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khan visited after her so strange she got that advice you are so sure about but the mayor did not [ nor did corbyn]- i know its pointless but even so much as hint of a source for that fact you seem to have just pulled out the air?
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khan visited after her so strange she got that advice you are so sure about but the mayor did not [ nor did corbyn]- i know its pointless but even so much as hint of a source for that fact you seem to have just pulled out the air?
chill yer boots, I was merely speculating that she may have either decided herself or recieved advice just guessing like... (they have advisors, politicians, you know...) 😆 🙄
can you give a citation to people trying to confront Khan being led away please I can only see reference to one angry person
strange she got that advice you are so sure about but the mayor did not [ nor did corbyn]-
Do you really think that police/protection teams would view the terrorism or indeed other risk profiles (nutjob protesters) for the PM the same as that for Corbyn or Kahn?
And lets not forget - Jezza's not quite so much a man of the people as sometimes gets made out, he gets the protection officers too:
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I am allowed to take the piss on this thread without people getting offended aren't I? Because it seems odd seeing a pic of Maybot in "public" where the people she's meeting aren't holding placards with soundbites - it's also a shame the shot is too far away so you can't tell how pleased everybody is to be there.
I was not replying to you and had not read your post till now
Nonetheless same question though any proof to substantiate the assertion?
she seemed to have plenty of police to look after her.
Jezza probably needs the protection officers because of angry right wing gun nut jobs
[quote=ninfan ]Do you really think that police/protection teams would view the terrorism or indeed other risk profiles (nutjob protesters) for the PM the same as that for Corbyn or Kahn?
Good point - they're probably not hated in the same way she is, and that would also explain why she's not met the real public in the last 6 weeks.
And lets not forget - Jezza's not quite so much a man of the people as sometimes gets made out, he gets the protection officers too:
You're really struggling now, aren't you zulu? You're using this as an example of Jezza no meeting real people? 🙄 The really hilarious thing is how it contradicts the first part of your post.
You are all being very unfair on Jamby and his yacht. Yachts are available to suit all budgets - I earn not much more than minimum wage and I have one. Possibly a bit smaller and cheaper than Jamby's friends though.
My yacht is very small...
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And Jamby's is far away...
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ou're using this as an example of Jezza no meeting real people?
Erm, no, I'm using it as an example of how the Prime Minister, by virtue of being prime minister at a time of multiple terrorist attacks, might not be put in situations where her safety couldn't be assured.
so essentially in public she is not safe and that is why she never meets the public?
Seems to me like its a shit and weak excuse for her lacking basic humanity like compassion , grace and warmth....ah that is why you are defending her peas in a pod though I assume you can walk the streets safe from harm 😉
Sold my boat years ago when tax rates went up and I left the UK, money I used to spend went into my pension. Another example of tax rises having the effect of reducing tax revenue
..and leaving the EU will curtail freedom of movement so you have to move back to the UK and pay your tax here. Well done you, you must be looking forward to the future
he has a french wife and a good pension so he is free from the consequences of the vote
Maybot may, Maybot may not.
[quote=ninfan ]Erm, no, I'm using it as an example of how the Prime Minister, by virtue of being prime minister at a time of multiple terrorist attacks, might not be put in situations where her safety couldn't be assured.
Given your anecdote doesn't involve Maybot, and she isn't even mentioned in the article, it's kind of erm, an "interesting" example. I could understand if it was being used as an example of why Jezza can't meet the people, but that doesn't appear to be what you're suggesting, and nor is it what's happening.
You'll also have to forgive me, clearly I'm a bit thick that I didn't ascertain that meaning from "And lets not forget - Jezza's not quite so much a man of the people as sometimes gets made out, he gets the protection officers too:"
Anyway...anybody remember this time last week as the exit polls were announced? 😆
Anyway...anybody remember this time last week as the exit polls were announced?
A week IS a long time in politics...
Been off work today so had the news channel on to follow events.
I saw Maybot not meet the public, I saw Khan surrounded by Police Officer's and being derided, and then I saw Jeremy Corbyn being met by people who wanted him there. Going to the centre's where people where gathered to help and even comforting one distraught crying lady as he took her leaflet showing the person she was looking for desperately
I still haven't stopped laughing.
ninfan - MemberErm, no, I'm using it as an example of how the Prime Minister, by virtue of being prime minister at a time of multiple terrorist attacks, might not be put in situations where her safety couldn't be assured.
What JY said.
It's a pretty lame excuse. Personally, if I was in Theresa May's shoes, I would be ashamed to have used it.
