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 dazh
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Why have you closed the other thread? The subject of moderation policy is still a live one, or is that something we're not allowed to talk about too? Can someone please be clear about why any mention of the middle east is banned (and why similar subjects such as Ukraine are not)? How is it possible to talk about Keir Starmer without mentioning the single biggest thing that's going on with him right now?

The problem with banning certain subjects and pretending they don't exist is that they will inevitably crop up elsewhere as these sort of things are massively interconnected with lots of other stuff going on. Good luck with micro-managing the forum content. I would recruit some more mods if I were you, think you'll be busy. 🤔


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 1:25 pm
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Give it a rest.

Go and discuss in the relevant thread on the Middle East, your thread was closed as you got an answer. Don’t like it then you can go elsewhere, I can assist with that.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 1:31 pm
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I would recruit some more mods if I were you, think you’ll be busy. 🤔

Maybe you should volunteer....you seem to be here 24/7.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 1:34 pm
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Dazh - you forget this is a private playground and what they want goes.  Its not a democracy.

These threads often turn really angry and lead to a lot of extra work for unpaid volunteer mods.  Given how the middle east thread went I am not suprised they took this stance.  Indeed I am suprised it was not taken sooner as offensive and libelous statements were being made

You have a choice - follow the rules or leave.  Or I guess keep on shouting until you are banned

You could make me a mod.  I am a very moderate man after all 🙂


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 1:34 pm
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 dazh
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Don’t like it then you can go elsewhere

I have no problem if you guys want a policy of no politics etc, just be clear about it and add it to the terms and conditions then we all know what the score is and can make clear decisions.

BTW is there a magazine-only subscription?


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 1:55 pm
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These threads often turn really angry

Yup, no doubt about it, but it was not really the case when this thread was closed was it?

Keir Starmer is facing his greatest crisis since this thread was first started and yet we can only talk about Starmer as long as we don't mention the cause of this crisis.

I did originally think angry punters was the reason for silencing the Gaza debate but it doesn't appear to be that, which is why I am leaning more and more to the commercial interests/fear of hacking option.

Which to be fair is more understandable, and more acceptable, than being motivated by a need to have only political threads where everyone agrees.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 1:55 pm
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So?, Kier Starmer............he's a tea drinker and objects to coffee drinkers - is he right?


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 2:18 pm
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So?, Kier Starmer…………he’s a tea drinker and objects to coffee drinkers – is he right?

Thats what the focus group told him to say so sure.
Dont worry though since he has adopted the tories habit of rapid u-turns along with their policies I am sure he will change soon.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 2:28 pm
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#Pray for coffee drinkers


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 2:34 pm
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Did you hear that Starmer has withdrawn the Labour whip from Andy McDonald?

I think it was because McDonald said that proper men drink proper coffee.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 2:35 pm
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According the latest polling Starmer is clearly in the wrong and needs to change tact over his stance

[I]The Statista Global Consumer Survey found that 63% of Britons drink coffee regularly, while only 59% regularly drink tea, according to The Times. Coffee is the most popular drink worldwide, with around two billion cups consumed every day, according to the British Coffee Association.[/I]

Obviously we need to hear from the tea drinkers association but I consider this a damning indictment of Starmers position


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 2:42 pm
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I consider this a damning indictment of Starmers position

Don’t worry, he’ll have changed it by tomorrow.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 2:49 pm
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Who would we prefer as leader of the Labour party?
I could only point out Milliband and Raynor in a photo the rest are a mystery to me.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 2:56 pm
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Two Labour council leaders have called for Starmee to resign over his position on coffee. Personally, I will be quizzing any canvassers who appear on my doorstep on how they can justify it to themselves. I could never vote for a Labour Party led by someone with his position.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 2:59 pm
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At the risk of being relevant, perhaps Andy Burnham?

Keir Starmer is now the turd that refuses to flush


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:00 pm
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Ange.
Andy Burnham.
Clive Lewis.
Lisa Nandy.
Mick Lynch.
The ghost of Joe Strummer.
A small plasticene rhinoceros called Emily.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:05 pm
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Oh, all coffee drinkers should be sent to teaeducation centres and threatened with their own grinders until they are ready to be reintroduced into a decent, tea centric society.

A multibeverage society is doomed to failure, with a possible exception of Vimto for children and those unable to boil a kettle.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:12 pm
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I think this is a storm in a tea cup. Put it this way, there's no way any Tory is going to harangue Starmer for his position, the only people that will, are the usual fruit bats that would rather run the risk of another Tory Govt because of one issue.

