[Closed] Seriously do people dislike Tesco this much ?

I wrote a stern letter to Waitrose once.

some people obviously do

That's Bristol for you! Never a dull moment.

I love Asda me, I do.

When this Country goes to war, and the masses clear out the shelves of tesco, asda etc. Where will the masses then get their food?
Farms? that have been depleted by insulting offers from the large supermarkets?
Or will the boats full of imported food still be able to find a way ashore when our ports have been wiped out?

Horrible company in my opinion. Huge profits, pay staff f*ck all.

I dont dislike them that much but i dont like them and dont shop there around the MCdonalds or possibly th Murdoch mark on the Nestle scale of bastards IMHO.

Horrible company in my opinion. Huge profits, pay staff f*ck all.

[i]Seriously do people dislike Tesco this much ?[/i]

Not really. If your question was "Seriously, are we creating a country filled with idiots and deadheads?

Then the answer would be "Yes"

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Has someone stolen your log in today DS you seem quite contrary you OK? Missing TSY already?

I only dislike them for the same reasons as Bill Bryson dislikes them - the ongoing homogenisation of every village, town and city in the country - I like to see small businesses doing well, quite apart from the aesthetic effect on our high streets.

In the case above, the local residents just didn't want their street to look the same as every other. In the short clip I saw on the news, it looked like there were a good few independent, small shops and businesses in the street, with all the quirks and character you'd expect and hope for.

Quite obvious questions Junky, no? There are two sides to every argument and I often see the "where can I buy product X cheapest?" threads, and now we're seeing the consequences of that question. I am also lucky enough to work closely with some directors of an important supermarket chain and get a different perspective there.

Tesco, Muslims, Petrol prices, Facists, Pediatritians etc, ****wits just need someone to vent their spleens at.

What we need is a good old fashioned war.

31 years is as good an anniversary as any for Bristolians and the police to have a rematch of St Pauls.

user unremoved with too many cylinders. what d'you reckon? interesting nick. that is at least, real.

I am also lucky enough to work closely with some directors of an important supermarket chain and get a different perspective there.

'Important' lol, lucky? pmsl. I'm "lucky" enough to be friends with someone who works with a rumbustinous supermarket chain and I hear their perspective, which is generally the corporate bullshit that they have been fed, and I continually take the piss out of them too.

actually i nearly hada run in at sainsburys

they tried to charge us 50 quid for parking

after id spent 70quid on shopping then fed our baby and bought lunch in their cafe and i have bust foot so move slowly

to be fair i was ready to go balistic but they just said err yeah ok and let us off the charge

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I'm a small business owner 😀

But I don't have a shop front and noticed the way our high streets were changing long before I read any Bill Bryson... Also accepted it though - I often get bottles of cheap wine from Tescos 😳

Oh wait - you've edited your post kevevs - and I've no idea what it means?! And it makes my reply look nonsensical too 🙁

Try working for ASDA (Walmart). Group hugs (and like you I work in IT so that's Unix guys,,,, GAG!), american policies (work to death - WHY DON'T YOU DO THIS?), and in Leeds we all got mugged for our laptops so the company said "If soome one tries to take your ASDA laptop away from you, try hitting them with the laptop."

'Important' lol, lucky? pmsl. I'm "lucky" enough to be friends with someone who works with a rumbustinous supermarket chain and I hear their perspective, which is generally the corporate bullshit that they have been fed, and I continually take the piss out of them too.

How does that fit with the objectives of the company? Who gives them the huge profits? And finally why do they give them those huge profits?

Horrible company. No more explanation required.

Horrible company. No more explanation required.

It's not just Tesco, it's all the big supermarkets; I thought it was tight that the supplier has to shoulder the cost of a buy one get one free offer, but then when I learnt that the supplier also has to pay a 'compensation' fee to supermarket on the grounds that the BOGOF offer will cause a (nonexistent) drop in foot fall through the door, I really realised what tossers they are. Although I tend to show my displeasure with them by shopping local.

Not that keen, although I do shop there occasionally. Can't say I'd be motivated to petrol bomb one though.

I'd say that the second largest retailer in the world is important and that being able to listen to some of their directors talking is quite interesting

Not that important to me, and I'd probably be falling asleep during that conversation. Equally, I'm sure there are things I find fascinating that would bore you to tears.

thing is running a business is solely about maximising profits sometimes the wider community objects to this and do stuff like this. I assume they lecture on marketting and making the company look nice etc. Sometimes the veeners cracks and the people realise the company does not give a shit about anything but money. Tesco are hardly alone in this as there is a long tradition of companies doing various things , of varying degrees of dubious legality and morality, to maximise profits.
Do i blame the customers or the store bit of both but I bet they dont make all there internal policies and tactics known to thier customer base.

