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[url= http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/movie-star-vs-gossip-girl-now-looks-whos-rusty/story-e6freuy9-1225769326285 ]Russell Crowe challenges journo to race[/url]


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 10:20 am
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Loving the skip hat under helmet look 😆


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 12:09 pm
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Cippolini loled


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 12:20 pm
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20km at an avg speed of 15km/h.
Says it all really...


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 12:41 pm
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20km at an avg speed of 15km/h.

lol

Crowe looks to be a bit of a porker in those photos too.


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 1:23 pm
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Tsk. Smoking's good for you. Everyone knows that


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 1:28 pm
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All the gear no ideas 😉


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 1:30 pm
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It sounds like a nice gentle ride at this speed. If the fatman comes down here I'll race him.


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 2:17 pm
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20km at an avg speed of 15km/h.
Says it all really...

😯

a vast section of the population would be pretty happy with that.

It's better than to maccy D's and back at an average speed of 2 mph


 
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I'll race him sans bike!


 
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a vast section of the population would be pretty happy with that.

12.5 miles at 9mph? I've a couple of 65 year old relatives who could happily manage that. Are you talking about the pension-drawing section?


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 2:54 pm
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no the fat layabout section


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 2:59 pm
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12.5 miles at 9mph?

Most of us can (hopefully) manage that sort of average on a piece of technical singletrack, never mind on a road!


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 3:00 pm
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you think the readership of this forum is representative of the fitness of the nation as a whole?


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 3:03 pm
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No, but I'd say the majority on this forum (despite thinking it) are not far from average. I know I'm not!


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 3:05 pm
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average cyclists yes, average fitness outside the middle classes no

Fitness levels among Britons have reached an all-time low, according to a survey.The poll shows that 53% of people cannot touch their toes and 68% are not able to manage 20 sit-ups

[url= http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sky-News-Archive/Article/20080641285881 ]source[/url]


 
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Fitness levels among Britons have reached an all-time low, according to a survey.The poll shows that 53% of people cannot touch their toes and 68% are not able to manage 20 sit-ups

I can't touch my toes and haven't tried to do sit-ups for years.


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 3:12 pm
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But he was trying to show that actually he is dead fit, even though he smokes. Which he clearly isn't.


 
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you can't touch your toes because like the rest of us you are such an awesome cyclist that your hamstrings are 3mm long at there most stretched

He's a fat smoking Aussie, maybe he is fit for one of them 🙂


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 3:15 pm
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Thanks mike for bringing the point back to the conversation 🙂


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 3:15 pm
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oh and i'm fit and I smoke, i'm just less fit than if i didn't smoke 😉


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 3:17 pm
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I've never been able to touch my toes, since I was about 5. I thnk the hamstrings point is valid.


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 3:48 pm
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i smoke and im quite fit.

i can still pass all my army fitness tests easy. i wish i could stop but i know its not that easy (been there done it. dont want any more advice thanks)

i find my self fitter than some of my non-smoking mates


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 3:55 pm
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You're probably fitter than I am too. I think the journo was just pointing out the apparent paradox of doing someting that keeps you fit along with something that kills you.


 
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that's a whole kettle of fish right there, if you could solve that little conundrum i think you'd probably be Buddha


 
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i'll usually have a smoke half way round on a ride. don't smoke ciggies, mind.

it's people like that who have a decent bike and just potter around town that really piss me off. some bloke stepped onto the train the other week with some Cube, Fox wot-not with 100-140mm travel, XTR, carbon bits and tubeless tyres pumped up to 60-odd psi. cycle jersey, camelbak, SIDI shoes (but flat plastic pedals), giro lid, oakley sunnies.

asked him where he was riding to. along the cycle path back the way he'd just come on the train.

what a prick. what a waste of bike.

i know that it is upto them if they want to spend all that cash and look the part (read buying into a lifestyle) but it ****s me off.


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 4:18 pm
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I can't touch my toes

I can touch my knuckles to the floor - perhaps I have unnaturally long arms 🙂


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 4:19 pm
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aren't you really hairy as well?

missing link?


 
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asked him where he was riding to. along the cycle path back the way he'd just come on the train.

what a prick. what a waste of bike.

But perhaps he does do longer rides too, but he was just getting some training in? I ride to work on the same bike(s) and in the same stuff I ride anywhere in.


 
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nah, unfortunately you see it lots here in germany.

everyone wants everyone else to think there the dogs testicles. just look at the amount of big **** off useless cars there are.

mate at the bike shop sorted some guy out with a 'bespoke' 6000€ Liteville. met the guy a few days later in all his get up and asked if he wanted to ride with us. if i hadn't seen him ride i'd have thought "wow you must be shit-hot to be riding a bike kitted out like that!". as it was i'd guess he'd only learnt to ride a bike the previous week. what a nonce.

pisses me off. i'm not jealous as i have my bikes (that i can ride well, and do). it's more that if you enjoy riding you'll work your way up, not just buy the 'best' bike available because you've got lots of money.

prehaps its a showy german thing. the GF old man tell me how his 10 year old bike still works like new and that my bike breaks. try telling him it's because he never rides the sodding thing over a kerb let alone 3ft drops.


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 4:28 pm
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is it not you that is the fool for thinking that because he has the kit he must be good? 😉


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 4:30 pm
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Alpin - fair enough but I was just offering a consideration.

