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We’d never have guessed.
Well I expect a better Labour leader Kelvin.
Simple as that.
Likewise don't think you're ever going to acknowledge the right-wing trajectory.
But then it's always totally been okay to take the safe position the Tories are shit, and that can be repeated forever on here without comment.
Labour have no control over when an election is held
So why make such a lame pointlessly stupid official comment?
Starmer almost done with making himself unpopular in the process of getting the public to trust Labour again across all policy areas, rather than just the ones Labour tend to lead on by default
Done with making himself unpopular to get the public to trust Labour again!
The logic in that.
You know what talking to Labour door knockers last week - councillor said people around here (Bassetlaw)still have sympathy with Johnson.
Either way May will be interesting.
Likewise don’t think you’re ever going to acknowledge the right-wing trajectory.
Of course I am. Labour will fight the next election on a platform less left wing than in 2019. Obviously.
Starmer's ambiguity towards the trans question reflects I think the majority of the populations view in that it's complicated.
30p Lee has already made it clear that the government is going to fight the next election on a culture war footing and cited the trans issue as the main target this time round.
If that's the ground the Tories want to fight the next election on then Starmer would be daft to respond, so being a bit muddled on that issue might not be a bad strategy.
The Tories will likely do all they can to pin Labour to a specific trans rights position so they can attack them for it and make the next election all about that. The small boats thing will be yesterdays news in a years time so they'll need a new target to scapegoat, Labour would do better to deflect the question back to issues like the economy.
The Tories want to fight the election on the traditional Labour ground of social justice.
Labour in turn should fight the election on traditional Conservative ground of economic competence.
Of course I am. Labour will fight the next election on a platform less left wing than in 2019. Obviously.
Obvious now, but only because Starmer has u-turned on the commitments he made when campaigning to leader. There was nothing particularly left wing about the 2019 manifesto.
Er, obvious to anyone from Friday 15th December 2019… at the latest.
The 2019 (and 2017) manifestos were right up my street, but I know this country well enough to know they weren’t going to be voted for and implemented. If you’re left wing, you have two choices… keep telling everyone in England that they should be as well, or offer them a compromise they will accept that moves the government of the country to the left. Repeating 2019 was never going to be on the cards for whoever leads the party into the next election, well before the leadership race began, never mind when Starmer took the lead and eventual win.
Er, obvious to anyone from Friday 15th December 2019… at the latest.
So you believed at the time that Starmer's leadership manifesto was a lie? I'm sure you must've said so on this thread.
I believed he, or his successor, would go into the next election on a ticket that was less left wing than Corbyn did in 2019. Obviously. Who thought otherwise? Yet another election defeat would have destroyed the party and gifted the Tories another 15 years in power. And will if he fails, which he could still do. He has little campaigning skills, and an inability to connect to voters when he speaks. I still fear that once an election campaign is under way, he’ll come close to throwing away the lead Labour now has, and a loss is still possible. I hope not, of course. Others seem to be wishing for failure…
I believed he, or his successor, would go into the next election on a ticket that was less left wing than Corbyn did in 2019.
So you believed his leadership manifesto was lie. Could you point to where you said so?
I took his leadership bid to mean that he would be less left wing than Long Bailey, and Corbyn, which is what the majority of members must have also wanted. They had Long Bailey to vote for (and I think she came across well in her campaign as it happens, but wasn’t offering the change needed). I agree he has moved policy more rightwards than he looked like would when trying to get the votes of members three years ago. Call that a lie if you want.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51077811
However, Sir Keir said he would not "trash" the Labour governments of Tony Blair or Gordon Brown, or the previous leadership of Mr Corbyn. He said there had been "many important moves" made.
"Jeremy Corbyn was right to make us the party to fight austerity," Sir Keir said. "We build on that, we don't trash it going forward."
He said Labour should treat the 2017 manifesto as its foundation going forward, saying the next manifesto must "give hope to people that the next 20 years can be better with a Labour government".
Starmer was elected leader of the Labour Party on the basis of what he said during the leadership contest.
Before he was elected Leader he said that he would not not trash the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn, in the last three years since being elected he has increasingly trashed the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn.
He was elected because people believed what he said, including his "My pledges to you".
We now know that they were wrong to believe him because he was lying.
Edit: And here is a reminder of what "My pledges to you" were:
https://keirstarmer.com/plans/10-pledges/
I'm going to vote for a party who wants better intergration with the EU, and ultimatley, re-join.