You don't undersatnd what a company is, do you?

I did wonder if Hugh was there coercing everyone into attacking Tesco.
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Apparently it started off as an eviction and I have seen 1st hand from not too far away near my flat what happens when an evictions happens in Brizzle. The Police have to go in force as squatters/floppy haired dirty scruffy people seem to appear from all angles to support the squatters being evicted and a small eviction can turn nasty very quickly.

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That is disgraceful. But all you have to do is lose your ticket and buy something in sainsbuys to get the charge down to £5 as they seem to have made a mistake there.

That's possibly the most convincing argument yet and you've removed something from the first attempt. You don't undersatnd what a company is, do you?

I understand well enough. And I stand by what I said. I am allowed an opinion you know.

Apparently it started off as an eviction

Well, [s]Tescos[/s] someone wasn't happy with a squat full of Tesco demonstrators in the immediate locality, and tipped off the cops that the place was full of petrol bombs (totally unconfirmed as yet), so the police turned up to check it out.

No, it's just that stokes croft is full of hippies. There's been a long-running protest about opening tesco in bristol's self-styled cultural quarter. The yoghurt-weaving dreadlocked inhabitants of this notably shitty part of bristol feel that doing so would lead to the abandoned buildings they treasure so dearly being used as something other than a toilet for the local dogs or a squat for them to procure ketemine.

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ahh yes there was the petrol bomb claim.

I'd say that the second largest retailer in the world is important and that being able to listen to some of their directors talking is quite interesting

Not that important to me, and I'd probably be falling asleep during that conversation. Equally, I'm sure there are things I find fascinating that would bore you to tears.

I suspect they do know as it is hardly a connudrum or do we need a MBA to be sure?

they tried to charge us 50 quid for parking

Sorry for wasting your time.

Fair enough. Can you apologise to the guy who was laughing at you too please? He might be quite upset, or start taking himself a bit too seriously. Which would be worse, clearly 😉

I completely agree, and if you look through the search function you'll see I got castigated for calling MBA students stupid or limited or something, but coogan's compelling and convincing argument forced me to ask the question as I got the impression that he/she thinks that company has to satisfy the customer's needs, and that this is the root of his/her dissatisfaction.

I/she dislikes the company, their products and all that they are. Pretty simple. It's not that difficult.

Fair enough. Can you apologise to the guy who was laughing at you too please?

I/she dislikes the company, their products and all that they are. Pretty simple. It's not that difficult.

That is disgraceful. But all you have to do is lose your ticket and buy something in sainsbuys to get the charge down to £5 as they seem to have made a mistake there.

Exactly, conveniently lost mine under a floor mat... Is that the Sainsbury's near Brighton Station?

It's been a long, hot summer. The heat's making people twitchy and aggressive.

Horrible company in my opinion. Huge profits, [b]pay staff f*ck all[/b].

I'm deeply against riots of that sort, but I'm split on the underlying issue. Sure, in an ideal world I'd much rather have a range of independent shops to choose from and I often do a small extra effort to buy local where possible. But ultimately I often find that if someone is offering to sell me the same product for half the price of everyone else I can't say no. What's more I'm willing to bet many of those rioters are hypocrites who do exactly the same thing.

get ovar it bitch.

Tescos also own One Stop.

One Stop and Tescos Express carry a lot of the same items.

One Stops are usually in more impoverished areas, Tescos Express a bit more affluent.

Guess which one has higher prices (14% higher)?

What's more I'm willing to bet many of those rioters are hypocrites who do exactly the same thing.

oh no!! not hypocrisy.. that's only one step away from rape and peadophilia..

I was quite supportive of these bored druggies until someone mentioned hypocrisy..
lock 'em up and throw away the key..

 

I'm fully in support of people who want to keep their Neighbourhoods free of tesco and their like.

They shaft producers, consumers, workers and add NO value to our society.

Was lol'ing at the police tactics. Pricks. Particularly like the comments about finding petrol bombs that were definately going to be used for tesco. Did they have tesco only stickers on them?

Did they have tesco only stickers on them?

they found a horde of tesco value petrol bombs.. which are bogof at the moment in the civil unrest section at selected stores..

the horde was leftover from the panic buying that people did in the lead up to the damp squib that was the anti-cuts protests in London last month..

Good to see people taking control of their Neighbourhoods. It's what Dave cameron wants.