Anyway - it is good stuff - I got my present bike after some fat tyre fitter bought it (Specialized Enduro Pro), rode it once on a tow path then sold it to me for less than half price. It still had reflectors on the wheels. I called the shop he claimed to have bought it from (to check it wasn't stolen) and they quickly remembered this fat bloke with no idea coming in and spending so much on a bike when he clearly had no clue.

🙂


 
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is it not you that is the fool for thinking that because he has the kit he must be good?

no.... or maybe, but no.

because of this german attitude that everything MUST be the best you get to see lots of old school retro bikes in really good nick full of old XTR, raceface, syncros etc.


 
Posted : 04/09/2009 4:40 pm
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LOL For all the millions Russell Crowe has made in all his films I don't think splashing out a few grand on a bike is going to concern him to much. Fair play to him he's out enjoying himself.


 
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"pisses me off. i'm not jealous "

I think you need to chill out and find something more important to be pissed off about....

Germans love good technology, have money, like big/fast cars and need status symbols etc - its the way they are ( I am half german and lived there many years), if they weren't this way they wouldn't build such stonking cars...

tschuss kumpel


 
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Smoker and fit? Not for long I'm afraid 🙂

I've been round long enough to see many of my "fit smoker" mates die off - usually in unpleasant ways - or have to give up exercise - "don't have the legs for it anymore".

A long time ago, having a cigarette was regarded as beneficial for training. I'm sure I've seen it in some 1900s mags. Possibly a bit like an altitude tent maybe - a spot of oxygen deprivation?


 
Posted : 05/09/2009 2:56 am
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Woolloomooloo ! 😯


 
Posted : 05/09/2009 6:53 am
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I can touch my knuckles to the floor - perhaps I have unnaturally long arms

Or unnaturally short legs.


 
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Smoker and fit? Not for long I'm afraid

I've been round long enough to see many of my "fit smoker" mates die off - usually in unpleasant ways - or have to give up exercise - "don't have the legs for it anymore".

Too true 🙁

Cycling will not offset the smoking-related increase in mouth, throat, lung, stomach, pancreatic and bladder cancer (think I've got most of them right there).

...enjoy 🙂


 
Posted : 05/09/2009 8:36 am
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i wish i could stop but i know its not that easy (been there done it. dont want any more advice thanks)

that's the spirit. 😥


 
Posted : 05/09/2009 9:04 am
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Do you look really stupid if you buy a Ferrari when you're not an F1 driver? What is the big problem with beginners owning nice bikes if they can afford it? I mean there are enough people on here spending £1k on a road bike when they've clearly never ridden one before, probably aren't getting an efficient road position, and a £500 one would do fine.

Meanwhile did anybody actually bother to read that story? They were doing lots of climb, some off-road, and Crowe was having to wait for the journo.


 
Posted : 05/09/2009 9:57 am
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I've got a lot of time for Crowe - likes his beer and his rugby and probably has lots of normal mates. But I don't get this thing about average riders having nice bikes. WGAS? That's the lamest sort of snobbery. Biking isn't a secret society where you have to be approved before you turn a pedal. It's just riding bicycles in the countryside.


 
Posted : 05/09/2009 10:38 am
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I smoke and can run a sub 45min 10k, wonder if Crowe can ?


 
Posted : 05/09/2009 11:55 am
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I don't smoke and can run one far faster than that. Then again my mate who smokes is also rather quicker than me (he gets top 5 results in running races)!


 
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"He's a fat smoking Aussie, maybe he is fit for one of them"
He's a ****ing kiwi thank you very much :wink:(oz has just adopted him)
smoking kills buy the way


 
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I mean there are enough people on here spending £1k on a road bike when they've clearly never ridden one before, probably aren't getting an efficient road position, and a £500 one would do fine.

£1500 actually 😳

In my defence, I did have a flat bar thingy for a year before. And I'd done about 50 miles on drops with a borrowed bike. Bike shop sorted out the position for me, although it ****ing hurt for a while, so many muscles you don't use on an MTB. I agree with you in that you can ride whatever you want, but it does annoy if a bike's not used for it's intended purpose. I sorted out a spesh epic for a mate a few years back, and he only uses it for commuting 🙄


 
Posted : 06/09/2009 6:18 am
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I splashed out on my first road bike this year, £30 and a tenner for a set of pedals from a mate!

I have seen Russell Crowe in the pool at a hotel this year too, he also wears those dumb running shoes with springs in!


 
Posted : 06/09/2009 9:27 am
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i really dont get this.. It always baffles me when i see someone smoking a cigarette at a bike race.

Its a bit like going on a hard bike ride, then getting back to the car and stuffing your face with a KFC... ( which i have done once or twice. 🙁 , but it is certainly not a habit)...


 
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Do you look really stupid if you buy a Ferrari when you're not an F1 driver?

But if you only ever used that Ferrari to go shopping then that's a waste of a good car........


 
Posted : 06/09/2009 11:52 am
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I quite like his bike irrespective of his fitness.

I think cycling can stop your lungs from getting too clogged up if you smoke (but not the chemicals from doing you harm), because I used to smoke and still cycled about all the time, and since i've quit my lungs don't feel as good as they used to before I started, but they don't feel really bad either, though I never smoked an awfull lot.

Tobacco companies are nearly as bad as arms traders imo, the main difference being that smokers mostly kill themselves instead of other people.

Tim


 
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In my defence I started smoking in my teens and unfortunately gave into peer pressure, which I think can be almost subliminal when you're young, was a silly thing to do.

Vitamin C is supposed to be good for lungs for any smokers reading this, and it probably need's topping up anyway if you smoke.


 
Posted : 06/09/2009 4:52 pm