If she doesn't like meeting people, she should not have become a politician.
then I saw Jeremy Corbyn being met by people who wanted him there
Pretty shocking that some are trying to imply that Corbyn is trying to make political capital out of this. He's doing his job, which is asking the questions that the public would expect him to ask, comforting and talking to the victims and the community, and being a visible presence to reassure people that their leaders are there and are listening. That's what politics is.
At least someone is doing it.
Erm, no, I'm using it as an example of how the Prime Minister, by virtue of being prime minister at a time of multiple terrorist attacks, might not be put in situations where her safety couldn't be assured.
That is unbelievably weak Tory Boi.
so essentially in public she is not safe and that is why she never meets the public?
Which explains why she didn't do any campaigning in the election. Afraid of being attacked.
In fact it might be safest if she goes back into her cave and never comes out again.
Erm, no, I'm using it as an example of how the Prime Minister, by virtue of being prime minister at a time of multiple terrorist attacks, might not be put in situations where her safety couldn't be assured.
Can't see her being able to quote Churchill anytime soon.
I'm not often moved to agree with Michael Portillo, but I'm with him on this:
"She met in private with the emergency services, a good thing to do no doubt, but she should have been there with the residents, which is what Jeremy Corbyn was.
She wanted an entirely controlled situation in which she didn't use her humanity.
The Prime Minister would have been shouted at by the residents, but she should have been willing to take that."
Klunk - MemberCan't see her being able to quote Churchill anytime soon.
"I have therefore tendered my resignation to the Queen"
Winston Churchill 6 April 1955
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Can't see her being able to quote Churchill anytime soon.
[i]We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.[/i]
opening gambit at Brexit negotiations?
I'm starting to find her and her party thoroughly hateful characters.
Oh **** - I'm seeing rumours of Lib Dems talking to Theresa May.
Oh **** - I'm seeing rumours of Lib Dems talking to Theresa May.
Let's hope that Vince Cable and Ed Davey have learned their lesson.
AlexSimon - Member
Oh **** - I'm seeing rumours of Lib Dems talking to Theresa May.
they'll never learn will they
seeing as they are the anti-brexit party I cant see in a million years that they would go for it, unless the only condition is a 2nd ref... 😉
unless the only condition is a 2nd ref
it would be STV fiasco all over again.
seeing as they are the anti-brexit party I cant see in a million years that they would go for it, unless the only condition is a 2nd ref...
or theresa may's route out of this mess.
the rabid leavers get to hate the lib-dems. which they did anyway.
theresa gets to play the coalition card.
everyone else can get back to some sort of normal.
Lib dems agree supply and confidence then vote against Queens speech flicking the v's to may?
More likely just rumours started by Tories just to scare DUP a bit
unless Sinn Fein threw a massive wobbly at their meeting with May yesterday and its given her pause for thought
not sure you want to get into an intimidation game with them, they might ask their balaclava clad associates to have a friendly word...
Lib dems agree supply and confidence then vote against Queens speech flicking the v's to may?
even if they get a cancel brexit in the speech ? 😯
It would put a different light on the Farron resignation wouldn't it?
Hopefully it's just rumours, but I very much like mikewsmith's idea 🙂
More likely just rumours started by Tories just to scare DUP a bitunless Sinn Fein threw a massive wobbly at their meeting with May yesterday and its given her pause for thought
i think that is exactly what happened. Gerry Adams, yesterday evening:
We have just finished a meeting with the British prime minister and her secretary of state. And we told her very directly that she was in breach of the Good Friday agreement and we itemised those matters in which she was dilatory or in default in relation to that agreement.
being reported in the DM, and the kippers are not happy, they smell a rat!
The Conservatives and Liberal Democrats held a secret meeting yesterday, opening up the prospect of another coalition government.Tory whips met with Alistair Carmichael, deputy chief whip during the alliance, as talks between the Government and the DUP continued.
Talks opened after Lib Dem leader Tim Farron, who had ruled out pacts, deals and coalitions, stepped down on Wednesday.
THE CONS ARE BETRAYING US AND THE BREXIT! WE SHALL HAVE TO REGROUP UNDER A NEW UKIP UNDER NIGELS COMMAND!
This is what the remainiacs have been angling for to kill brexit.
This is the beginning of the establishment betraying the will of the British people and rolling back on brexit
Yes, agreed doris.
I have a question about sinn fein (or rather NI devolved politics). THey said they won seats on a mandate to abstain from westimnister and to oppose brexit, but how do tey oppose brexit if they arent in westiminster? Or are NI MP's also in th northern ireland assembly?