I'm also going to vote for a party who will put PR to a referendum (a fair and legally binding one, this time, not some bullshit halfway house that's open to interpretation a-la the conservatives brexit travesty).
So there's only one party I can vote for, and that's the liberal Democrats.
Of course I am. Labour will fight the next election on a platform less left wing than in 2019. Obviously.
Less left-wing still doesn't properly acknowledge what we have going on here.
If that’s the ground the Tories want to fight the next election on then Starmer would be daft to respond, so being a bit muddled on that issue might not be a bad strategy.
Not fighting back against a false narrative just allows it to become the "established truth" in peoples minds. They have to be careful how they fight it, but it must be challenged.
Don't voters like a bit of “constructive ambiguity”?
Well, that made me laugh! Point well made Ernie. And so succinctly.
So on call Sir Tory Starmer LBC this morning Sir said - no water nationalisation because of Government AFFORDABILITY - (let the public pay for it then hun?).
He's pretending yet again money is the issue and it is finite. FFS the governmennt owns the BoE. Does he realise how much damage he is doing to society by pretending we can't afford things?
He's built his whole fake campaign model on attacking the Tories on competence rather than better progressive ideas.
For those at the back government finances work like this:
Government has the power of the purse and decides what gets spent.
The Treasury asks the government departments what they need to spend in the financial year.
This becomes the Supply Estimates document.
Submitted to Parliament for approval.
Not debated.
This becomes the Appropriations Act.
Invoices go to Treasury - they're checked to be valid.
Treasury instructs the BoE to pay them.
There is no legal mechanism at this point for the BoE to not pay.
Accounts are marked up and money is made available/created.
Taxation is not part of the payment process. It is not collected to be spent. It is deleted frome existence.
And yeah now I have a formal certificate in MMT / macro - University of Newcastle - Australia (cos there are very few providers currently) - just in case that gets asked again.
Have you got a link to what Starmer actually said? I can't find anything.
And yeah now I have a formal certificate in MMT / macro – University of Newcastle – Australia (cos there are very few providers currently) – just in case that gets asked again.
Congratulations. Have you cottoned on to the fact that educating the whole UK population as regards MMT and allaying their concerns about things actually costing something by the time we have a general election (this year or next) is impossible? Your constant and repeated efforts to inform Singletrack forum members are nothing as to the uphill battle with the population as a whole. "Labour will spend us into chaos" is the line that needs countering by front bench politicians if they want a Labour government. And that's what they'll stick with for at least the next few years when explaining their policies. They will spend more on the right things, but the "we can spend as much as we want" line leads straight to an election loss.
I think the way labour need to phrase spending plans is as investment
Investment in things that will generate returns in the future
It will still be portrayed as reckless socialism bankrupting the country, but you'd hope after 13 years of austerity the public would see through that
Voters will only see through the austerity myth, if someone makes an alternative argument. Making the same economic arguments as the tories, even when the evidence points at their failures just reinforces their lies about the economy.
IMO just winning the next election by being less worse than the tories will not last and will not lead to successive victories.
Voters will only see through the austerity myth, if someone makes an alternative argument.
Which presumably why Starmer said:
“Jeremy Corbyn was right to make us the party to fight austerity”
I took his leadership bid to mean that he would be less left wing than Long Bailey, and Corbyn, which is what the majority of members must have also wanted.
Only if they (and you) believed that his election manifesto was a lie. Did you?
“Labour will spend us into chaos” is the line that needs countering by front bench politicians
That will be done irrespective. It was done under Corbyn's costed manifestos.
The damage is all around from The current economic model and its descriptions. If they are offering the best value of what is achievable then we may as well all pack up and go home.
I don't believe for one second there aren't stronger arguments to be made against right-wing economics. And I don't believe the public are that stupid too that they are now doing badly because of this.
All Starmer is doing is reinforcing the narrative of lack of money. I don't see how that gets us closer to any objective other than Neoliberalism.
It's like your defence is built upon the fact he's going to pull out some amazing ideas once in power.
I don't believe it for a second.
I know there are hurdles. But we will never change anything if you don't keep pushing back. The government allows the markets to exist and they should serve us not dictate policy to us. The Government has all the control it needs they simply need to exercise it.
There will be an inflationary argument but look at how out of control that is now - built on years of neglect through not spending the investment on our own energy.
