whether she's just obeying the BSDs in the Tory party
BSD?
Berkeley Software Distribution?
I love the idea, but it seems a bit unlikely. She strikes me more as a Windows 98 kind of person.
May was accused of taking the electorate for granted, I think she's now taking a lot of traditional conservative voters for granted. As desperate as they might be to block Corbyn and/or push for brexit, they are not as desperate as May.
She may have crossed a line here, the hypocrisy is stunning and I don't think even the DM etc can spin this one to their readers, older voters know what the DUP represent and their links to terror, for younger voters there's google.
mickmcd - MemberHow many Tory voters would have not voted Tory if they had known a deal with the DUP was how Maybot was going to have a last gasp crack at staying in no10....i wonder?
A hell of a lot of the scottish switchers, that's for sure. A lot of them wouldn't have voted tory if they'd known it's mean she could make a government, let alone this government.
We are now a joke, May launched into her GE, much to the annoyance of the EU, at the worst possible time, she looks weak and the mandate for her Brexit has evaporated,So whens the next election?
What was it the Leavers kept saying about not continually having referendums until you get the result you want? (-:
Since the referendum, it's been stalling tactic after stalling tactic. The first thing she did after the referendum was launch into a pointless court battle trying to overturn something that was clearly enshrined in law, that parliament has to set legislation and not the government alone. Quite what the point of this was I don't know, when after it was all over the opposition went "yeah, ok then" anyway. (Also, I'd love to know how much all that cost, anyone know?)
Then they triggered A50 with a plan written on the back of an envelope like the kid who's forgotten his homework and knocked something out during playtime that morning, went to the EU with a list of demands that the EU, quite rightly, laughed in her face at. And then, what, nothing? Until just now where she decides, "let's have an election!" Tick tock, tick tock.
And so now we have a hung parliament. Something that surely they must've seen coming at least as a possible outcome, if not likely? Yet more faff, trying to find a couple of mates to make up numbers on their football team when no-one else really wants to play apart from that kid who keeps picking his nose and smells of wee. You know, the one who's likely to intentionally kick the ball into the neighbour's garden for a laugh.
Now they're staring down the barrel of a potential leadership challenge; maybe another general election; after that who knows, it's probably time for another referendum.
At this rate the clock's going to have run out on A50 before we've even started negotiations, let alone concluded them. And there's a part of me that wonders whether this heel-dragging is deliberate, and if so what the end goal is - to crash out of the EU with nothing, or to wake up the country to the folly of this nonsense and reject it? I hope it's the latter but I really rather think it's the former.
My mum grew up in Glasgow, she has some stories to tell of the sectarianism of the 60s, they were on the Protestant side but I can still remember the family, including my bigoted grandfather laughing at Robbie Coltrane.
I think plenty of people in Scotland know what the DUP are about, can't see anyone wanting to be associated with that.
No wonder Davidson has moved so quickly to distance herself
No wonder Davidson has moved so quickly to distance herself
Her tweet response to the Telegraph article I linked to earlier today is really rather eloquent! 😉
https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/873296157270827009
This made me laugh. From an [url= https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-result-theresa-may-conservative-party-members-resign-tory-leader-prime-minister-no-majority-a7783281.html ]Independent[/url] article saying her own MPs want her gone:
[i]Asked if there were phone calls being made between Tories about the next leader, Mr Vaizey told the BBC: “That’s so 20th century. It’s all on WhatsApp. Lots of MPs are in lots of different groups."[/i]
So *that's* why she wants to do away with end-to-end encryption...!
Oddly the company I work for recently designated whatsapp as non secure and should not have any information sent that was not public knowledge.
Not sure if it is encryption, server security or how they store their information but I would hope after all the phone hacking scandals our MPs might be more careful with their communications. Though I doubt they are...
Is it "not secure" or is it "we can't guarantee that it is secure"? Subtle but large difference.
Well she should have resigned and 100% would have under normal circumstances - but the Tories have really painted themselves into a corner now.