MBA - mediocre but arrogant

Personally I avoid Tesco but it's quite easy to where I live - fuel from Morrisons, food from Co-op.

We buy everything on our tesco credit card and shop there 50% of the time and love the points deals. We use them all on days out vouchers, which this weekend will enable us to do loads of stuff for free!! Anyway, when do we start on greggs, they've wrecked several bakeries in the local towns around us. Anyway as I'm not a hypocrite I would loved to have bought into that franchise three or four yrs back!!

Horrible company in my opinion. Huge profits

Which are probably paying for your pension, but you wont be complaining about that when you come to cash it in.

Which are probably paying for your pension, but you wont be complaining about that when you come to cash it in.

Tesco is unlikely to be paying into anyone's pension
http://m.accountancyage.com/aa/news/1775369/judge-rules-tesco-s-tax-avoidance

But it seems some people like Tesco.
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Tesco is unlikely to be paying into anyone's pension

Tesco is unlikely to be paying into anyone's pension

In answer to the OP -

Seriously do people dislike Tesco this much ?

I think the question should have been

Seriously do people dislike living in a Police state this much ?

Will there be an inquiry into this ? Will the police be forced to prove that truly independent witnesses saw petrol bombs ? Will they be held to account if they can't prove this and it turns out that they acted illegaly and ended up injuring both police officers and members of the public as a result ?

These truly are dark days.

In the meantime, just use it as an excuse to hate hippies or tesco.

the problem i have with tesco closing down local alternatives is that once you have lost the choice to exercise your consumer buying power they have cart-blanche to raise prices at the till while forcing producers to lower theirs.
look at milk as an example- the official cost of production is 21p, tesco buy at 17p and sell at 51p. so what do you do if your a dairy farmer?

the problem i have with tesco closing down local alternatives is that once you have lost the choice to exercise your consumer buying power they have cart-blanche to raise prices at the till while forcing producers to lower theirs.

Don't blame Tesco, blame the consumer.

You're saying that Tesco (other large supermarket chains are included) is entirely innocent in changing the face of our high street? That it's ALL down to the consumer?

You are still on the sangria from last night and I claim my five pounds.

so what do you do if your a dairy farmer?

there is also there planning process
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/5342914.stm
here they built a store 20% bigger than they had planning for. Whilst I am sure Tesco insist it was an accident no one seems to have lost their job over this and that is one hell of an oversight.
They also appeal all planning decisions and can cripple councils with charges defennding this.
Re the pensions it is not like someone paying into a pension scheme has any control over what the pension fund does or where it invests. I am not sure what the point is beyond saying tesco dont care and neither does your pension fund as profit is the sole motive of both which is hardly news
http://www.tescopoly.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=333&Itemid=117
if you want to campaign against them you can read here.
Like many large companies they dont really give a shit beyond maximising profit if this is achieved by ignoroing planning laws, avoiding taxes or screwing their suppliers. at £3.2 billion profit and how uickly it it has grown they are very good at it.
Graham [ignoring the vegan argument for a minute] people will go out of production and we will likely end up with super dairies [is this better or just cheaper?] this will impact on the countryside in general and small rural communities.

Don't blame Tesco, blame the consumer

Wrong

Yea, the consumer will gravitate towards best value but it's not individual choice that's to blame. Where has the regulation from bodies that govern the planning applications been? Why do tesco insist on squeezing producers until the pips squeak? Why are prices for many goods artificially low? As with the banking crisis a lack of proper scrutiny and regulation (by successive administrations) has created an artificial economy where big business wins at the expense of everybody else.

Blaming the consumer is not facing up to the reality.

tesco can afford to undercut local shops no matter what their prices are for long enough to close them at which point they can raise them to whatever they want. that is manipulation of the market, it is not consumer choice.
mtg- vegan are you?

DS you are correct if consumers did not shop their none of the conseuences would happen but I am not sure Tesco can completely wash it hands either - clearly it will aim to undercut competitors and drive them out of business as part of their model - they certainly wont be supporting them and given economies of scale [ and consumers basing everything on price only] it is a competition that a sole trader cannot win.
It is also true that CRC merlin Wiggle will impact on LBS but I suspect more for the niche high end consumer spender[us]. If you want a £300 bike and a new tyre you will probably go to the LBS/evans/Halfords if you are not a bike geek so they can compete in other areas. harder for a food retailer to do this.
Luckily Merlin is my LBS so I can do both
MTG is a vegan - so am I

Yea, the consumer will gravitate towards best value but it's not individual choice that's to blame. Where has the regulation from bodies that govern the planning applications been? Why do tesco insist on squeezing producers until the pips squeak? Why are prices for many goods artificially low? As with the banking crisis a lack of proper scrutiny and regulation (by successive administrations) has created an artificial economy where big business wins at the expense of everybody else.

