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I posted this on page 1, six months ago and don’t see that anything has changed:
She made a series of appalling decisions and frankly will inspire no confidence at all. However, the last thing the country needs is a leadership battle. She needs to realign the position and move forward...for now at least!
airtragic - MemberFor the Tories, Hunt’s name is being bandied around too. All a bit tainted, aren’t they?!
I like the headlines "Jeremy Hunt positions himself for a leadership bid". There's probably an internal vacancy coming up at my place which I'm after, and I'm preparing for it by doing extra work in that field, being generally awesome, and trying to impress the boss and colleagues. Jeremy Hunt, in my position, would prepare for it by smearing himself in his own shit then telling everyone how amazing being smeared in shit is
Milf or Gilf is my question.
If we get a carp deal, do we still exit? Or another referendum/general election?
It was carp that got us into this Brexit mess in the first place!
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Well at least they are not eating the swans anymore.
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The reshuffle is now in serious trouble. Hunt was supposed to emerge from No10 as the new Business Secretary. Appears Greg Clark has refused to budge.
even better
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Breaking: the reshuffle's big shock - Jeremy Hunt refused a move to BEIS to insist he stay on as Health Sec with a beefed up brief of social care too.
Hunt in charge of social care. Surely this is some kind of elaborate joke?
I see the lying David Davis is still in, so too that berk BloJo.
Glad I’m not a scheming Tory beastiality fetsh ponce.
She's just reinforced exactly how week she is, by confirming that the hardline Brexiteers are indeed unsackable.
Boris could get his nob out and wave it at some international dignitaries on live telly, and he'd still be safe as Foreign Secretary
So, we know Anne Milton was supposed to be Health Secretary before Hunt decided he likes screwing the NHS over too much to stop. How do we know this? Because last night, her wikipedia entry was amended to remove the fact that her husband is a director at Virgin Care, by an IP address known to be in the House of Commons.
AD - MemberHunt in charge of social care. Surely this is some kind of elaborate joke?
Well, they moved most social care elements out of the NHS (so they could slash social care without "cutting the NHS", and so that they could shuffle money around existing budgets and pretend it was new money), and that caused massive problems where the 2 meet, so it makes sense to have them all under one arsehole again. I mean roof.
She can reshuffle s as much a she likes but it's still s at the end of the day.
A government that holds utter contempt for a large proportion of the populous and has repeatedly shown that the party comes before the country time and time again.
As for social care and the NHS, as far as I am concerned May and her cronies have blood on their hands.
Words fail to express how much I loath this government.
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Hunt in charge of social care. Surely this is some kind of elaborate joke?
Role expanded.
Obviously, the NHS is working more or less according to Tory government plans.
Of course it is, as Theresa May said the other day they planned for the current crisis to happen just like they planned for last year's.
to be fair if their is one thing you can trust this govt to do its to lurch from one crises to another
You’ve got to credit her with consistency. Absolutely everything she does collapses into a total omnishambles!
Regarding the canceling of planned operations
I know for certain that urgent cancer ops are being cancelled as well, due to lack of ITU beds, this does happen from time to time and it's always worse in the winter but much worse this year, even than last, next month when the flu season peaks, will presumably be worse.
But the man who delivered this definitely needs his role expanding, rather than him being sacked?
It does indeed show that she’s more than happy with the direction of travel under his stewardship.
Run it into the ground, then offer privatisation as the ‘only solution’ in the post-brexit economies tsunami
hardline Brexiteers are indeed unsackable.
Of course they are unsackable, its what people voted for.
Aside from booting out Hammond a reshuffle was unnecessary, hence what we see today. No real changes
I don’t remember voting to a bumbling ****-wit to be an (unsackable) international embarrassment on the world stage and turn us into a laughing stock, but if that’s the ‘Will of the People’ eh Jammers?
I take it you think you think he’s doing a great job? 😆
As someone said on HIGNFY, sacking Johnson would be like letting an arsonist walk away from the scene of the crime, only to come back later claiming to be the fire brigade.
I love the fact that our countries entire economic future is a secondary consideration to the internal machinations of the Tory party
It’s like some ****ing feudal medieval court!
It’s like some ****ing feudal medieval court!
Except lacking the only benefit of a medieval court.
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It’s like some ****ing feudal medieval court!
Except lacking the only benefit of a medieval court.
Subtle but I like it.
Very true.
Just read about Justine Greening getting sacked, that's a shame, she got lumbered with trying to implement some truly terrible policies and totally sidelined in the queen's speech by brexit but she was a strong contender for "least awful minister". (the head of the ASCL says he regrets her leaving and that "She has tried hard to tackle the school funding crisis, without any help from the chancellor or prime minister")
But that's the price of being a remainer I guess.
