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*Unpins grenade*

Wales are all short arse pot noodle miners with two left hands and 6 fingers on each all coated in butter and gatland smells of wee

*ducks and covers*


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 10:46 am
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TJ - that was my convern previously; there's not a huge amount of heft which I guess is why Te'o is back so soon.

Lawes has been carrying pretty well this season but he's no Billy. Simmonds is small, quick and makes yards using those attributes. Mako will be expected to do a fair amount of the grunt I expect.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 10:58 am
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Not a good look on your day off when the Irish captain and starting 2nd row head to the rape trial of former? teammates in court...


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 11:44 am
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Is it Te'o who has that ridiculous armguard?  I wonder if someone will protest it


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 11:47 am
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SA have sacked Allister Coetzee - I'm surprised that he lasted as long as he did, although I appreciate that their problems are far bigger than the head coach.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 11:57 am
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With all England’s injury issues, and long term views, we should have gone with a young Lions team v Italy. More rest for the established players & blood some new ones.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 12:06 pm
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It's about winning though and winning as well as possible given the importamce of bonus points etc - there are a couple of positions where I think eh needs to look at other options; scrum half and full back mainly due to form and age. Neither Care nor Youngs are tearing up the AP and Brown is getting on a bit.

I do wonder if George will get a start this tournament - Hartley's days must be numbered now.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 12:12 pm
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I’m amazed Robson hasn’t got near the national team. Considering how well the 2nd string did on tour in Argentina last year Id  like to have seen a bit more of that.

Do you have to declare a squad for the 6N, or can you completely change it week to week?


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 12:14 pm
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Been pondering the Wales injury situation.

Williams
North
Tyler Morgan
Davies
Amos
Biggar
Webb

Much better backline than the one we are putting out.

Add in Faletau, Warburton and Ball to the pack and I would be confident of beating Scotland. As it is we look screwed.
England bemoaning injuries but only really Vunipola and Daly are first choice losses. Our entire back line is second choice


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 12:20 pm
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Aye and if we had Nel, Fagerson. Dickingson, Brown, etc available in our front row?


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 12:39 pm
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Thats a hell of a set of forwards for England, there's some heft and carrying in there.    I can see Nowell on for May and JJ for O'Teo in the second half.  O'Teo's self admitted/financed fitness is going to be tested for sure.

I can see this Team being very much the same vs Ireland to be fair, having played themselves in a bit.  Of course I'm hoping to be at that match.

I'm excited, I've got a restful weekend to watch all the matches.


 
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Do you have to declare a squad for the 6N, or can you completely change it week to week?

Jones has to select and elite player squad which basically dicates the core basis of what he can selet from. Robson is included in that but never gets picked.

I agree that the press banging on about England's injuries are a bit misleading it's not 18, its Billy, Hughes and Daly. And Marler being banned is the other name missing. The others like Slade, Roko etc are bit part players yet to cement themselves in the first team.


 
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<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 16px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Neither Care nor Youngs are tearing up the AP </span>

i must disagree with this; Care has been absolutely exceptional this season.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 1:49 pm
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"Aye and if we had Nel, Fagerson. Dickingson, Brown, etc available in our front row?"

I'd still be confident, not sure but confident, of a home win.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 2:52 pm
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Really AA?  cos I would be very confident of a Scotland win.  I still think we will win without them as apart from front row we have better players in most positions / units

Wales main advantage as it stands is front row especially bench

we will know in 24 hours


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 3:15 pm
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This is a telling stat "Scotland scored 41 tries in 2017 - four more than England and 24 more than Wales"  Mind you I wouldn't like to see the tries against  stats 😉


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 3:30 pm
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Come on then - money where your mouth is! Score prediction time! 🤔


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 3:39 pm
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Wal 25 - 22(BP) Sco

France 8(BP) - 15 Ire

Italy 10 - 33(BP) Eng

So Eng 5, Wal, Ire 4, Sco, Fra 1, Ita 0.

Lets see where the eggy faces are on Monday!


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 3:44 pm
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Scotland 28 Wales 20 Scotland BP


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 3:49 pm
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"I still think we will win without them as apart from front row we have better players in most positions / units"

Yes but if we had Faletau, Warburton, Webb, Davies, North and Loopy Liam they would be better than their Scots counterparts...assuming Liam on wing, Hogg a better fullback. But we havent so Scotland most likely to win.

Predictions.

Wales 15 Scotland 28 (late wales tries to make it look like a contest)
France 10 Ireland 22
Italy 3 England 32


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 4:01 pm
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TJ - you seem to have forgotten its a tournament of 6 teams!


