Scottish politics thread

politecameraaction · 2024-04-22T22:21:39Z

There was some moaning when I mentioned a couple of developments in mainstream Scottish politics on the thread about Nicola Sturgeon and her husband being arrested, so it might be more useful to discuss them on some kind of general Scottish politics thread. – the Scottish government has binned its decarbonisation targets and adopted the pisspoor English and Welsh approach. – life expectancy in Scotland is the worst in Western Europe and the drugs death rate is 3 times higher than in England, despite child poverty being about ⅔ of that in England - alcohol deaths are about a third higher in Scotland than in the UK generally, and the number of people accessing alcohol treatment in Scotland has gone down by 40% in 10 years.The pisspoor health outcomes are particularly interesting (when the decarbonisation stuff is simply bad government). It's not as simple as saying "deprivation is the cause" when the data from across Europe shows that the highest drug-induced death rates are in Finland (very rich) and lowest in Romania (pretty poor).But equally, much as it might fit my anti-SNP bias, it's not enough to just blame the Scottish government for the much higher death rates. England has greater deprivation, and there is equally shambolic government across the other three government in the UK (NI didn't even have a government for some years!), and yet the death rates are significantly lower across all of them. What happens to the Green-SNP relationship? Is the Scottish electorate going to massacre the SNP at the general election as they previously massacred the Lib Dems, Labour, and Tories? Will Labour ever bother learning the lessons of the SNP's early years: that there is a desire for assertive, social democratic European style government in the UK electorate? Can the Scottish Tories ever do anything right?

poly

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Posted by: tjagain

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accusing the UK leadership of a “generational fumble”

that's the sort of antics that usually makes it into the Sun!

Posted : 13/04/2026 1:06 pm

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I really wanted to like Jeremy Corbyn I thought he had principles. I really wanted Your Party to be more than a flash in the pan. I don't like Jeremy Corbyn so far as Scotland is concerned he has no principles. Your Party never even reached "flash in the pan " status.

Posted : 13/04/2026 1:35 pm

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Posted by: scotroutes

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Sturgeon, who served as an MSP from 1999 until the dissolution of the Scottish parliament earlier this month,

That would be news to her constituents given she's been MIA since stepping down as FM.

She was in holyrood for the assisted dying debate at least - voted against in the end Grrrrrrrrrr

Posted : 13/04/2026 1:40 pm

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Posted by: scotroutes

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Sturgeon? Grifters gotta grift.

How did she personally grift?

Posted : 13/04/2026 2:55 pm

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