Not a great day for Esther McVey either, knowing that she's second best to someone that didn't want the job. I once had to tell a failed candidate they'd got the job because the first one wouldn't do it for the money so I empathise with Theresa May on this one, it's no fun
Toby Young appears to have quit...after May gave her wholehearted support
Just when you thought May had clawed back a bit of credibility, she tries a reshuffle and it all goes tits up.
Johnsons(s) & May backing of Toby Young now makes them look even stupider as he's realised being a professional troll is incompatible with being a gov. advisor.
Weak & Wobbly
She couldn't run a third world country.
After Brexit I might have proof of that. 😉
The fact that HUnt refused to move and May let him get away with it shows her weakness
Regarding the canceling of planned operations
I know for certain that urgent cancer ops are being cancelled as well, due to lack of ITU beds, this does happen from time to time and it's always worse in the winter but much worse this year, even than last, next month when the flu season peaks, will presumably be worse.
@kimbers it's just the same in France except their the Government directed the hospitals to do it. The French system is much better funded than is the NHS, mostly due to a combination of higher taxes and fact the service is not universally free at the point of delivery
Today's reshuffle brought in some new faces. Onwards and upwards we go
Up to where? Have wages caught up with inflation? What about earnings and house prices?
Perhaps a reduction in national debt and no big bills coming up?
Now where was the 350mil this week
Onwards and upwards we go
Whilst your blinding optimism might be laudable, I'd suggest delusional is a more appropriate adjective.
That said, I doubt we could get much lower...
Im sure May will be reshuffling this reshuffle again soon, when the next round of scandals, sackings & incompetence surfaces
[quote=jambalaya ]Onwards and upwards we go
Like Icarus
jambalaya » Onwards and upwards we go
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Remember Cameron, his increasingly bilious visage, his bloated self confidence born from of a life of utter privilege?
Remember Osborne, his seemingly sneering disregard for everyone around him?
I'd have them back in a heartbeat
*sigh*
It was impossible to imagine at the time that we would look upon this as a golden era of benign parliamentary competence...
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Having said that, heir final act was to deliver us into this shitstorm, and it will be all either of them will ever be remembered for
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It was a rude shock to wake up on the 24th June 2016 and to realise that Cameron and Osborne were the moderate wing of the Conservative Party.
It's interesting to note that the Conservatives have stopped publishing membership data. I've seen estimates as low as 70,000 card carrying Tories as there appears to have been a large number of party members leaving since the Referendum but this is largely speculation based upon opinion poll data.
[url= http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN05125 ]Party membership data[/url]
The great thing about Conservative Party members is that if the party continues on its' current course then members will die off faster than they can be replaced. Good riddance.
I'm not sure about that. People seem to become more conservative as they get older, so as the middle ages moved into old age they will go that way.
[quote=yourguitarhero ]People seem to become more conservative as they get older, so as the middle ages moved into old age they will go that way.
Maybe. To a certain extent I'm sure it's true with a small c, but it may be a political truism which isn't. I find it hard to believe I'm the only person around who's become far less big C Conservative as they've got older.
People seem to become more conservative as they get older, so as the middle ages moved into old age they will go that way.
I would say, traditionally educated people have, but not any more. What we are getting now is people suffering a lifetime of propaganda on right wing issues by most of the established media.
research lately has been showing its no longer the case that people are turning Tory as they age, as they once did.
The reasoning being that people are taking much longer to get on the property ladder & accumulate wealth , but that is no longer happening at the same rate (thatchers right to buy & Cam+Os' help-to-buy were political tools to expand their voter base)
But Tories have made great efforts to insulate pensioners from wrst of austerity at the expense of the young, hence why Mays dementia tax was sucha disaster even though its something that needs addressing
thats still offset by the shift in our demographics to an older population, but it is still shifting
until then we are still being held hostage by the oaps until they get theyre blue passports back
PJM1974 - MemberIt was a rude shock to wake up on the 24th June 2016 and to realise that Cameron and Osborne were the moderate wing of the Conservative Party.
It shouldn't have tbh, they were always the polish on the jobby
they were always the polish on the jobby
It would seem that the party has given up on trying to detoxify the brand and appears to be doing all it can to push the agenda culturally, it's telling that some Conservative commentators are more concerned about university student unions not platforming far right speakers and the ever increasing social media presence of organisations like Stop Funding Hate than they are about working towards providing adequate housing, social care and funding for the NHS.
If one stands outside Conservative Party HQ and listens carefully, you can just about make out the slurping noise as the party disappears up its' own fundament.
Should May resign? When she is so weak that Hunt can refuse to move posts then yes. She has lost all power.
Now Rudds gone who can May hide behind?
At this rate just call me Dave will be back in office.
At this rate just call me Dave will be back in office.
I suspected when she took over May will end up making Cameron look like an enlightened leftie by comparison. However, Cameron deserves to be lynched for starting the Brexit fiasco so he'd better stay hidden.
