We just need these clowns gone.
That could be the tagline on almost anything they say.
so yougov have the Tories 27 pts behind in their latest poll
But...but...he managed to cut inflation watched as inflation fell slightly! And he's going to stop the boats! And he bombed some forriners!
Did he really think that another winter of people struggling to heat their homes and pay their mortgages was going to lead to an upturn for the Tories?
That Coffey moment - dunno whether to laugh or cry.
That Coffey moment – dunno whether to laugh or cry.
She gets 84K a year plus about 200K in expenses. So, a cool quarter mill for that. Does that help you decide?
Coffey is absolutely embarrassing.
Surely someone called her out on this (respectfully obvs!) in the house? If not, why not?
The whole cabinet has been stuffed with absolute dimwits for years. Coffey is just the latest to show her ignorance
Rishi is giving a press conference shortly. I suppose it'll be the usual pointless exercise, where he says absolutely nothing. I'm guessing this will be 'We're stopping the boats' and taking credit for the fall in boat crossings that is entirely down to the weather
She gets 84K a year plus about 200K in expenses. So, a cool quarter mill for that. Does that help you decide?
And a vote on whether to send refugees to a country she doesn't even know the capital of. Yes, all in all, I think it's seething anger I'm feeling right now, but that's been largely the same since 2016.
*sigh*
As predicted, he said absolutely nothing. He's like a walking vacuum
He made reference to the Lords 'frustrating the will of the people' and 'Take Back Control' within the first minute. FFS! They're just going full Brexit/culture war again, aren't they? Can't see it working this time around, mind. It is literally all they've got left
will come to nothing but still funny to see them backstabbing
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1747911058910503208
So the UK PM has just announced on live radio that he will breach happily International Law.
What have we become?
frustrating the will of the people
Guess he's not seen this morning's polls then. Or noted the fact that he couldn't even get endorsed as PM by his own membership.
If he's interested in 'the will of the people', perhaps he should seek an electoral mandate of some kind?
So the UK PM has just announced on live radio that he will breach happily International Law.
And that he will also change legislation to force civil servants to break international law.
Its very exciting to have a new 3 word slogan though: Start The Flights. Appearing on a lectern soon
So 30p Lee didn't rebel because people were laughing at him and the Tories........
For the sake of balance, so are the so-called moderates in the Tory party.
They all said that the Rwanda bill goes too far and that they can't endorse breaking international law, then when required to do so, they all march through the lobby and vote for the bill that goes too far and that endorses breaking international law
The whole lot of them are spineless ****s completely unprepared to do anything that might jeopardise their own cushy lifestyles.
Sunak could propose getting Royal Navy submarines to start torpedoing migrant boats in the channel and when it came to the vote they'd all ultimately endorse it
What have we become?
A (bendy, not straight) banana republic.
And that he will also change legislation to force civil servants to break international law.
Genuinely considering chucking my 20 years in the bin if that comes in. I'm lucky, I've only got 12 years to retirement and can look elsewhere in the meantime. Most civil servants can't afford to have principles.
Still hits the mark:
Genuinely considering chucking my 20 years in the bin if that comes in.
HIghly7 unlikely - It would go to the courts and they would strike it down. You cannot order someone to break the law. the unions will protect the staff
It would go to the courts and they would strike it down. You cannot order someone to break the law. the unions will protect the staff
That is actually all that Sunak wants to achieve now:
'Look at our lovely Rwanda policy, defeated by the woke blob of lefty judges, civil servants and unions!'
It's just setting up an electoral attack-line.
So 30p Lee didn’t rebel because people were laughing at him and the Tories……..
The far right always turn out to be the real snowflakes.
While Lil Rishi was making his bizarre and pointless speech, Transport Secretary Mark Harper was busy salting the earth and lifting the restrictions on the use of land purchased for HS2, no doubt that now reclassified it can be flogged off on the cheap to their mates
Transport Secretary Mark Harper announced today that restrictions preventing the development of land earmarked for the now-scrapped section of HS2 have been lifted.