Lol at the idea of LDs forcing second referendum. Bombshell wouldn't cover it 🙂
might not be the lib dems only red line
maybe 2 questions on the ballot paper
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https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/872011238536085504
an example of how the Prime Minister, by virtue of being prime minister at a time of multiple terrorist attacks, might not be put in situations where her safety couldn't be assured
Safe enough for a 91 year old 'also potential terror target' to go though......
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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40300369 ]Loathsome to the rescue[/url]
Is this an elaborate trick where we have to invite Trump over to fire her? Can't Alan sugar do it on bbc3 or something?
Blimey what a day to have no biscuits in.
Safe enough for a 91 year old 'also potential terror target' to go though......
Quite. I'm a republican, but fair do's to the Queen: she visited the victims in Manchester, too.
at what point can the queen write her own speech.
[i]'you lot are bloody useless. where's my sword...' [/i]
Quite. I'm a republican, but fair do's to the Queen: she visited the victims in Manchester, too.
Yup, regardless of stance on the royals you get the impression she's a fairly good egg..... she must think the PM is a **** and I'd love to think she would say as much!
Let's just revisit Tory boy's comment now the queen has been and done what Maybot didn't.
[quote=ninfan ]Do you really think that police/protection teams would view the terrorism or indeed other risk profiles (nutjob protesters) for the PM the same as that for Corbyn or Kahn?
I think what ninfan really meant was don't you know how deeply unpopular and unpleasant the pm is, it's entirely rational that appearing in public would be as toxic and dangerous and letting the orange idiot tweet.
She is so incompetent that she should not be allowed out in public.
To be fair people like Corbyn, Khan and Lizzie. The risk probably is higher for May.
She is so incompetent that she should not be allowed out in public.
She presumably isn't. Possibly a restraining order applied by her party?
Why would you need a restraint? She can't talk to real people end of.
Jeez it just goes to show how incompetent May is when a woman who lives in a 200+ bedroom house comes to show solidarity with people who were lucky just to loose their council flats
aaaaaaaand May still looks worse
[quote=igm ]To be fair people like Corbyn, Khan and Lizzie. The risk probably is higher for May.
Only because the public hate her more
I dont think she would actually be attacked in the physical sense but yes she would probably have faced some hostility as did the mayor.
the idea that it was fear for her safety rather a decision based on her unpopularity, whilst plausible, is just a red herring.
She wanted to avoid the bad press basically and perhaps her default setting is to just duck the tough scenarios as she barely engages with the public from a position of perceived strength.
I'm sure that if she had turned up, certain sectors of the community would just be rounding on that saying she was just doing it for PR, or that it was insensitive of her to speak to the survivors after being responsible for evil Tory cuts
Like Maggie Said - "If my critics saw me walking over the Thames they would say it was because I couldn't swim."
perhaps her default setting is to just duck the tough scenarios a
Iirc it was mentioned when she firrst became pm that her nickname was the submarine, due to her disappearing under the surface when the going gets tough.
perhaps her default setting is to just duck the tough scenarios
Since she was forced to sack her two script writers, I think she is struggling to communicate at any level.
Like Maggie Said
Quoting Fatcha?
Now you're really beginning to struggle......
What next?
Life hacks from Pinochet??
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aaaaaaaand May still looks worse
This....
[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/they-might-have-upset-me-says-may-20170616129681 ]the mash goes close to the bone[/url]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40300369
She spent "almost an hour" at the hospital. Well I take back everything I said now....
[cynical] probably part of the Maybot rebranding [cynical]
She spent "almost an hour" at the hospital.
Anyone?
I try to go through life giving people the benefit of doubt. Loathing people is actually hard work.
That said,I cannot stand even the sight of that grey apparition of a "woman" on TV.
Haven't the poor buggers suffered enough.She spent "almost an hour" at the hospital.
looking more and more like shes going to get pushed out.
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the only thing saving her is no one else wants the job at this time
Nor a G.E
I am slightly perplexed.
What would TM quitting help for a right wing Tory perspective. They are getting the Brexit they want and will have a fantastic scapegoat. There is no one who wants the poisoned chalice and many of the front runners look ****less.
Also what would the right wing media pushing for this same deal have to gain. Much like everything else going on at the moment people seem to want something. They don't know what so any kind of action must be worth a shot...
This is a win win for everybody really.
May has to deal with the impending sh!tstorm of Brexit that nobody wants to deal with then she will undoubtedly have to resign or make way for another leader. She really has shown a complete lack of empathy and political awareness when tough questions have been asked. The sooner the better she's gone for me.
What's a 'stalking horse'?
person who stands to force a contest but with no real prospect of winning usually designed to force out a true candidate