Look where the bullshit path has led us.
@ernielynch it's on LBC catch up. Ferrari this morning. End of his session.
If we have one massive problem, and it's not just economic - I could see it with COVID - that is the right normalise poor outcomes.
It's now become normal that our energy prices are so high. I mean look at what they are now compared to last year when there was a load of screaming. Same with interest rates.
We quickly accept poor standards in this country.
He's losing the Guardian. Quite an achievement!
Yeah I saw that.
Comments are pretty damning too.
Ooh that amazing mystical centre ground that Liberals love - turns out to be within an inch of right-wing consequences.
Brexit
Migrant red wall synch
Anti Nationalisation
Pro Market
Lack of striking worker support
Fiscal balancing lies
Even James O'Brien was saying there wasn't much on offer from Labour.
Centrist group hug.
I think this is why both parties a keen on being on opposite sides of the culture war, with barely a paper between them on economic policies, the culture war is the pretense of difference.
I thought this comment was excellent.
"The problem is that the wing of the party Starmer represents HAS no vision, no will for change. Centrism is the conservatism of the managerial class, the political philosophy that things that the status quo would be perfect if it was just the 'right' people in charge of it.Note how everything Starmer condemns the Tories on isn't based on decency, morality or even a basic concept of the law, but instead on 'competence'. The message is 'we have no issue with the premise, we just think you're bad at doing it'.
Guess what? The current policy direction IS the problem. You can't fix the damage decades of supply-side economics has done by just doing it with less stupidity, but that is exactly what Starmer is trying to do. Except he isn't even being particularly honest about that as he tries to say whatever line will appeal to the soft-tory vote this week. He moves from position to position as he tries not to lose the interests of those who's material interests are not aligned with the majority of the population, but all that does is allow him to concede more and more ground and when people tell him he's being led by the nose he drives them from the party."
& that is being kind!
The message is ‘we have no issue with the premise, we just think you’re bad at doing it’.
I think that one sentence sums it up nicely.
And to be fair I am sure it is an attitude which appeals to a lot of people.
I keep hoping to see more from him than tory turd polishing, and keep being disappointed.
Currently this is his optimistic side, in office we'll be told 'it's going to be tough' (ie more austerity) and 'we can't afford it'. We've been told by Reeves they're the party of business, Streeting has already talked of more privatisation plans for the NHS and Starmer has parachuted in a private healthcare provider to replace Corbyn in Islington North. They're making it pretty clear what's on offer and if you don't like 'My Labour Party', there's the door.
So there's a choice with the NHS isn't there that no current party will ever make.
Force the private element temporarily to take NHS backlogs (backlogs created by the private sector anyway in part - by sucking staff and resources.) No queue jumpers with cash. Now I know this is what Streeting is talking about I think but I'm pretty sure that's more about tickling the accounts of private coffers. But short term it's likely an idea
Or Force the private element out of business and expand the state. I mean it's a marginal market so if the private sector can't compete with the government to deliver - off it should trot.
Pretending there is another way is just ridiculous because the same pool of labour is available to the government to bear the cost if it chooses too.
We don't need a market for it.
Harsh reality. But let's stop cutting up resources for the private sector in health. It only benefits the wealthy and creates supply shocks.
Worth a squiz
Dull as dishwasher he may be but the previous Labour leader had a vision for Britain and failed twice.
Kind of leaves Laboir in a bind because as much as the public would like a leader with vision, what they probably really want is somebody with a scintilla of competence.
His hands are tied with regards Europe as well, what's there to campaign on? Rejoin?, broker a better deal with Europe?
The public knows that Europe is breaking our balls post Brexit, if only for the fun of it and are likely to be far more conciliatory with a Labour government who hasn't spent the last decade demonizing them and blaming them for all our own shortcomings.
I think a lot of the red wall Labour supporters are gone and nothing Labour could do will appease them, they have exposed themselves as being nationalists. Labour are better off going for Tory voters who are disgusted with the current government rather than ex Labour voters who think Boris Johnson was hard done by and that JRM is a man of the people.
"Nothing scares the Establishment more than losing control of the narrative" that ^^ video claims. Truer words have never been spoken.
We all know where we are.
We all have ideas about where we want to be.
We all know that some sort of change is needed if we are to improve anything.
If the change we bring about is not the change we need, the answer will not be less change.
We need to start somewhere.