Can't imagine she'll be enjoying her final few months in the top job.
🙂
Asked if there were phone calls being made between Tories about the next leader, Mr Vaizey told the BBC: “That’s so 20th century. It’s all on WhatsApp. Lots of MPs are in lots of different groups."
Baronness Warsi mentioned the WhatsApp groups on the Last Leg last night.
As I understand it the DUP and SF both took seats from more centrist parties, but SF don't sit in Westminster as they are ideologically opposed to it, so there are literally empty seats in Westminster.
So what's stopping SF saying 'f--- that' and turning up at Westminster, thus cancelling out the influence of the DUP?
Is it "not secure" or is it "we can't guarantee that it is secure"? Subtle but large difference.
I think as far as the IT security guys are concerned if we can't guarantee security then the app is defined as not secure until proven otherwise.. The penalty for failure is too high.
So what's stopping SF saying 'f--- that' and turning up at Westminster, thus cancelling out the influence of the DUP?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_(United_Kingdom)
crashtestmonkey - Member
So what's stopping SF saying 'f--- that' and turning up at Westminster, thus cancelling out the influence of the DUP?
The fact that to do so they would have to swear allegiance to the crown?
Just a tiny stumbling block. I'm sure they can see their way to getting round that...
So what's stopping SF saying 'f--- that' and turning up at Westminster, thus cancelling out the influence of the DUP?
They campaign on a platform of not taking seats and are never going to swear allegiance to the Queen which is a requirement of sitting in Westminster
This comedy sketch must be 30 years old?
The DUP still think this kind of thing is a documentary
Oddly the company I work for recently designated whatsapp as non secure
Really? Wasn't the maybot throwing a shit fit about how all these companies won't help her shitty spy service lo monitor if it, if it's not secure surely the simpletons at GCHQ would be able to read in
[quote=chakaping ]Well she should have resigned and 100% would have under normal circumstances - but the Tories have really painted themselves into a corner now.
Can't imagine she'll be enjoying her final few months in the top job.
Apologies for the source, but I CBA trawling for a better one, was curious what the DM was saying and came across this suggesting that Maybot had to be talked out of resigning [url= http://tinyurl.com/y7taql6s ]warning: Daily Mail link with workaround for annoying STW filter[/url]
The Torys showing the compassion and decency we all expect
Joey Jones, a former adviser to Theresa May, said the PM has suffered "ritual humiliation" at the hands of her own party.He told BBC News that "it seems to me almost she is prime minister only in name".
Two of Mrs May's aides - Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill - have resigned following calls by Tory MPs for her to sack the pair.
"I think that what has happened here is the ritual humiliation and the humbling of the Prime Minister by her very own party," said Mr Jones, who was adviser to Mrs May as home secretary in 2016.
He added: "It is a very lonely situation in which she finds herself - hostage to the Conservative party, within Downing Street.
"The likelihood is there is going to be a knock at that black door and she will be on her way."
Especially those BSDs kindly wrote a resignation for her
.@nicholaswatt says snr Tory figures prepared for "all eventualities" during Thurs night even drafting resignation speech for PM #newsnight
5:10 PM - 10 Jun 2017
to be fair they just suffered humiliation at her hand so its hardly surprising they are blaming her for all of thisJoey Jones, a former adviser to Theresa May, said the PM has suffered "ritual humiliation" at the hands of her own party
She decided to hold the GE, she implemented the plan and manifesto and she must carry the can - though she has tried to throw her advisers under a bus to avoid this
Who else were they going to turn on ?
They won't actually kick her out though, they can't (yet)
The Cabinet meeting Monday morning (or whenever) should be fun.
[quote=Junkyard ]to be fair they just suffered humiliation at her hand so its hardly surprising they are blaming her for all of this
Quite - it would be easier to feel sympathy for the BSDs.
I read she was summoned before the 1922 who told her to ditch those advisors.
