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“Renewable energy is unpredictable and expensive!”
I love hearing this from the usual suspects - ie: climate-change-denying loons and Russian gas suppliers.
I live across the valley from a huge windfarm. You can count the days per year they're not moving on the fingers of one hand.
And windfarms are presently the cheapest and fastest to implement form of energy generation
He's just echoing totally untrue tropes back to the gammons
Taking the requirement of landlords to better insulate houses is penalising renters who struggle to pay for their fuel bills.
What those landlords that rent out poorly insulated homes that are raising rents by 30% or more with no improvements? Those landlords? Give your head a wobble!
I live across the valley from a huge windfarm. You can count the days per year they’re not moving on the fingers of one hand.
That will be the days there is no demand as the grid has enough power for the demand that's there.
What those landlords that rent out poorly insulated homes that are raising rents by 30% or more with no improvements? Those landlords? Give your head a wobble!
Are you trying to say that taking the insulation requirements away is a positive?
once they work out there probably isn’t enough precious metals in our planet to make batteries for all these new electric cars
Do you honestly think some of the biggest and most effective manufacturing companies in the world have decided to fundamental change a huge part of their product without considering where the raw materials might come from? And you're the only one who's thought of it?
Rishi’s list of made up things…
https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1704522548648509467?s=20
On what planet was any of that a policy by any party? It'll play well with DM readers and the unbelievably thick but it has absolutely no basis in reality.
Landlords and insulation
There needs to be a carrot as well as a stick. It cost me thousands to insulate my rental .
On what planet was any of that a policy by any party?
George Useless was just on channel 4 news, trying to defend ‘the list’ that Rishi published as it was rightly described by Krishnan as ‘complete nonsense that he’s just made up!’
Don’t see why they can’t ensure every new home is electric only and has some kind of provision to generate and store its own electricity too.
shareholder profits! Could easily be legislated for.
It cost me thousands to insulate my rental .
Really, it shouldn't be possible to rent houses unless they're well insulated.
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Yes actually, as it's politically driven. Every OEM is fighting for the same resource hoping that there will be some magic new mines opening up in time... that, and they're all still working on ICE anyway..
Bob Seely taking a kicking on c4 news
Despite it being sadly predictable it was hard not be be slightly incredulous listening to Rish! proudly rolling back environmental protections (in contradiction to commitments made only this year not to do so) in the same week as have seen flooding in Libya and off the back of a summer of global natural events resulting from climate change.
As an environmental consultant it was infuriating hearing the very real concerns and challenges I have been trying to find solutions to being referred to in dog-whistle language to try to make it seem like they are the result of frivolous decisions. The trivialising and misrepresentation of the measures that will reduce the harm being done to our environment to the detriment of our children and future generations is dangerous and irresponsible but sadly it's what we've come to expect from this government.
Even if we are able to achieve our Net-Zero target following the announcement of these measures the slowing of the rate of carbon reduction will have a massive impact on our emissions up to that point resulting in a worse environmental outcome.
The government's own advisors have stated that the costs of climate inaction outweigh the costs of action, so it's hard to see how we will realise a financial benefit to these actions as a whole package.
Most disconcertingly I would only expect him to be making statements that he believes will provide them with political benefit by appealing to the electorate. I appreciate that as an environmental professional I may see these issues in a different light, but who is listening to this and seeing these actions positively?
Even if we assume that this is the action of a dying government lashing out we aren't going to get another until next year. Their failures over the last few years is resulting in any new government being left with such a shit storm to cope with that it's hard to see this bonfire of the sanities being undone much before the end of the next government term.
https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1704561667441307656?t=w_At_2tzuno-S5tpDdJAnw&s=19
they key here is how many of that 12.3% would swing back to voting tory, I suspect not many
The reason new homes use old technology in the UK is there is no legislation that says they have to use new stuff! All the laws are centered around planning permission ('can't build that here...' etc). Once you've got that, do what you like - the building standards were probably written by Persimmon and Barratt.
By the law of unintended consequences, the hashtag 'SevenBinsSunak' is now trending.
I see Toyota are supporting Rishi. Aren't they behind with EV products, they went all in on hydrogen so prob need a few more years to catch up.
