Again, appears like a desperate pre-election nugget for the voters they're hoping to hang on to. Probably given up on getting votes from anyone sensible.
I don't think it really matters what Rishi says, car manufacturers are already planning that far ahead, even if you're allowed to still sell ICE cars in 2031 stone age Britain I don't think many manufacturers will be making many by then. I think they may have woken up to the fact they need to get their fingers out and start investing in EV infrastructure and distributikn grid and they should have started 15 years ago.
On a side note I've just seen a load of gammon posts on the local Facebook group, the supreme idoicy displayed there and ongoing support for the Torys is just mind blowing. There really should be some sort of comprehension and awareness test you need to pass before being allowed to vote.
<So, more inflation, likely higher interest rates in 2024</span>
Not surprising one iota. They keep giving that lovely money to people with money.
Look at Japan - the only G7 country to not go on an interest rate splurge has the lowest inflation.
It will get blamed on a one off lift of wage inflation which we all know is bollocks, where we have seen the price of oil driving this yet again.
We really are in a mess.
And the Sunak green 'weakening' comments is just another angle to try and hang on to their core nut jobs - interesting to see how this pans out.
Somewhat predictably, it looks like he's got the desired reception from his target market of reactionary, climate-change-denying gammons
Brain-of-Britain Suella Braverman is presently being ripped apart over it on Radio 4.
She' described net zero targets as 'arbitrary' and had it pointed out to her that it was Boris Johnson who set those apparently 'arbitrary' targets, so did he just pluck them out of the air?
Cue... erm.... erm.... erm.... then repeating her obviously briefed line for this ..."we are putting the economy first"
She really is as thick as mince
I said many years ago that the 2030 promise would be kicked down the road and looks like I was right. You cannot believe the government on what they promise for this week so expecting promises made for 10 years time to be kept is somewhat delusional.
It's bizarre in some respects, one of the top rated comments on the Fails site is something like "I'll never buy and electric vehicle, not ever!". Way to go there really sticking it to the man.
Its like Brexit and immigration and all manner of other things. A dwindling bunch of pensioners saying 'if you promise to make the country a mythical version of 1950 then I'll vote for you'
The thing is that pandering exclusively to them is quite literally the law of diminishing returns, as there are less and less of them by the day
I love the way they say they are not abandoning the commitment to net zero by 2050 (yet) just abandoning all the things required to achieve it.
I wonder if the Tory strategists have now completed the private polling and number-crunching and now see haemorrhaging gammons to the likes of Reform as the main threat to a large number of otherwise safe seats? If so, we can expect a flood of culture war announcements to keep them in the fold.
I love the way they say they are not abandoning the commitment to net zero by 2050 (yet) just abandoning all the things required to achieve it.
Cruella did have that point made to her and it also pointed out that if you didn't do it now, you'd just have to do it more, further down the line
She didn't seem to get this. She's not very bright. She just kept parroting the obviously Central Office Approve Line ”we are putting the economy first”
No pointers about if the economy would be better off if most of it was underwater
Apparently Rishi himself is going to come out of hiding to announce this all today. Probably, without a hint or irony, after a carbon-spraying private jet flight to Yorkshire.
Ford UK have already said it risks undermining their business, which is working to previous policies, and indicates a lack of consistency and support from the government. So the car companies are already trashing it 🙂
”"Our business needs three things from the UK government, ambition, commitment, and consistency... A relaxation of 2030 would undermine all three," Ford UK
Apparently Rishi himself is going to come out of hiding to announce this all today. Probably, without a hint or irony, after a carbon-spraying private jet flight to Yorkshire.
He could use a good egging/milkshaking at this point. Hopefully Yorkshire won't let us down.
Alok Sharma - one of the rare remaining sane Tories - has also come out and trashed the proposals
https://twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/1704387079768035653?s=20
A relaxation of 2030 would undermine all three
But as @binners and @rone have suggested, despite Sunak saying we're doing this for the economy, he's not really taking to those folks. He's talking to the slightly unhinged retired idiots that are the Conservative Party members in the run up to conference season who want to hear that law breakers are going to be thrashed, other people's grandchildren are going to be forced to do National Service, something something blue passports...