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 4:05 pm
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NO great view on the other games.  England will win but not very well say 24 : 10.  Ireland to beat France in a tight low scorer say 14 : 9


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 5:05 pm
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TJ assuming that only Scotland can score tries again... 😉


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 5:25 pm
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Eh?  14 pts is two converted tries, 24 pts is 3 and a penalty etc  anyway Scotland are the most prolific try scorers in the recent history of the 6N teams 🙂

I am perfectly prepared for my egging tho 😉


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 5:34 pm
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<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 16px;">TJ assuming that only Scotland can score tries again… 😉</span>

Interceptions!


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 5:38 pm
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Not been getting so many recently CFH either Scotland or Glasgow.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 5:40 pm
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I'm only joking...its too easy!

I'm just deflecting from what I don't think will be a good tournament for England - not looking forward to Murrayfield if I'm honest.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 5:49 pm
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I don't think you need to worry too much.  I think England have the power  to stifle Scotland


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 5:57 pm
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This thread needs more Gav it was his birthday yesterday


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 6:48 pm
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I could watch Henson all day!

My predictions for the weekend:

Wales 31 Scotland 14 (after Scotland have a player sent off).

France 23 Ireland 13

England 51 Italy 11

Unfortunately, I fear Scotland may live up to the year after year hype and win away from home 😉


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 7:14 pm
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Nah this thread needs more ~Finn


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 7:26 pm
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TJ, I think I must be really blinkered because for me there was far more exceptional rugby in the 2 min video of Henson in a single game against England; than in the 9 min video of Russell from numerous games. To my uneducated eyes, Russell looks good but Henson is special.

I am struggling with the build up of excitement about tomorrow’s W v S game.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 7:41 pm
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Have we had the “bad weather will suit Scotland’s opposition” comment from TeeJ yet?


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 7:46 pm
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OK maybe the thread needs more of this then

https://twitter.com/johnbarc86/status/824007302239940608


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 7:51 pm
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I don't think in this game it will DD - both teams will want a dry pitch and ball


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 7:54 pm
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Henson is the definition of wasted talent. If he could have been managed he’d have been one of the worlds best. The same way fans of rugby talk about BOD, McCaw, Wilkinson, Johnson, Lynagh, etc.

Mercurial is tagged on to players like Michalak, Cipriani, or it should read “often shit”.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 7:57 pm
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We dont need your fancy pants running ten. We've got the ginger messiah and his bigboot!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pf-VbiWRNWk


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 8:24 pm
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AA - not scared by that - we have the unerring Finn on our side


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 8:37 pm
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You pair determined to talk down your chances! Being a long standing England cricket fan, TJ, I know what you mean, it’s the hope that kills you! Do Scotland yet actually believe they can win the 6N?


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 10:13 pm
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"Do Scotland yet actually believe they can win the 6N?"

Small possibility which is more than we have had for a generation.  I think England will be too powerful for us and Ireland too stingy in defence. Ireland we might beat, England I very much doubt.

the problem is that for the first time for a long while we have realistic hope of winning mtches and winning well.  We have in the last couple of years started beating teams ranked above us regularly, climbed up the rankings to a heady position we have never had and last 6N won 3 games for the first time for decades plus a demolition of Aus home and away.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 10:18 pm
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"You pair determined to talk down your chances! "

Not really TJ seems confident and I think he should be. I am hopeful that a team with second string backline and missing some key forwards can at least play some decent rugby. Looking forward to it.

Bg the way anyone know whats going on with the roof. Thats usually a good source of media driven shitstorm


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 10:21 pm
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I am fairly confident in my head but not my heart.  Its been a painful few decades as a Scotland fan.  We haven't really had a competative team since 2000.  Now we have.  3 wins in the six nations last year and last year was the first time for a long time we beat teams ranked above us with more than a backs to the wall defensive effort.

Its an uncomfortable place for a scotland fan - to have realistic hope.  I mean most pundits don't have us as underdogs for Saturday even.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 10:42 pm
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Roof closed which should help a good running game.  I think the real losses for Wales are Loopy Liam and Webb.  By far the two most dangerous players the last year or two


 
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The problem I have with Scotland is that people I know have been talking them up for years. There’s  always an excuse then when they lose. If they win they’ve slaughtered the other team. I would really like them to do well, but I fear they may not win as many games as last year.


 
Posted : 02/02/2018 11:26 pm
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" I think the real losses for Wales are Loopy Liam and Webb. By far the two most dangerous players the last year or two"

No the biggest loss is Faletau by far our best player along with Warburton.


 
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