*promptly hands the UK’s energy and fuel policy to the Kremlin and Saudi Arabia*
Okay, okay, Putin might have screwed us, but there's no way MBS would do that to us. It's not like Russia, a state that relies on fossil fuel sales to pay off an unproductive domestic elite and embarks on quixotic megaprojects at the direction of its increasingly batty authoritarian leader.
that, and they’re all still working on ICE anyway
Could I refer sir to the utterance by Ford motor Co. on X today which would imply that you would be incorrect?
https://twitter.com/mbrookerhk/status/1704536012356002045?s=20
There is going to be frosty atmosphere when lil rishi meets the king next week. Charlie’s speech in France was heavy on the urgency of action rishis less so we are truly ****ed aren’t we 🤯
It's going well for him. When chartered institutes start issuing mocking press releases you know you're doing something different. It's also becoming apparent that he hasn't actually cancelled policies anyway, merely renaming them so they appear different.
One of the announcements was to cancel making everyone have 7 bins, that relates to the waste collection consistency consultation that was ongoing. It's a position that the Conservatives implemented, tracing its origins back to the now Lord Pickles (former Tory party chairman) during his time in DCLG. But there has never been an announcement on the outcome and the indication was that this was never the expected result. The CIWMs response is fairly damning " It is probably a first to have a Prime Minister scrap a policy that hasn't been implemented and was never proposed in the first place. We have since received confirmation from DEFRA that the policy is still progressing, but is now badged as 'Simpler Recycling' ..."
They have really shit policy advisers. This kind of stuff was clearly only going to appeal to a narrow demographic, most of whom probably were core Tory voters anyway.
There is going to be frosty atmosphere when lil rishi meets the king next week. Charlie’s speech in France was heavy
on hypocrisy given the carbon footprint of Chucky and his family and that’s before you get the his entourage of servants and homes round the country along with his love of private jets
I have no issues with pushing this back. There is no way I’d want to buy a second hand Ev at the moment. If you buy a well serviced second hand car for 6 grand you can do so with a reasonable amount of confidence it’s going to be reliable. Unless manufacturers sort out the batteries. Or more importantly make them replaceable, any 10 year old ev you buy will be a complete lottery
not everyone can afford to, or will want to spend 20k+ on a brand new car. I have never bought a brand new car in my life, and have no intention to every buy one, I don’t use my car nearly enough to justify it. Eventually however I’ll be forced to buy a second hand EV, which and all the problems that is likely to come with it
have no issues with pushing this back. There is no way I’d want to buy a second hand Ev at the moment.
they're not banning second hand cars
They should have pulled it forward. Force the issue.
Shit house.
Okay, okay, Putin might have screwed us, but there’s no way MBS would do that to us. It’s not like Russia, a state that relies on fossil fuel sales to pay off an unproductive domestic elite and embarks on quixotic megaprojects at the direction of its increasingly batty authoritarian leader.
Hhmmm ... No, Putin did not screw UK. They have their own system. It was Boris that tried to prove himself by calling for sanctions (with the support from the US administration and then EU) against Russia. Well, that has backfired now big time. Petrol was £1.60/litre at Shell yesterday. Few weeks ago I said the price would not go down but others said no it had stabilised - yeah right. Problem with the West is that they are still clinging on to the idea that they are the "sunrise" while in reality it is "sunset" that started since the end of colonial and right to conquest days. But they still try to write the rules of the game, still insist on ruling the world, Still trying to impose on others (nation states, competitors etc). Well, once the other parts of the world find ways to wriggle out of the tentacles of US Petrol currency, that will be the day where you will see two world systems (no more monopoly). i.e. No longer be controlled or dictated to by US Petrol dollar. Yes, most say that's impossible as the developing and 3rd world countries have weak foundation ... errmm .... remember we were once hunters and gatherers? In the meantime, I don't see much improvement or stability for another a decade. Yes, non developed countries will suffer first but once they find a way out, things will be very different. When? I don't know.
At £1.60/litre, let's hope it does not go up further but I suspect it will go up further ...
Before I write anything longer - just what do you think sanctions are supposed to do? It sounds like you’ve got the wrong end of the stick about how they work.
I have no issues with pushing this back. There is no way I’d want to buy a second hand Ev at the moment.
Jolly good, how about in 2030 (or now 2035)?
He's just pushed back one of the few good policies Boris had, based on the flawed belief that a wafer thin win in Uxbridge meant DM readers want to burn the planet down. Whatever he said in his speech this isn't to save the diehard Mondeo Men from the terrifying financial burdens and personal indignity of owning a used Nissan leaf...
What the heck am I supposed to do with these 5 extra bins I’ve bought to comply with the Seven Bin Law?
This announcement seems to address policies that either never existed (7 bins, care share etc), or else were not understood (everyone has to buy an EV in 2030).
