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But from what I’ve seen he’s not really played like a traditional seven
Well he's the right shape and quick. He wouldnt be prominent at the breakdown if he's playing 8 would he..chicken and egg. At international level you need to be the right type of athlete for your position to make it.
Yes you do, but you also need practice in that position. a second thinking time means you won't win the ball at a ruck, it's got to be totally instinctive, and that you get from playing the position.
So, Exeter, as I really don't mind where you end up in the league, please start playing him at 7, with Slade at 12 and Nowell at 13. That'll do me nicely!
Lolz@ idlejhn
AA - and we gubbed England so surely Wales are the best NH team and thus being beaten by them is no disgrace?
AA – and we gubbed England so surely Wales are the best NH team and thus being beaten by them is no disgrace?
Of course!!
Although I still think playing the dirt trackers v Italy is a risk!
Scarlets 0 Leinster 0 at half time.
Big win for Italy U20s there! Given how little rugby they're likely to have played at school level, that's a huge result. Wales looked clueless in comparison.
Scarlets 0 Leinster 0 at half time.
10 all at full time
Double red for the French U20s, apparently.
https://twitter.com/greub1/status/972227820402470912?s=19
Quite right too looking at that - complete disregard for where the player lands.
That looked like something the WWE would ban. Red for Harrison for sinners as well. Helped by Catt 's immediate complaint which I kind of get, but it wasn't especially edifiying. Remember when headbutting a prop meant you would need eyes in the back of your head for the rest of the game?
Brilliant! Anybody who gets the London Times take a look at the scrum section. When it gets to talking about Scotland it uses a graphic to show how we like to play quickly and uses 4 slides as an example. The caption on one is "Owens gets in the way of the defence." Lads,lads, get over it! 😁😁😁
Predictions?
England by 5
Ireland by 15 ( although I would love to see Scotland stuff them out of sight)
Wales with a technical knockout in the 79min after loads of turgid shite
Tip tackles seem popular in u20 games. Here is some English thug getting a red for one!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NAyA53Lk7Ik
Who’s the English player? Anyway, both the above clips are red cards.
cant believe the press is still doing a ‘we was robbed’ England were out played and out thought. Simply didn’t deserve to win however one eyed you look at it.
hope for a response today but I really think that the lock at 6 debate has been settled. I was alright with laws / itoje there, but they really, really aren’t in the same league as a decent back row. Tough as nails, won’t take a backwards step but just not used to scrapping over the ball in each ruck.
oh yes, it’s the same back row as before. I suspect the French will do is then.
He didn't need to wait for the card there. Should have just taken himself off for an early shower straight away.
Predictions?
England by 20
Ireland by 5
Wales by 10 after 70 minutes of utter shit
Oh, and the French U20s had clearly been inspired by someone. Wonder who....?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fTVhckB3juk
Who’s the English player?
Ross Moriarty
The Ire Sco game seems a real clash of styles. Will Scotland be smothered? I thought Ireland have got away with games they didn’t really deserve to win twice so far this tournament, but can Scotland put it all together 2 games in a row?
Blade Thompson looks like he'll fit right in at Scarlets!!
Yes you do, but you also need practice in that position. a second thinking time means you won’t win the ball at a ruck, it’s got to be totally instinctive, and that you get from playing the position.
This. Simmonds may well look like a seven but he's not played no there. My understanding is that the the most effective sevens rely on instinct an awful lot and really understand when to tr and Jackie and when to leave it. This is gained from experience of which Simmonds has little or none of now he's been used at eight.
Managed to find a VPN! How did Jones blow that!!!
I’ve only seen 2 minutes - a missed touch from a pen, and a butchered try. Not what Scotland need today
Pass of the century from Jones there!!!
Good game this.
Well that was a good half to watch.
Ireland attack looking sharper than I’ve seen for a long time.
still not much between all the home nations imo.
"Ireland attack looking sharper than I’ve seen for a long time."
Ringrose makes a big difference to the options they have.
Am I right that a BP win seals the championship?
No, but England will also need to get a BP win.
Butchered another one !
Sloppy passing has cost them three tries by my reckoning. Still, at least they have one now.
Looks like Ireland have the title.
Firstly, from a Scotland fan, we’ll played Ireland. The better side, by some way, won. And good luck in the Grand Slam game next week.