He is also very good at predicting the future as not doing something planned for 2030 because of impact to the economy is bold when knowing what the economy will look like in 12 months is pretty difficult and far from an exact science.
Nobody knows what will be happening ion the world (climate change related included) in 7 years time and what those impacts to the economy will be but they are likely to be a lot bigger than whether new ICE cars can be purchased.
Conservative Party members in the run up to conference season who want to hear that law breakers are going to be thrashed
But obvs not those cutting down ULEZ cameras 🙂
He could use a good egging/milkshaking at this point. Hopefully Yorkshire won’t let us down.
Wrong bit of Yorkshire - he's an MP in the bit that will love this announcement
I really don't understand what is even the point of stirring up this shitfest on climate commitments? Why are they expending the limited effort on trying to undo commitments made for something 7 years from now, whereas the economy is already on fire, like now and needs intervention.
I really don’t understand what is even the point of stirring up this shitfest on climate commitments? Why are they expending the limited effort on trying to undo commitments made for something 7 years from now, whereas the economy is already on fire, like now and needs intervention.
Because taking serious action on the economy is hard and requires the government to acknowledge that:
1. Brexit is a pile of shite
2. Austerity isn't working
3. All this has happened on their watch
SO is never going to happen.
Playing culture was games and messing about with fringe issue related to drivers is easy. Its not surprising, what will be interesting is seeing how Labour respond.
what will be interesting is seeing how Labour respond.
Running striaght to the tory position. " we would do the same but better" as in every other labour policy
Running striaght to the tory position. ” we would do the same but better” as in every other labour policy
Yeah more than likely, depressing isn't it.
Its not surprising, what will be interesting is seeing how Labour respond.
stick with the current arrangements.
Labour's shadow chief secretary to the Treasury Darren Jones says the party is committed to banning sales of new petrol and diesel cars from 2030.
Speaking to LBC, he said: "We supported the 2030 target when the Conservatives introduced it into Parliament".
He went on to confirm that Labour would bring back the target to 2030, should the Conservatives move it to 2035, if they win the next general election.
though no position survives first contact with a focus group ! 😉
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66863110 Pushing back petrol car ban a bad idea, Ford tells Sunak
Well done PM Sunak! Woohoo!
Bye bye Ford.
Helloooo Toyota.
It looks like Starmer is getting a curve ball now on carbon emission ...
It looks like Starmer is getting a curve ball now on carbon emission …
Hilarious. If that's a 'curve ball' then Starmer really is on the home straight. Everyone but a tiny few nutjobs is supportive of the effort to reduce carbon emissions. If Sunak really is going to base his re-election campaign on US conspiracist reactionary policies then they're looking at wipeout territory. Bring it on.
Well we now know who Rishi's statement this afternoon is aimed at...
Some absolute dimwit Tory MP - Jason McCartney - has just been on the radio saying that electric cars are only actually bought by 'virtue signallers' and anyway some American companies are still planning on continuing to build big V8 petrol engines
Yes Jason... we should really be basing the UK's environmental and business strategy on what Bubba from Shitsville Idaho wants to drive around in 🙄
Who votes for these utter morons?
Who votes for these utter morons?
Over 66% of people where I live and I would be very surprised if it goes under 50% in next election as it never has in last 30 years. Even in 1997 the tory ****er still got 50.6%
Yes Jason… we should really be basing the UK’s environmental and business strategy on what Bubba from Shitsville Idaho wants to drive around in 🙄
I think you'll find Shitsville is in West Virginia, it's twinned with Dudley.
Some absolute dimwit Tory MP – Jason McCartney – has just been on the radio saying that electric cars are only actually bought by ‘virtue signallers’ and anyway some American companies are still planning on continuing to build big V8 petrol engines
Ahh good old paper-thin Jason. In the period he lost the Colne Valley seat he was some sort of political fixer/ public-affairs twonk for Huddersfield University - I work in sustainability and in a 1-on-1 with me he was saying how climate change was the biggest threat we have and that he was going to support us to make the changes needed... blah blah blah
He regained his seat and has consistently voted against climate measures needed. Including peat restoration when his constituency includes marsden moor
Over 66% of people where I live
Have you ever considered moving? It clearly hasn't had a positive effect on you. 😉
i think Sunak is just throwing out random hard right culture war policies to dee if any nove the dial on the polling
if the Tories lose all the coming byelections Sunak will only get more desperate, expect bringing back the death penalty, banning metric measurements, national service, closing the bbc or some combination of them all
The snivelling turd.