Does this result which was largely a brexit endorsement now nullify the referendum? What on earth basis is she going to be negotiating from, she's not even going to be taken seriously.
Will we be staying in now in all but name.
Junkyard - lazarusits hardly surprising they are blaming her for all of this
It's not fair- just because it's entirely her fault.
It's not fair- just because it's entirely her fault.
its hardly surprising they are blaming her for all of this
Cold, you guys are cold
I'm starting a campaign
#freeTheresa
Like her I dont agree with human rights for your enemies 😉
Do you think, #freetheMaybot or even
#PrayforMay is better
according to dm comments section she should go cos she's leading a remainer conspiracy to derail brexit, part of the proof of this is putting the blame at the feet of David Davis. 😆
I saw someone on reddit last night claiming she was a cuck infiltrator
according to dm comments section she should go cos she's leading a remainer conspiracy to derail brexit
Seen that on web a few times
part of the proof of this is putting the blame at the feet of David Davis.
Loving the extra detail
I saw someone on reddit last night claiming she was a cuck infiltrator
These brexies are funny, but their paranoia and willing immersion in the alt-right worldview is quite scary!
Over 1/2millon people signed a petition on change.org opposing the DUP Collation..
If you want to put your name to it, follow the link on the Independent's website.
bikebouy - MemberOver 1/2millon people signed a petition on change.org opposing the DUP Collation..
Must be half a million commited tories, or half a million self conscious DUP voters because the coalition will destroy both parties. Let them at it I say.
[quote=Klunk ]according to dm comments section she should go cos she's leading a remainer conspiracy to derail brexit
The reverse Hanlon's razor - it seems plausible 😆
They're not forming a coalition though, will be some sort of agreement but not an actual coalition.
Even the tories know an actual coalition would be too much for some.Lol
Over 1/2millon people signed a petition on change.org opposing the DUP Collation..If you want to put your name to it, follow the link on the Independent's website.
Although I may not agree with the DUP they were voted into their seats via a the process we have. They have as much right to be part of a government as anyone else who was voted in. it is up to the elected officials to form a government and staff it as they see appropriate.
If there had been a conservative or labour majority would there be a petition to invalidate the vote?
This outcome was on the cards from the moment the exit polls came out. There are simply no other options for them to stay in power. While they waste time the clock is ticking.
[url= http://news.sky.com/story/how-long-until-britain-leaves-the-eu-live-countdown-10817397 ]Countdown to Brexit[/url]
Just checked with my (French) wife and in France the government has the right to sell your house whilst you are still alive to fund your social care. Socialist France. They also means test yoir children too if your house is not worth enogh and they are asked to contribute.
@dirtydog it may be a full on coalition, I believe thats being discussed
@Klunk on that piece they make the point that a Government negotiating Brexit should be lead by someone who campaigned for Leave. If (when) May goes thats who will most likely be PM
It's not fair- just because it's entirely her fault.
🙂
Therefore she cannot rule as a minority
3 months max and the whole shit show unravels and we have another GE
Every line they peddled about JC becomes farcical (coalition + terrorist sympathiser) and they're the polar opposite of strong and stable
Labour in power within 4 months
While they waste time the clock is ticking.Countdown to Brexit
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@dirtydog it may be a full on coalition, I believe thats being discussed
The Democratic Unionist Party have agreed in principle a "confidence and supply" deal to support a Conservative government, it has been announced.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40236152
Does this result which was largely a brexit endorsement now nullify the referendum? What on earth basis is she going to be negotiating from, she's not even going to be taken seriously.
Will we be staying in now in all but name.
@Nipper that is seriously clutching at straws
The result was driven mostly by Mays's disastrous Manifesto commitment to use home value to fund social care (as they do in France but thats not the point) and a successful Labour attack line on police numbers.
The Labour Party camlaigned on the basis of ending freedom of movement, hence withdrawing from THE single market and customs union.
May tried to make it all about Brexit and lost her majority as Labour made the election about other things as they basically agreed with May on Brexit.