Secondly I thought Wayne Barnes deserves a lot of credit. Got pretty much everything right, didn’t go running to that silly TMO thing every few minutes, explained his decisions well and talked calmly but firmly to the players, calling them by their Christian names and treating them like adults. To which the players seemed to respond well.
And finally Scotland. Not a bad game by any means and had a few key moments in the first half gone the other way it may well have been a different game. While this fast tempo game is great I can’t help thinking they are maybe being a bit too ambitious at times. The interception try and the time on the right wing early second half. Both instances where they went for wild passes where the simpler one would have been better. But still, good times to be a Scotland fan. Pleased to see Kinghorn have a good game too. He’s been excellent for Edinburgh this season.
Overall though well done Ireland.
Its the hope that gets you *sniffs*
Well said Kenny. I can't disagree with that
Quite a good game for the neutral to watch. Especially the first half when Scotland were in it for a wee while. Ireland comfortable throughout though really and them winning never looked in doubt.
Looks like Ireland have the title.
It must be clear what England have to do to win now, what results do they need?
They did look worryingly good.
Not needing the TMO every 2 minutes was refreshing. Excellent match and Ireland have some fine younger players in their squad + a never ending supply of flankers.
must be clear what England have to do to win now, what results do they need?
They have to win and score four tries in Paris.
They have to win and score four tries in Paris.
And then is it a straight whoever wins in England v Ireland wins the competition, or do bonus points in that game/match points or whatever, come into it?
Good to see we've sorted the issues at breakdown.........
T'eo (spl?) Still leading in to tackles with his "injured" arm, I see. That padding must be awfully good...
It's going to be Ireland's title, we'll not be scoring four tries here, I doubt we'll score one at this rate. If we win it'll just be because we're less shit than France!
We appear to be playing exactly where France want us.
But I really like PoC as a neutral commentator, btw.
One of the backs really has to straighten up the running lines. Only Te’o is doing that, and May in open play a bit. Especially as the French get tired, pick a forward and run at the inside shoulder. England are offering more than France, but not by much.
Think it’s fair to say that the title is Ireland’s.
We’ve been poor this year and have failed to address the issues atvtye breakdown or generating go forward without Billy.
Where the hell was the backrow then?
England still look punch drunk after Scotland, perhaps the we always win in the end belief is missing, though an unpredictable France and penalty conceding England male for a hell of a game,good save in the corner hopefully
I can't quite understand England. It didn't work against Scotland so let's do exactly the same thing against France - where it's also not working.
Bizarrely at this point England could still technically win the title or get the wooden spoon. Both unlikely mind you.
I can't be bothered to edit that but well done Ireland. I hope England can learn a lot from this.
Fine effort to not score another there!
Good performance from Ireland, not many mistakes and didn't let the Scottish forwards play the way they did against England. Despite Scotland making the wrong choices and throwing shitty passes when the score was on, I have a feeling Ireland probably would of edged that regardless. Well done.
Things are looking interesting in Paris now. Right decision on the card and the try?
True anything can happen but the drunk Irishman who told me an hour ago Ireland were champions might have nailed it.im sure the Manchester Irish festival was rocking earlier but slow as far as this game is going
Dull but interesting first half. Turning into a cracker of a match now though.
Three potential cards in one France arrack. Cutting jumpers support away, Cole all over the ball, high tackle.
Interesting....Farrell 10 Teo and JJ in the centres now
Pretty much as I said; dominated at the rucks. Again. It looks like Eddie has lost the plot.
England just aren’t very good at the moment. Shit every game so far and have got progressively worse.
hopefully this weekend puts the Scots “England weren’t bad, we are just brilliant” arguments firmly to bed.
the French deserved every bit of that win, I hope they enjoy it.
oh dear
More sh1* than France. I didn't see that coming. Hopeless at the rucks, though the AP teams haven't rucked all season either.
Bravo Ireland, deserved winners this year.
England were just utter poo.
Stay classy wrecker, YOU and the rest of the master race are the ones who build yourselves up. Still; with all this practise maybe eventually you will learn to lose with grace, eh?
Bollocks.
What do England need more than anything else?
A proper “up and at ‘em” openside.
I like Robshaw and his endeavor, but playing Lawes as a flanker with Robshaw tells a story.