If the change we bring about is not the change we need, the answer will not be less change.
I don't understand this idea, people are painting their own hopes onto the bland canvas that SKS is presenting. There is absolutely no ****ing evidence that he would lead the party down a more progressive path once in power. In fact all he has demonstrated since becoming labour leader is that he will renege on progressive policy promises, and that he is rather authoritarian in removing progressive voices from the party.
Of course he won't change if elected. The only difference in having Starmer Labour Party in power is they won't do as much crap as the tory party has over last 12 years. If won't be drastically better but it won't be as bad.
Given Labour are the only party that has any chance of winning that is all we have got. What else does anyone suggest, and don't tell me I should start a revolution.
What a depressing video that was. My mate is standing as a Labour councillor in the May elections and he just won’t admit there’s a problem with Starmer. Burying his head in the sand chanting ’get behind the team, we need the tories out’. He can’t see any further than that. Very sad 😢
I don’t understand this idea, people are painting their own hopes onto the bland canvas that SKS is presentin
Well exactly.
He's going to want to maintain power so he's going to carry on with the same trajectory.
I don't understand why folk don't learn he's a bloody devious liar - who will mish mash up anything to get to the top.
This totally invalidates his position as a decent leader, especially of a so called progressive party.
His personal ratings are hardly great.
If starmer is found with his knob in a pig who would we like to replace him?
What a depressing video that was. My mate is standing as a Labour councillor in the May elections and he just won’t admit there’s a problem with Starmer. Burying his head in the sand chanting ’get behind the team, we need the tories out’. He can’t see any further than that. Very sad
Our councillor admitted on the door step she wasn't a fan of Starmer - but she said she had no choice as there was still sympathy with Johnson around here.
That could be rectified if Starmer pushed back against a whole load of regressive right-wing policy that has been brought about in the last couple of years.
Dull as dishwasher he may be but the previous Labour leader had a vision for Britain and failed twice
That was of its time and set against Brexit there were no easy solutions.
Now would be very different if a vision was offered up.
There was still strong faith in the Tory party back then for some godforsaken reason.
What else does anyone suggest, and don’t tell me I should start a revolution.
Wait it out until the country demands better from someone.
Or Starmer is removed.
Neither are definite solutions but people need to see things are so bad to demand better. There's just enough people doing okay to not worry about stuff at the minute. Which does suprise me.
’get behind the team, we need the tories out’
I think that's the only strong card SKS has. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to support.
Given Labour are the only party that has any chance of winning that is all we have got. What else does anyone suggest, and don’t tell me I should start a revolution.
Radical, I know, but as I keep saying (and keep getting ignored) maybe try voting for who you actually want. If you're only arguing about the seasoning on your shit sandwich then why not vote for something else?
It will take time but it's worked in Scotland.
I remember Ed Miliband’s election. Our local Labour candidate seemed dull, non-interventional and avoided committing to anything not in the minimal headlines given them by the leadership. Those included “controls on immigration” and other snippy lines designed to reassure people other than me. I voted LibDem… our Tory MP got to carry on. I’ve read and heard a lot from Miliband since (and from the guy who was the candidate here) and I have no doubt whatsoever the UK would have been a better place with them in roles rather than the Tories we’ve had. So, not only voting Labour in this seat, but joined and leaflet dropping for them. 2019 & 2017 manifestos were much closer to my own politics than what we’ll see next time, policy platforms I’d love to have seen being implemented now, but they won’t be repeated any time soon. Because as progressive as they were, they are utterly pointless now other than to allow those of us that voted for them to feel special while the country is left to rot under more years of the Tories.
Vote tactically, get Tory MPs out. Then push parties of all colour on policy in future. We don’t just need more Labour MPs, we need more LibDems, more Greens… but they are likely to only make small gains this time… but I hope they do make gains and can make their voices heard in parliament and beyond to build towards more seats in the elections beyond (and pressure Labour to adopt more of their policies at those elections).
All a different story beyond England, of course.
I shall vote Labour, even though the Greens round here are very popular, but with no illusions. Positive change will only come from organising in the workplace, communities and on the streets. If parliament could deliver radical change it would have been abolished.
As an aside, it's interesting that the Times is having a pop at politicians on the take and the Guardian's having a go at the Battenbergs. It's almost as if they want to appear anti-establishment (helping to prepare the nation to replace one establishment figure with another).