Quite frankly the Canteen is a mess and on this latest issue there are no winners, you either say that mass tea drinking is fine or that drinking coffee in civilian areas is (yes I know the history).

Is it fair to tar and feather Starmer on this matter, absolutely not. He's in a tricky space with this and if he appears to be at all sympathising with CoffeeMate, then the press will launch at him with full barrells as they will finally have a hook.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:12 pm
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Grim. Mods?


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:15 pm
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Grim. Mods?

I imagine the mods are primarily coffee drinkers so this discussion will run and run, next question - Is caffeine a true diuretic?


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:18 pm
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Two Labour council leaders have called for Starmee to resign over his position on coffee.

It should be remembered that all proper tea is theft.

Unless it is a land-grab.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:22 pm
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Is caffeine a true diuretic?

Straw coloured man?


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:24 pm
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So?, Kier Starmer…………he’s a tea drinker and objects to coffee drinkers – is he right?

Inside a British Army tank [fixed] 6a51U


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:25 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/24/yorkshire-tea-calls-truce-rishi-sunak-tweet-abuse/blockquote >

Just shows how **** ridiculous you obsessed political types are.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:35 pm
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This thread is getting ridiculous. We must debate the real issue here. Tea or milk first?


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:39 pm
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Depends. It tastes different.

However.......you can make a tea first brew taste like a milk first brew by allowing it to cool then microwaving it back to full temp.

True fact.

Starmer prefers Ovaltine, btw.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 3:46 pm
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All tea should be drunk without milk - or sugar.
Can't see sunak drinking anything but Charbonnel et Walker hot chocolate.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 4:00 pm
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Deleted, possibly a tad harsh. 🙂


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 4:08 pm
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However…….you can make a tea first brew taste like a milk first brew by allowing it to cool then microwaving it back to full temp.

You savage


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 4:18 pm
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This thread is getting ridiculous. We must debate the real issue here. Tea or milk first?

Surely the real issue is WHAT BISCUITS??


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 4:19 pm
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I do these things so you don't have to.
Think about it as a public service.

As for biscuits, we need to tax the Rich Tea until they crumble and nationalise the Custard Cream.
And Oreos can piss off back to America where they belong.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 4:21 pm
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RichTea sunak.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 4:51 pm
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That picture of Sunak, thats an individually wrapped Yorkshire tea bag, it just goes to show how small Sunak is.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 4:55 pm
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I could only point out Milliband and Raynor in a photo the rest are a mystery to me.

How about both? That would be a great combination.

But…

1) there is no way Labour will change leader before the next election (I wish they would, but they won’t)
2) both have seen up close just how ridiculously hard the job of Labour leader is… it destroys you


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 5:19 pm
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Dear god I'm starting to think this forum is inhabited by 13 year olds who think they're oh so clever.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 6:56 pm
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 dazh
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Dear god I’m starting to think this forum is inhabited by 13 year olds who think they’re oh so clever.

That’s what happens when adults aren’t allowed to behave like grownups. Stayed out of it as the subject is too serious for childish metaphors. If however the mods want to review their policy maybe the childish shite will stop.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 7:26 pm
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You can "behave like an adult" anywhere you like except on a private forum. If you don't like the rules go somewhere else. Personally i think this place would be a healthier place if some of the self appointed political "big hitters" buggered off.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 8:06 pm
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That’s what happens when adults aren’t allowed to behave like grownups

Well no, IIRC the original thread was closed after adults were very much not behaving like grownups. I've been critical in the past of moderation here, but they can't win this one.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 8:07 pm
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“big hitters”

giggles


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 8:10 pm
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giggles

Trust me, was being ironic.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 8:11 pm
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This thread is getting ridiculous. We must debate the real issue here. Tea or milk first?

Coffee, problem solved.
Now jam or cream first is the real issue (well its not. the cream first lot are simply wrong and deluded).

you can make a tea first brew taste like a milk first brew by allowing it to cool then microwaving it back to full temp.

I knew someone who claimed they could taste if water had been reboiled and so demanded the kettle be emptied and refilled each time.
After carrying out several scientific experiments I am confident they couldnt though.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 8:37 pm
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It was closed because...

This is the Starmer thread, for talking about Starmer. If you want to talk about other threads you could try starting a new thread, but that didn't go well when you did it earlier so maybe take the hint.


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 8:56 pm
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its not self defeating.  I see no reason why volunteer mods should have to spend loads of time cleaning up angry rows<br /><br />Still It will all settle out when the banhammer arrives


 
Posted : 04/11/2023 8:59 pm
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This is the Starmer thread, for talking abou Starmer.

Wasn’t me who brought up the other thread. Have a word with ransos if it bothers you that much.


 
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