Greggs, for example. 😉

During my time on here I have seen bans for racist postings.

You’ ve never mentioned it.

If we get one more reported post of someone being a bellend on these threads, irrespective of who's guilty or innocent I'll blanket ban all the big hitter parties for a month and to hell with collateral damage.

Are we clear?

Can I have an up to date list of Big Hitters before I report something please?