Our local conservative leaflet is making promises that if in power after this weeks elections they challenge the current administrations proposal to make Green bin collections every two weeks.
With a manifesto for the borough as strong as that how could I resist... Its indicative to me the conservatives don’t really have much to offer.
flounder
If she did resign I hear there's a job going at the Daily Wail that would suit her.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44417629
Interesting idea on pay gaps and explaining it though as usual action is better than headlines....
I’m left bemused as to how MayBot has lasted so long, that and the Lying BloHard and Davies.
Seems the more lies you spout and the harder you shout and point, the longer you last in this pathetic lying circle of bullies.
May - I think two issues. she has a real sense of "duty" and believes she is the only one who can deliver and unite the tories and also that no one actually wants to depose her now knowing that they would carry the can for the brexit shambles and the next election is going to be lost. They all want to be the next but one leader
I do feel a bit sorry for her in one way - it must be real mental torture for her but because of this sense of duty she just keeps ploughing on
I do feel a bit sorry for her in one way – it must be real mental torture for her but because of this sense of duty she just keeps ploughing on
Ive tried to feel a bit sorry for her, but despite my best efforts I really couldn’t
Agreed, she's put herself in this position. No sympathy !
No one else wants the job & fear of a Corbyn government keeps the rebels in line (even tho latest polls see a widening Tory lead)
yeah when gammon williamson is shaking you down for your dinner money its bad news
It's taxpayers who will give him that money. Ones like me.
She should just say we'll use some of the money we'll save from no longer being in the EU. That particular wheeze worked really well last Sunday...
It’s taxpayers who will give him that money. Ones like EVERYONE
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FIFY
It's just a nice thing for her ministers to talk about
Caught the usual lines on Radio 5 this morning
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00tl965
The only condition is Labour not getting in, it's down to how they have managed the economy, then throw in some mumbles about other stuff and dodge the questions
At this rate just call me Dave will be back in office.
That clown should be dragged back from wherever he scuttled off to & forced to sort out this whole shambles that he started & if he's to inept to sort it (probably), then he gets sent to the tower.
Oh god, that video on the guardian is excruciating, I feel sorry for her again, now
I didnt know where to put this but, 'kin hell its scary days
I freely admit,” Karen freely admitted, “that when I started this job, I didn’t understand some of the deep-seated and deep-rooted issues that there are in Northern Ireland. I didn’t understand things like when elections are fought, for example, in Northern Ireland – people who are nationalists don’t vote for unionist parties and vice versa.”
Nope...Nope....Nope...Nope - I don't believe anyone, especially a politician could be so immensly ****ing ignorant to the point of being way below sub human intelligence of the above facts.
That must be a parody, if not then whoever recommended her for the position deserves to be bitch slapped by every single person in northern ireland, and as for Karen Bradley? - there's nothing that can be done for her stupidity apart from euthanasia.
Imagine the Interview that she must have had with May. Did she admit (freely obvs) that she knew nothing about NI politics when she was offered the job? Did she start at the Wiki page? Pop along to Waterstones for a copy of "101 things you didn't know about sectarianism"
****ing embarrassing
Wow. That's... special, even by Tory standards.
I just don’t get it. If a normal person (a prole perhaps like me) even interviewed for a job and had no idea about it, they’d just be laughed out of the room. How anyone can actually accept such a job and then also be stupid enough to reveal they haven’t got the first clue about is also staggering. A new low.
I’ve read ‘Provos’, ‘Loyalists’ and ‘Brits’ by Peter Taylor and watched a few documentaries about ‘The Troubles’, and this makes me infinitely more qualified for the job than the actual incumbent(?) What the actual ****?
I’d give her a Tricolor and a Union Jack put her in the middle of the Falls or the Shankhill, telling her which one it is, and ask her to pick a flag that she then has to walk the length of the road waving enthusiastically. Fifty-fifty is better odds than she deserves, so I’m being generous.
Yeah but if all you have to pick from are Tory MP's.....
There you go an excuse for her. Just the one mind you.
She was born in 1970, though, for Christ’s sake.
How can someone elected to high office not have at least absorbed something over all that time? Hunger Strike? Gibraltar? Brighton Bomb? Birmingham Six? How can none of this have gone in?
Bloody useless. Closeted, glib, complacent fools.
Hunger Strike? Gibraltar? Brighton Bomb? Birmingham Six? How can none of this have gone in?
Was that the prequel?
Well Jennifer Lawrence does make me quiver so thanks for that, at least.....
Summed up perfectly, as always by Marina Hyde
Karen Bradley routs her rival imbeciles with Ladybird guide to Northern Ireland
those dastardly plotters are at it again, Tory Mps apparently whatsapping this to each other.......