The French wing (Grosseau?) is a bit of a find as well.
Chill out ducky. Wreckers right. England are shit. Scotland played very well but it doesn’t mean that England didn’t play shit.
what I don’t understand however is why England appear to be worse than they were 6months ago, and why we insist on playing 6’s and 7sevens out of position. It simply doesn’t make sense.
what does though is that the entire AP has decided you can’t ruck and can’t get turnovers. This appears to be reflected in the national side. The issue is, no one appeared to tell the rest of the nations!
Yup CFH, Ireland clearly the best in the championship. Worthy winners.
Well how much can England lose before the press and fans turn on Jones? Cant wait to see the little shit get booted. Much as I am naturally drawn to wanting England to lose seeing the gobby shite Aussie lose is even better!!!
Still you can all laugh at me tomorrow when Italy beat our dirt trackers!! What goes around comes around!
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Stay classy wrecker, YOU and the rest of the master race are the ones who build yourselves up. Still; with all this practise maybe eventually you will learn to lose with grace, eh?
Presumably you two have previous as otherwise, duckman, it is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">you</span> who is coming across as a dick.
England are ponderous at the breakdown. Heaven only knows what the ABs would do to us at the moment. New arsehole anyone?
We've basically come full circle now under Jones haven't we?! No idea at the breakdown, no backrow and can't score a try. It's like it's 2015 again.
No history as far as I’m aware of. Nothing wrong with my class, Scotland just aren’t as goood as they think they are and neither are England. It’s as simple as that.
Ireland by 15 ( although I would love to see Scotland stuff them out of sight)
🙂 I’d like to thank anti-rugby, the donkey Stockdale and a MOTM performance from Kearney for today’s 6N clinching win.
To be fair, Scotland's performance in the 1st half probably deserved more than they got from that game - but the 2nd half was dominated by Ireland and I don’t think Scotland can have much complaints about the result. However, I await TeeJ’s staitistical analysis to show that it was pretty much equivalent other than on the scoreboard.
I had a sneaky suspicion France would nick that. Crikey though - 16 penalties?! Against France?! They only have themselves to blame. What did you guys think of the penalty try?
Penalty try - Peyper chose that moment to penalise a marginal tackle ( on the shoulder, man stooping) with a PT and yellow. There were far worse high tackles all day and he let them go. The 1st collision of the day Daly got clothes lined - nothing.
France deserved the win though - we looked toothless.
the donkey Stockdale
Still a donkey, reminds of that big donkey ireland had before Shane Horgan!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5XxWIM127Bw
and a MOTM performance from Kearney for today’s 6N clinching win
Obviously didnt have to try and tackle George North!!!
Havent seen the game yet actually...well done and all that and fingers crossed the donkey winger scores a hatrick next week and Kearney in MOM again!!
Penalty try – Peyper chose that moment to penalise a marginal tackle ( on the shoulder, man stooping) with a PT and yellow. There were far worse high tackles all day and he let them go. The 1st collision of the day Daly got clothes lined – nothing.
I thought it was pretty harsh myself.
Anyway, enjoying being champs with a game to play. I think EJ needs to trot out an experimental side next week. 🙂
[RankingsMeanNothing]I believe those results put Ireland into No.2.[/RankingsMeanNothing]
Well done Ireland. They've been the most consistent team of the home nations since the autumn.
As for England? Utter dog shit. Jones appears to have fallen into the same trap as Lancaster; playing his favourites no matter form, position etc. The worst thing is that the problems of the last game weren't fixed and low and behold, they rear their head again. God knows what Ireland will do to us at the breakdown next week. Looking like the bottom half of the table for us and deservedly so.
I thought it was pretty harsh myself.
I thought he was lucky not to get a red, would have been a year ago but the latest thing is obviously not high tackles.
It was a stupid tackle but I’ve never seen a red card for one of those.
It was a stupid tackle but I’ve never seen a red card for one of those
I agree it would have been harsh but for a while last year it was the latest big thing!
Whisper it quietly, but Eddie did pretty much the same at Australia.
Maybe, just maybe, he's not all that.
You are right wrecker, Scotland aren't that good, we are dirt track bullies, beat France, England and I would assume Italy.
Scotland aren’t that good, we are dirt track bullies, beat France, England and I would assume Italy.
Only at home!!