If he thought that eating his own granny would get him a couple of more votes he'd be off to her's this afternoon with a big pan.
This country has never ever been more in need of a general election - its sickening how they are allowed to carry on ruining everyones future with impunity
he's probably looking to cash out some BP and Shell stock in the near future so is looking for a price bump.
Have you ever considered moving? It clearly hasn’t had a positive effect on you.
I love living where I do. Very quiet area, own a lovely cottage, nice roads to ride on, lots of gravel roads.
The problem is that a lot of nice areas tend to be expensive and expensive can equal tory ****ers but I just deal with that by ignoring them.
And can you stop it with the positivity shit, I am generally not a positive person, some people are like that - we can't all be as optimistic as you are.
The problem is that a lot of nice areas tend to be expensive and expensive can equal tory **** but I just deal with that by ignoring them.
There’s a lot of tories in Galloway but I deal with them by showing my displeasure by having a sticker on my front door and car rear window that states “**** the Tories”
Shocked to look on the Electoral Calculus website my VERY safe Tory seat and find, with current polling, my MP is only a whisker ahead of Labour. I know things will be closer come the election, but the bugger may actually have to do some doorstep work this time around, and if people vote tactically (there is a significant chunk of libdem votes up for grabs), he may even be in a spot of bother.
Nice to imagine him losing some sleep over it though.
(Interestingly, Reform appear to be at 10% here right now. I can see why Sunak is pivoting right to try to protect this rump of safe Tory seats. It's not an election-winning aim, he knows that's gone, this is about damage limitation.)
The Haunted Pencil is presently on Radio 4, repeating Cruella's claims this morning that the net zero targets are 'arbitrary' and he then referred to Boris Johnson as a 'Net Zero Zealot'
Apparently we don't have to worry about reducing emissions now as we'll easily get there by 2050 because.... technology
He didn't go into any more detail than that. I suppose we can assume this is the same 'technology' that sorted the Irish border issue after Brexit
What an absolute bunch of ****ing clowns!
he then referred to Boris Johnson as a ‘Net Zero Zealot’
I love how he's gone from delivering them an improbably large majority, the saviour of the party, to some kind of soft left loon, in such a short space of time. Hopefully this kind of interview will poke away at the Tories' internal bleeding a bit.
I suspect that the whole reason for all this today is to head off an uprising by the climate-change-denying loons of the party membership and his own fruitloop far right backbenchers at the Tory conference next week
Meanwhile, everyone other than these headbangers states the bleeding obvious... that with this absolutely crazy anti-net-zero attitude all they're doing is further hobbling the UK economy and industry with stupid, short-sighted policies which will be catastrophic in the long term
So, speech at Downing Street at 4.30pm. Lectern watch underway.
Not sure that watering down a few net-zero promises justifies an outside Downing St announcement with no questions. And there are no major policy announcements, because the Conservatives have no policies.
Interesting.
binners - it was Karl McCartney on radio earlier; he is MP for Lincoln so just up the road from me.
He is widely disliked as a tory gobshite who will say and do anything to continue ingratiating himself with sunk and is so far up sunak's arse that a colonoscopy would struggle to find him.
His labour opponent at the GE will be Charlie Faulkener's lad, Hamish, who seems to be making good progress.
sunak is dangerous and useless; completely spineless and without a shred of any principles.
He could surprise everyone by getting to the lectern and saying...I've had enough so I'm off, see y'all.
I expect it's to announce his victory in the war on inflation, as evidenced by a 0.1% drop in the latest figures.
Apparently we are so far ahead of the rest of the world.
Lying ****, little ****ing weasel shitbag.
This has really pissed me off, we have the ability to do more so we should do it, this is nothing more than trying to keep his pay masters happy and weasel out of making any decisions.