Of course he won’t change if elected. The only difference in having Starmer Labour Party in power is they won’t do as much crap as the tory party has over last 12 years. If won’t be drastically better but it won’t be as bad.
I'll take that. The truth is many people don't want dramatic change, they just want this current bunch of tories gone,just competent government. Slightly right or left of centre doesn't really matter to much.
I’ll take that. The truth is many people don’t want dramatic change, they just want this current bunch of tories gone,just competent government. Slightly right or left of centre doesn’t really matter to much.
If you dressed up that change in a G.E tomorrow as half your energy bill, better paid jobs, better infrastruture, stronger economy, lower interest rates and improved NHS. Who seriously wouldn't want that?
Change would be welcome if it was backed up by conviction. And all the lies about tax and spend demolished.
Slightly right or left of centre doesn’t really matter to much.
Only because they've been fleeced into thinking there is only one way of running an economy. There are alternatives.
This is a narrative issue - nothing else.
The truth is many people don’t want dramatic change
That's the sort of attitude which led a government to believe that it was safe to hold a referendum on EU membership.
And why as PM Theresa May thought there would be no risk to her majority government if she called an unnecessary general election and she spoke of "strong and stable".
The 15-20% Labour lead after 13 years of Tory rule is an indication that people want dramatic change. Just like everyone on this thread they might not know what voting Labour will actually mean but the perception is that it will bring very significant change, otherwise there is no way that Labour would have 15-20% leads.
I am very much looking forward to the next general election not because I believe that Starmer has a different vision to the Tories but because that the expectations of 'dramatic change' will be so great that it will force the logjam of British politics to receive a huge battering.
I sincerely believe that Starmer will be totally out of his depth as Prime Minister, and for that reason I am not really bothered what he actually believes in.
Support the Labour leader as a rope supports a hanged man, to use the famous quote.
I don’t understand why folk don’t learn he’s a bloody devious liar
Because the fact that he is a consomethinge liar is not desperately important whilst he is simply leader of the Opposition......so he lied - so what?
It will be utterly different when he is Prime Minister and is under intense scrutiny and forced to make executive decisions.
And pointing an accusing finger at the Tories to distract attention away from his own ineptitude won't be an option when he is PM.
Nor will expelling Labour Party members to garner the support of the Daily Mail and Daily Telegraph be an option for Starmer when he is residing in Number 10.
As I say, I have no doubt that he will be completely out of his depth.
As I say, I have no doubt that he will be completely out of his depth.
His only chance is to do what Brown did and turn on the funding taps for the NHS, Schools, local services and the benefits system. He and Reeves are on record as saying they can't afford to do that so if they don't change their minds they're screwed from the get-go. I never thought we could have a less ambitious and less radical labour govt than Blair's bland '97 version but Starmer looks very keen on providing it. It would be depressing if it wasn't so inevitable.
I’ll take that. The truth is many people don’t want dramatic change
Good point.
Well so long as we ignore brexit
Because the fact that he is a consomethinge liar is not desperately important whilst he is simply leader of the Opposition……so he lied – so what?
Well it kind of bothers me that the liberal commentators have painted him as a man of total integrity.
They refuse to notice.
And yeah 'so what' - but lose my vote then. Fine.
And yeah ‘so what’ – but lose my vote then. Fine.
But you don't know who/what will come after Starmer. You claim to have no faith in Starmer. According to you he has no vision and no answers, and yet you appear to believe that he will serve his full term in office.
We have had 5 Tory prime ministers in 7 years, Cameron, May, Johnson, and Truss, all screwed up and were all replaced. Currently Rishi Sunak is screwing up and will almost certainly be replaced in about 18 months time. After Sunak it will be Starmer's turn to screw up, why do you believe that he will hang on to power?
Unless of course you believe that despite being indistinguishable from a Tory Starmer will somehow be more successful?
Given his eradication of alternative views from the PLP and increasing centrism*, would there be any change of direction even if he was replaced? IMO expecting a progressive candidate to get to a membership vote would be about as likely as SKS revealing he only said the safe things to get elected and unmasking himself as a radical.
*centrism as in controlled from the centre rather than the "centrist" political philosophy.
According to you he has no vision and no answers, and yet you appear to believe that he will serve his full term in office.
I can't predict the future? How would I know? I've been constantly surprised by things have panned out.
You've lost me a bit to be honest.