To expand on my reply then...
I work for the UK's largest public transport company, the Tesco of bus operators if you will.
Whereas you might phone your local tyre fitter and say "How much will a pair of tyres for my car cost ?", we have probably got someone in head office who phones the tyre manufacturers and says "We've got 9000 buses with 6 tyres each and we're prepared to pay £x per tyre. Can you deliver ?. If not, we'll go somewhere else."
That's business. Why do farmers deserve more sympathy than people working in tyre factories ?

You're saying that Tesco (other large supermarket chains are included) is entirely innocent in changing the face of our high street? That it's ALL down to the consumer?

You are still on the sangria from last night and I claim my five pounds.

mtg- i applaud your choices
but farmers deserve sympathy because we cannot survive without them, ok not dairy farmers, i used them as an example as there were figures readily available.

MidlandTrailquestsGraham - Member
so what do you do if your a dairy farmer?

Get a proper job ?

It is a proper job, Tesco though likes to pay people less for the milk than it costs to make, thats no right, tesco is destroying small family farms, the only farmers that are still going have had to get big and industrial, i grew up on a farm ( quite a big one i must admit) and have seen how things have changed because of these bastards.. quite simply i hope any one that supports their right to exist or works for them in levels of higher management chokes to death on one of their crappy hot cross buns.
They are also doing a good job of destroying the environment as well! all those unnecessary transport of goods, take a cabbage from penzance, to bristol and back to penzance again...epic fail!

Lazy producers?

Making a profit for shareholders? An obligation no less at everybody elses expense.

Blimey

i take it most of the anti farmer comments come from stupid lower middle class townies, that read the guardian and think any one that does not think like them must be evil or stupid!

Tesco though likes to pay people less for the milk than it costs to make,

Making a profit for shareholders? An obligation no less at everybody elses expense.

j_me - Member

...aaaaaand! they're off.... 😀

...aaaaaand! they're off.... 😀

yossarian - Member
Lazy producers?

yea many of them have killed them selves because of tesco destroying their lives, seriously i will happily fight any one that thinks farmers are lazzy and think that some how deserve to lose their way of life for the benefit of a few share holders.

Apparently 96% of the local community had come out against Tesco's opening in the local are, and vowed not to shop there - so, clearly there's no problem, the store will close in no time at all due to lack of customers.

This is how the free market works!

Why are Tesco so successful in local areas? Said it before on here - its down to the simple fact that the local shops are still stuck on traditional opening hours (9-5, often 9-3 for butchers and bakers) which came about when, as a general rule, women didn't work. Society has changed, increasingly women work for a living, people want to shop for dinner on their way home, shops need to adapt to recognise this, unti they do, supermarkets will continue to expand, and small independent shops continue to close.

That's not a very good business, is it? Why don't they sell it themselves and keep the profit? Just like the dairy farm local to where I used to live, lovely fresh green top...

Because the smaller farms already struggle for money and what you're suggesting is that they set-up an operation that involves buying in containers to hold the milk and then either hiring more people or installing machinery to fill said containers and then someone to sell said containers. On top of that to sell all the milk that they get they'd probably need some form of marketing campaign too.

Tesco though likes to pay people less for the milk than it costs to make,

That's not a very good business, is it? Why don't they sell it themselves and keep the profit? Just like the dairy farm local to where I used to live, lovely fresh green top..

because you need to spend millions of pounds on a milk processing plant! and where are you going to sell it? personaly i think all the farmers should go on strike, 3 days and the country would collapse from food shortages!

Economies of scale and the downsides of monopoly are not that hard to grasp. Putting responsibility on the consumer is naive.

The Police's heavy handed approach is another issue all together but good on the locals for standing up for fighting for their principles, putting their liberty on the line and risking injury for their community.

That's true Englishness standing up for principles, a community and against at best inept at worst corrupt governance.

The real villain’s here are not the police, Tescos or the community. It's the council for letting the planning go through with overwhelming local opposition because they don't value or care about the community.

Lazy producers?

Making a profit for shareholders? An obligation no less at everybody elses expense.

Blimey

Because the smaller farms already struggle for money and what you're suggesting is that they set-up an operation that involves buying in containers to hold the milk and then either hiring more people or installing machinery to fill said containers and then someone to sell said containers. On top of that to sell all the milk that they get they'd probably need some form of marketing campaign too.