The Cabinet Minister officially ended safeguarding for Phase 2a between the West Midlands and Crewe, meaning land on the route can be developed in a way that would conflict with building the high speed railway.
In October last year, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak axed plans to extend HS2 to Manchester, to save money which could be spent on other local transport schemes. At the time, the Department for Transport said safeguarding would be lifted “at the earliest opportunity”.
Railway consultant William Barter described the decision as “ludicrous” and an act of “spite”, saying it would make it harder for a future government to reverse the decision not to extend the railway.
"Oh look, an Otter"
Mark Harper was busy salting the earth and lifting the restrictions on the use of land purchased for HS2, no doubt that now reclassified it can be flogged off on the cheap to their mates
What's annoying is that Labour could put the brakes on this by announcing that one of its first acts in government would be to revisit the viability of HS2, and, if they decide it's worth reviving, they would be legislating to take back any land sold off in the interim below market rates so the project could go ahead.
Doesn't commit them to anything, but developers aren't going to be buying parcels of land that they could make a loss on almost immediately.
I wonder who'd buy the land? I'd be wary of buying it to develop on, since you'd end up sinking money into planning that might be wasted if it's bought back. On the other hand, if it's going to be bought back you might want to speculate on it.
Stupid Hunt:
Asked whether it was irresponsible to cut taxes when debt as a share of national income was close to 100%, Hunt said: “It depends on how you fund the tax cuts. If you fund them by a significant increase in borrowing then you are just sending the bill to future generations.
“If it is through inherent growth in the economy – and you can still see debt falling over a five-year period – it can be very pro-growth.”
This is so clueless as to be absurd.
1) tax cuts are never ever funded. It simply means less money is deleted from the non- government sector. So more money in your pocket theoretically.
2) he's saying you can cut tax through inherent growth. Well there's no growth currently and second *debt* can't really fall and have a tax cut at the same time, all things being equal, unless they choose not to issue bonds, which given the weak resolve of modern democratic governments over markets is unlikely.
3) future generations never pay government debt down. It's not possible for the system to work that way.
Either way pre-G.E tax cuts are probably on their way. (We knew they would come back to this eventually.)
I'm loving Coffey trying to style her dumbness out.😆
https://twitter.com/theresecoffey/status/1747964647355854893?s=20
. On the other hand, if it’s going to be bought back you might want to speculate on it.
you can bet Ben Houchen & the other grifters have that all worked out
All they need to do is put a clause in the sale contract saying if it is compulsory purchased withing X years then try are guaranteed to get their purchase price plus Y percent increase per year of ownership. That will get everyone snapping them up and put a big complication in getting it all back
That will get everyone snapping them up and put a big complication in getting it all back
Given the sort of person interested in it then the obvious counter would be for Labour to say "any purchase of land will come with a free detailed tax inspection".
I see Sunak is claiming this is the "will of the people". Think it is only fair therefore for all MPs and Lord to support it.
Of course to double check bearing in mind he was the third best will of the tory membership let alone the people we should have a GE to confirm.
More Great news for Rishi's economic miracle...
Retail sales in Great Britain plummet as Christmas shoppers cut back
December figures show biggest monthly fall since shops were forced to close during pandemic in 2021
More Great news for Rishi’s economic miracle…
It'll be Agnes, Babet, Ciaran, Debi, Elin, Fergus, Gerrit and Henk's Fault!
Gonna be trouble in the lords over the Rwanda bill<br /><br />
Ruth Davidson: Rwanda deportation flights are 'probably never going to happen'<br />Speaking to the BBC, the former Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson has said there “are dogs in the street that know” deportation flights are “probably never going to happen”.
She told the broadcaster:
<br />Let’s have a debate about immigration, absolutely. Every sovereign nation should be in charge of who comes in; not everybody has a right to go to every country in the world – I completely get all of that.
But where is the balance in this, rather than some of the language that is being used, some of the knots that people are getting into?
