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I’m punch my iPad in a minute. Once again a Tory prime minister talking absolute shit.
Oh and apparently we are way ahead in offshore wind...... what about not being able to sell any contracts in the latest round?
I don't think I've ever listened to such utter shithousery!
And delivered like he's talking to a class of primary school kids
this is why i am listening using my work computer, i know i won't throw it at the wall.
Getting bloody close though
Why do you guys put yourselves thru watching the odious lie ?
hahahahah watching on live on iplayer - little box comes up in the corner saying:
Contains langauage that may offend
Too ******* right!
Because it is important to pay attention.
Even if I do want to cut his tongue out
Oh and apparently we are way ahead in offshore wind…… what about not being able to sell any contracts in the latest round?
Apparently nobody bid on these as they all take it as read that this lot are done and when theres a labour government will be much more receptive to renewables. Why bother dealing with these idiots now, when you can just hang on 12 months and they'll be gone?
Patronising little shit!
Ok, well he has actually announced one positive thing on the boilers. I'm shocked, but this renting thing he is about to announce is utter shit as the renters have to pay the extra fuel bills instead of having a warm house.
****ing ****, dick bag, shithouse. Go **** yourself!
WTF is he on about, taxing meat?
I've just scrapped this thing that I just literally dreamt up this morning to scare everyone
Improving the auction process...... wonder why
So we don't need to make any sacrifices but we'll still meet the target! Woo 🍻
@binners instead all he will do is make trade deals that let cheaper meat into the country to screw the farmers instead
Pork markets innit
Green future fellowship?
Are they taking a carbon ring to mordor?
Assume rishi is one of the hobbits
Everything he has said is just pragmatic, there's far too many people in here that live in a bubble. I'd love to see the policies and ideas from a number of posters and to see how you juggle the chess pieces..
"We won't take the easy way out"
Except that he literally just did.
Said it before but you'll know when they finally realise that they've lost the next election, when they go from just being crap to frantically smashing everything they can while they can. Their last months will make this stuff look like nothing.
BillOddie
Full MemberI think you’ll find Shitsville is in West Virginia, it’s twinned with Dudley.
Shitsville is in NW3 London, according to the song anyway
lol kicking the can down the road is pragmatic, leave it to someone else to fix is pragmatic now. Blimey who knew. 😕
Ironic considering the privileged bubble rishi lives in.
The only way to achieve net zero is to focus on helping those who can't afford it. He hasn't done that other than one item on boilers.
Taking the requirement of landlords to better insulate houses is penalising renters who struggle to pay for their fuel bills.
Rishi knows who pays his bills
It's not kicking the can down the road, it's realising that you will not achieve the goals on the path you are on, electric propulsion being one of them. It's all too easy to think of your own circumstances and ignore others where the demands are different, that transport, heating and other energy vectors.
It’s not kicking the can down the road, it’s realising that you will not achieve the goals on the path you are on, electric propulsion being one of them.
Absolutely. If a target is hard, get rid of the target.
It’s all too easy to think of your own circumstances and ignore others where the demands are different, that transport, heating and other energy vectors.
Buying new cars is something for rich, most people (80%) buy 2nd hand cars
Sunak looking out for the richest 20% of car buyers helps the rest how?
. Increasing the number of new ev's now and in the near future increases the number of second hand ones for those less able to afford new cars to buy
Vapour.
Total lack of political will. Passing the book to the consumer. Linking things to the cost of living - when that in itself is a failure of Tory government.
Be very interesting to see how this unnerves Labour. Because this is designed to put some ground between them.
(OMG a referendum on net zero. Say that won't happen.)
Kimbers by your own argument he's actually looking out for those that need the 2nd hand car market to afford their mobility as the trickle down... something you are not getting with EV for a number or reasons. So no, not looking after rich.
And can you stop it with the positivity shit, I am generally not a positive person
😍😍😍
Lol he gets a bit flustered doesn't he with his book leafing.
Absolutely. If a target is hard, get rid of the target.
Very popular with this lot.
See Braverman and her detention centres. Inspections throwing up all kinds of terrible things happening?
Simply stop the inspections! Job jobbed!
Buying new cars is something for rich, most people (80%) buy 2nd hand cars
Sunak looking out for the richest 20% of car buyers helps the rest how?
Someone’s got to buy them initially , to create the second hand cars 🤦♂️
WTF is he on about, taxing meat?
He seemed to mention a few things that had prob been mentioned in one meeting, and announce they were cancelled. Seven bins?
Any change to the auto industry is always fleets and comfortably well off first, feeds the secondhand market in a few years, bottom end of the market comes last. Big risk here is a wobble from investors means the infrastructure won't happen as quick as it would otherwise.
something you are not getting with EV for a number or reasons.
Which are?
The car industry's been working to a 2030 deadline so will have based their long term plans on that. While the ban may not come into play until 2035 there's a chance that the vehicular offering by the manufacturers themselves could well be all electric by 2030 anyway.
Of course e-fuels will be on the rise by then once they work out there probably isn't enough precious metals in our planet to make batteries for all these new electric cars. Maybe that's what Sunak's banking on?
Don't see why they can't ensure every new home is electric only and has some kind of provision to generate and store its own electricity too.
Second hand electric car prices are very appealing now and compare favourably at purchase price with their equivalent ICE cars. There are a number of cheaper models coming through. I strongly believe in five years everyone buying a car will have a viable electric car option on the secondhand market.
Transition costs money we all know this but this government has stripped all of the basics of a functioning country to a broken level. Without the basics in place (health, local government, police etc) we have a difficult problem in how do we fund the basics and support the nation to transition to net zero. The 'Insulate Britain' people who are hated by the Mail and Express should be given more air time, a lost decade in this area puts us further on the back foot. The costs are difficult to manage because this government has squandered our prosperity. They should be helping make this happen but they have screwed everything up, so if it is pragmatic to say that you cannot have a better country because we have ****ed up then maybe he is being pragmatic. But what is happening is that millions of homes will not be upgraded when they should be, we will continue to import vast quantities of energy and the poor will continue to pay through the nose to keep warm in their homes.
The man is a ****
Don’t see why they can’t ensure every new home is electric only
That's the bit I don't understand. Thousands of houses are being built all around me. All gas boilers, no solar etc. Conversion costs will be down to the owners/government in a few years.
it's just trying placating his climate change denialist looney back benchers and moronic gbeebies viewers and hoping to win a few votes for the up coming by elections (ULEZ a gogo).
surprised he hasn't thwarted and imaginary invasion of the Falkland Islands too along with monitoring the number of
passengers we have in our cars (probably didn't have a donor who was in the manikin trade) 🙂
“Renewable energy is unpredictable and expensive!”
*promptly hands the UK’s energy and fuel policy to the Kremlin and Saudi Arabia*
Of course e-fuels will be on the rise by then once they work out there probably isn’t enough precious metals in our planet to make batteries for all these new electric cars. Maybe that’s what Sunak’s banking on?
efuels will be for toys for the rich, the fuel will be so horrendously expensive per litre that no one else will be able to afford it. It’s also greenwashing.
lots of new EV batteries don’t need precious metals. Lithium, yes, but nothing significantly rare.
The trick with the EV batteries will be three things
1. Longevity and reliability with the amount of charge/discharge cycles
2. Replaceability - physically getting to them in the vehicle
3. Reuse/Recovery/Recycling of materials
The auto industry is working on all of these
You can keep informed without listen to them a doing yourbp no good😜🤣
Of course e-fuels will be on the rise by then once they work out there probably isn’t enough precious metals in our planet to make batteries for all these new electric cars
Yeah that was worked out several years ago.