This announcement seems to address policies that either never existed (7 bins, care share etc), or else were not understood (everyone has to buy an EV in 2030).
There will be a DM article decrying some half-baked conspiracy about the horrors of sorting your waste into more than one bin.
The whole thing was about keeping the wizened old gits, that were probably going to vote Tory anyway, on side for the impending shitstorm of an election...
He just doesn’t care, does he? We were world leaders on this stuff, with the growth and green jobs that went with that, and, not satisfied with trashing the economy now, this ****ing lightweight has squandered that too.
I think people forgot that at the end of the day Lil' Rishi is a Tory, quite a Right leaning one too. I found it telling that he sent Cruella out on the radio rounds yesterday morning. Why would you use a rabid home secretary to defend a leaked anti-environmental policy rather than your environment minister? The answer is simple, he knows who he can count on to stay on message and who is fine delivering the rhetoric.
For now I'm choosing to believe Labour's relative silence is intended to let Team Rishi keep digging their hole, while SKS sharpens up some pithy one liners and unpicks the household economic claims, but my worst fear is they let this one slide because they might not full oppose it(?)
The problem is 11 months ago Liz set the bar so high in her act of financial vandalism that Rish! has had to look for something other than tax cuts to look strong.
Stomping down on the crusty, lefty environmentalists with their madcap crazy policies raising inflation I can only assume was his intention, but it seems to have been based off the noisy minority in the bottom half of the internet. The dangers of climate inaction are just so widely accepted that this has appears to be going down badly, but as an act of political vandalism it should be being viewed in the same light as Liz and Kwasi's post-coital budget.
and all the problems that is likely to come with it
Not as much as you think. As someone who follows this stuff a bit, the situation will be pretty different in 2030. But even then there would still be loads of used ICEs. In 2040 there's be loads of 10nyear old used ICEs on the road.
Exactly, and 17 years is a long time in car development. The EVs selling in 2030 will be different to those in 2023 and if buying a used car in 2032 if may well make more sense for majority of people to buy an EV but if they don't want one ten fine buy an ICE although who know what the petrol prices vs home electric prices will be at that time.
The EVs selling in 2030 will be different to those in 2023
The EVs being sold now are different to the ones that are currently 7 years old/100k miles today. The new ones are the third generation, build on dedicated EV platforms and with much better battery management. Many of the old EVs you get know have degraded batteries, but the current models will not degrade anywhere near as fast if at all. I firmly believe that in 10 years' time these cars will be a much better proposition than ICEs of the same age. The only thing we have to sort out is cheap charging for people without driveways. It's not acceptable that they have to pay 10x as much as people with driveways.
The whole thing was about keeping the wizened old gits, that were possibly going to vote Reform, on side for the impending shitstorm of an election…
FTFY.
This is stuff designed to appeal to the worst kind of traditional Tory voter, the rabid type that thinks the Conservatives are generally a bit soft on everything. Of course, the flipside is that these policies and the general air of incompetence are moving 'moderate' voters who would normally call themselves Tories to other parties, which is why the Conservative polling under Rishi has not improved from the calamitous Truss moment, despite lots of exciting anti-refugee rhetoric.
I wonder where Sunak's bin-phobia has come from?
the noisy minority in the bottom half of the internet
This is a good point - are Tories making the mistake of doing research on the comments sections of social media?
A few heat pump installers raising concerns today.
How long before the increased boiler replacement grant is available - because everybody will now stop installs until then.
If the budget hasn't changed, but the grant increased, that's less heat pumps.
This is a good point – are Tories making the mistake of doing research on the comments sections of social media?
think there are just believing their own uxbridge ulez rhetoric, hoping it will win them mid beds.
I don't think people realise how quickly commercial businesses will jump away from being in the petrol forecourt business. It is a dirty business with lots of safety protocols through the delivery chain. Businesses will transition to electric forecourts and as the EV mix increases the fuel forecourts will drop off. By 2035 we will be driving extra miles to get to one of the few petrol stations in our area. It will be drip drip and then there will be an exodus. Diesel may actually be the better bet as trucks will need that for the foreseable.
We were world leaders on this stuff, with the growth and green jobs that went with that, and, not satisfied with trashing the economy now, this **** lightweight has squandered that too.
Thats the mad thing about this. It makes absolutely no sense economically
So one thing we do now know is that he's as ideologically blinded by mad right-wing rhetoric and economically illiterate as his predecessor.
Who'd have thought that was even possible?
Our new international reputation is bedding in nicely though:
https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1704595777572515891