Https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1643973886311297028?t=Vg_JqQad4CFTVvZomV6Mig&s=19
Where to start...
It's identical to the gutter the Tories like to tread.
would there be any change of direction even if he was replaced?
The only reason Starmer would be replaced would be if there was a crisis, if there wasn't a crisis he wouldn't be replaced.
Any crisis won't be resolved without a change of direction.
So replacing Starmer without a change of direction would be pointless, the person after him would also need to be replaced after a while.
The reality is that power will discredit the Centrists. Unless of course they really do have the answers and being close to the Tories, ie the centre, is the solution. In which case everyone will be happy.
It’s identical to the gutter the Tories like to tread.
It’s worse. They’ve lost me now. Labour can f*** right off. I won’t be voting for these gutter dredging ****ers again.
Who will you vote for?
You know, use your vote to make a difference.
No one probably. I’m not voting for a party which plays the race card and pumps up the culture war.
This is the direction of travel when you simply ape why the Tories are successful - forgetting that the Tories have ran out of steam on policy.
It was inevitable (with the caveat even I didn't expect Labour to be this rotten.)
Just give me a party that actually wants to make things better and can make a robust argument for crying out loud.
I wonder if this campaign might get pulled with Starmer claiming he knew nothing about it?
Ouch. Deb Mattinson. Retweet.
Director of Strategy for Keir Starmer.
Radical, I know, but as I keep saying (and keep getting ignored) maybe try voting for who you actually want. If you’re only arguing about the seasoning on your shit sandwich then why not vote for something else?
Top tip, thanks. I vote Green and will continue to but let's see how that is working out - Oh
New Forest West
Desmond Swayne (Conservative): 32,113 votes
Jack Davies (Liberal Democrat) 7,710
Jo Graham (Labour): 6,595
Nicholas Bubb (Green): 3,888
Conservative majority: 24,403
Still can’t quite believe that poster. It’s bad enough trying to weaponise the issue of child sexual abuse, but the subtle-but-obvious connection of Sunak’s colour with hole Asian grooming gang issue is utterly repugnant.
They might as well create a poster saying ‘Lock up your kids, Rishi’s on the prowl’.
If you dressed up that change in a G.E tomorrow as half your energy bill, better paid jobs, better infrastruture, stronger economy, lower interest rates and improved NHS. Who seriously wouldn’t want that?
It wouldn't take much would it? & surely spending on the infrastructure passes the 'common sense test'?
Yep, awful. Notice John McDonnell has criticised it. Seems like a dream to have someone as solid as John McDonnell in the shadow cabinet now doesn't it.
Alun Cairns Con 27,305
Belinda Loveluck-Edwards Lab 23,743
Anthony Slaughter Green 3,251
Laurence Williams * Gwlad Gwlad 508
My constituency is closer, Think Libs & Plaid didn't run in an unofficial deal last time. Labour need to give me something to vote for if they want my vote, it really wouldn't have to be much!
RESIGN!
I wonder if this campaign might get pulled with Starmer claiming he knew nothing about it?
It's got Starmer's fingerprints over it imo. Example:
The reality:
"The largest group of benefits prosecutions concern the minor infractions of people who fail to declare a piece of information. For example, when part-time workers on housing benefit fail to tell the authorities that their hours at work have increased. Starmer’s words (“getting one over on the system”) were wide enough so that it seemed he was referring to such groups of claimants. And, in doing so, he evoked tabloid myths about undeserving individuals deliberately and systematically milking the system. To speak of claimants in this way was to denigrate them."
Right-wing populism fed by tabloid myths has appealed to Starmer even before he entered parliament.
Self-serving careerism is what motivates Starmer, and he will use whatever tactic is required to reach his goal.
When he wants to seduce the Labour Party so that they will back him to become leader he will be the radical socialist, when he wants to seduce the press so that they will back him to become PM he will transform into a demagogue.
"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them....well, I have others.”
Who the hell is running Labour!!?
They’re miles ahead in the polls and resort to shit like that tweet. Just baffling.
but the subtle-but-obvious connection of Sunak’s colour with hole Asian grooming gang issue is utterly repugnant
The what now?! Sunak and Braverman have been pushing that the ethnicity of abusers and groomers matter. I don’t see anything in that gutter advert that says anything about race. That’s the Prime Minister in the photo.
'Milking the system' like Reeves having to have her parliamentary credit card suspended and Lammy's 'expenses'.