And this thing about putting people on planes to Rwanda. I mean, there are dogs in the street that know that, one, it is probably never going to happen. And two, if it does, it is going to be a number so small that it makes very little difference to the bottom line.<br />Davidson is in the House of Lords, where both the treaty with Rwanda and the safety of Rwanda bill will need to make progress in the next couple of weeks before Rishi Sunak can make another attempt at getting his deportation policy off the ground.
I'm not always a fan, but Polly Toynbee is probably bang on in this mornings Guardian
Sunak is praying for the Lords to block the Rwanda bill – so he can blame the left
This whole thing was never meant to actually work. Its just some dog whistle, culture war nonsense to try and win voters back from Reform. It'd probably the best thing for the Lords to just wave it through and say 'crack on then'
Then instead of the tens of thousands of brown people that Reform-voting, racist dimwits imagine being herded into the back of huge transport aircraft to be packed off to Africa (Suellas Dream?), when a half-empty 737 takes off and Rishi states 'job done', lets see how they react to that?
Just another reminder of the evil of this current government:<br /><br /> https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/18/home-office-resumes-asylum-hotel-evictions-despite-freezing-weather
Rishi is presently trying to pretend he cares what happens in Port Talbot when they close the blast furnaces
He genuinely sounds really sincere in his concern. Honest. Like he even knows where Port Talbot is?
A journalist on Five Live is presently pointing out that the continuation of UK steelmaking was supposedly one of these 'Brexit Dividends' we were all going to be enjoying
Rishi is presently trying to pretend he cares
Whilst he swims laps of his heated pool?
Pipe down Taffy
https://twitter.com/hanwo0dward/status/1748303866083393619?t=h2nDs8i53jDCAqbWY_HwGA&s=19
I'm pretty sure that I read last year that the Govt was going to hand over quite a huge chunk of change to persuade Tata to stay at Port Talbot?
Edit: some googling later Here's the Sky article
That's just Drakeford playing the it's all Westminster fault.
Dunt is excellent
I really like Dunt's writing and speaking (I first encountered him on the remainiacs podcast)...I'm really interested to see what he'll be like if Labour get into power.
That Ian Dunt article is superb. His conclusion absolutely nails Sunak and everythign he represents, such as it is...
He's an empty shell of a man, presenting a package of vacuities, without moral substance to sustain him or meaning to motivate him. And if you watch him closely, you can see it all deflating, slowly but surely, into the nothingness which he truly represents.
stumpyjon said:
That’s just Drakeford playing the it’s all Westminster fault.
1 - since when was UK industrial policy anything to do with the Welsh Govt
2 - it's Westminster that is paying Tata £500m to move to electric furnaces
3 - what makes you believe otherwise?
Pipe down Taffy
He has been busy meeting with the general public and explaining how he would fix the NHS. At least he would if it wasnt for the pesky deep state dragging him away.
Sunak laughs in the face of a woman who challenged him on the NHS.
Absolutely horrible, entitled, little man.
which is that kind of thing, day after day after day.
Not necessarily.
Man of the people Johnson stayed way away from any people who werent carefully selected.
It depends on whether the media decide to call it out or not.
A Brownian motion no less.
A Brown moment no less.
At least he waited until he was back in the car rather than laugh in her face!
Man of the people Johnson stayed way away from any people who werent carefully selected.
It depends on whether the media decide to call it out or not.
If the opposition parties have any sense, popping some more polite questioners like this lady into his vicinity would produce some absolute gold. The bloke is phenomenally tetchy, clearly dislikes the public and has a short fuse.
He's a little prince. He doesn't think anyone has the right to challenge him and he regards any questioning of his right to do whatever he likes as a personal affront
The most worrying aspect of his obvious Napoleon Complex is that he thinks this extends to ruling by decree, as we saw at yesterdays press conference. I genuinely don't think he really gets this whole democracy lark.
Like Johnson before him, he regards himself as 'World King'
The bloke is phenomenally tetchy, clearly dislikes the public and has a short fuse.
Short-arse bloke syndrome
Having said that, the full video shows him rejoining conversation and then ending with a handshake rather than him just turning his back and stalking off. Still laughed in her face though!
This whole thing was never meant to actually work. Its just some dog whistle, culture war nonsense to try and win voters back from Reform. It’d probably the best thing for the Lords to just wave it through and say ‘crack on then’
It can't work, and if you listen to some pundits, even Cruella didn't expect it to happen, let alone Sunak. By all accounts no private airline will touch these flights with a bargepole for fear of poor publicity. The RAF have said they need £x million pounds to secure any airfield they'd use for these flights (as there are likely to be protesters) which Cruella when she was Home Sec could have easily found down the sofa but didn't.
They are just hoping those 'woke' commie Lords can be blamed for it. Failing them, the UN if they kick up a fuss.
All the more reason to pull out of the European Court of Human Rights so we can remove UK citizens rights so they can make more of a profit out of us ship a few dozen people there.
And… when did “the people” vote for anyone proposing this “stop people applying for asylum in the UK” policy anyway? Remember, this isn’t about off shoring the application process, or deporting people whose application has failed, it is about denying people who have made it to the UK the chance to apply for asylum in the UK at all. And, none of us voted for it. Not a single member of “the people”, only Conservative MPs.
Wales Government have published a thread of all the ignored letters they've sent to Kemi Badenoch / UK biz dept requesting meeting to discuss Port Talbot
https://twitter.com/WGEconomy/status/1748352678567039298?t=bvkQqu1H13eW0ZnerQxY8Q&s=19
Klunk I find the “will of the people” rhetoric quite worrying it has the exceedingly smelly whiff of fascism about it (given that it’s so patently not the will of the people in the slightest).
They've got form for this. I posted this on FB in December 2019...
Running with "will of the people" when you're the 3rd prime minister since the last election and your entire supposed mandate comes from a disgraced leader and a manifesto which has been completely abandoned at least twice and you were elected into your position by literally nobody because you got beaten by a cabbage the time before and so they set it up so you were unopposed and didn't even have to get a majority of the .3% of the electorate that got to choose the last one...
Well it's bold, at least.
The lords have blocked the Rwanda bill with cross party support. Thats it dead now
The lords have blocked the Rwanda bill with cross party support. Thats it dead now
You sure? they can kick it back to the commons to vote again/amend, but once the bill has been ping-ponged between the houses a few times, ultimatley the commons can still vote it through, I'm sure it happened with one of the brexit bills IIRC.
It's been '...delayed to allow more scrutiny' so definitely not dead.
As for future progress, I think mr fez is correct; after bouncing between the two chambers, it will finish up in the commons for a final vote.
That's where it will either stand or fall before the legal challenges start.
I understand the delay motion means it cannot be enacted for a year at least. It has to go back to the commons, the amendments voted down, back to the lords. Sunak has to find parliamentary time to do this IIRC this can be done 3 times? Anyone a student of commons proceedure? Ernie?
for all practical purposes its dead as there is not enough time left in this government to do it is my understanding
IIRC this can be done 3 times?
I belives that's correct.
for all practical purposes its dead as there is not enough time left in this government to do it is my understanding
I didn't consider this, but yes I think that's a tactic thats been used before, causing so much delay that eventually it's out of time to do anythng about it... presumably if it's delayed long enough for the tories loose thier majority in a GE, Labour can squash it, or amend the crap out if it to make it meaningless before voting it through.
Not going to happen with the current tory majority in the commons though, so delay is the name of the game?
This is exactly what he wants though
He can now blame ‘Enemies of The People’ and go full fascist! The worlds most pathetic, dweebiest little wannabe fascist
As he gets more and more desperate I fully expect to see him put pulling out of the ECHR front and centre of the Tory manifesto
I fully expect to see him put pulling out of the ECHR front and centre of the Tory manifesto
Highly likely as I expect that to be the price Reform demands for stepping down in tory constituencies
The Mash absolutely bang on about the ‘will of the people’ issue…
When I say 'will of the people' I mean about 60 ****s sitting behind me, explains Sunak
This is exactly what he wants though
He can now blame ‘Enemies of The People’ and go full fascist!
He has a very short memory!