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Well the Ministerial Code doesn't seem to carry much weight these days...
That supertanskii video is a hard watch. So depressing that she's not subjected to that abuse.
There's a lot of thin skinned people about and the veil of secrecy online emboldens people
Anyway - looks like another poor showing from sunak at pmq's. He even brought a prop today for one of his stock answers
If Sinak’s so happy with the results of his anti-refugee actions/stat manipulations, why is he bothering with the Rwanda nonsense?
The answer to that is obvious and the fact you are asking makes me suspect you are some sort of leftie lawyer who goes on about human rights.
We can all enjoy the panicked looks on the faces of Sunak and Starmer when asked what they think of Trump, though.
That's the upside... Trump being the downside, and the fact that if they're not actually full on panicking they've not fully grasped the situation.
But guessing they don't have to give the money back (after doing nothing at all) ?
Kagame has offered to pay back all the money to be rid of the scheme.
[ EDIT: I have no idea how much money he meant : link to Mirror : but then we don't know how much they're getting ]
Sunak waving around props at PMQs. Absolute farce...
Oh no...
EUROPEANS
HUMANS
RIGHTS
All things we're supposed to hate/fear? Thank god Rishi is here to save us from them.
[ link to the prop brandishing in PMQs via Joe ]
[ link to more of today's PMQs via Joe ]
'LOOK AT THIS BLOKE, A PUBLISHED EXPERT ON HUMAN RIGHTS LAW! WHY WOULD YOU LET SOMEONE LIKE THAT RUN THE COUNTRY?'
All semblance of contact with reality has been jettisoned. It's just a desperate, flailing mess.
The cherry on top is the Rwandan government, offering to refund us for the failed deal, showing a lot more grace and dignity than our lot. Absolutely humiliating.
actually the Rwandans have clarified that
https://twitter.com/matt_dathan/status/1747642143944937932
Very generous
So it's a bit like when my kids ask for a guinea pig/pick and mix at the cinema/to stay up late on a school night....
"I'll consider it..." = LOlz NO!
Exactly, very fair-minded. But I fully expect our government to honour the international commitment it made with Rwanda and not ask for the money back. After all, honouring international commitments is what this government is all about, no?
I'm genuinely perplexed about what he thought he'd get out of waving Kier Starmers publication at PMQ's.
He's waving evidence that the guy sat opposite him knows more about the subject than he does
It's either he's getting bum advice to do it, or he's ignoring good advice not to do it.
Either way he just sound like an idiot who thinks he's clever
So the Rwandan president has basically come out and said ‘guys… this is never going to work, is it? Do you want to forget the whole thing?’
Rishi has declined that offer and has decided to keep banging away with this completely futile exercise
Through desperate and crude the prop will have hit the mark with those in the country that he wanted it to.
Makes little difference though, they are already brainwashed Tory/Reform voters and it won't convert anyone else to this bizarre "crusade" of his.
It did seem bizarre.
‘you know the subject I’m totally winging it about? We’ll he wrote a book about it! Ha haaaaa!’
So Basically like the school bully trying to show up the school swot?
That might work, but not if you’re 5ft, built like a 15 year old female gymnast and a total ****ing dweeb
I’m genuinely perplexed about what he thought he’d get out of waving Kier Starmers publication at PMQ’s
He knew. Appealing to the base, rallying against those pesky defence lawyers ensuring people get a fair trail and the rule of law isn't subverted.
So if the Tories get to give international law a swerve, does that mean other agents of the state get a pass too? The law of armed conflict and Geneva conventions are a bit inconvenient. Asking for a war criminal friend.😉
He’s waving evidence that the guy sat opposite him knows more about the subject than he does
Experts. We don’t want them in government, knowing things we don’t. That Lee down the pub, the one with the loud mouth, he has some good ideas about foreign workers and work shy Brits. Pair him up with a hedge fund manager and there’s your team. Bish bash bosh… common sense and money sense… that’s all you need. What a team. Europeans? Humans? Rights? Who needs to know about that stuff anyway?!?
…does that mean other agents of the state get a pass too?
Laws are still there for the little people. No free pass if you don’t know a Tory MP who can get you on the VIP list.
Victoria Derbyshire has just absolutely savaged some Tory halfwit Tom Pursewell (no… me neither?) on Newsnight about them claiming to be the party of law and order while simultaneously voting to break international law
Then they put on the minister for the 18th century to defend breaking international law who just used it to plug his GB News show.
Both had it pointed out to them that even if they get this through they will send 200 people to Rwanda out of an immigration backlog of 100,000+ people. Also that this nonsense has so far cost the thick end of half a billion quid
… who just used it to plug his GB News show.
He did that on Channel4 News [yesterday?] as well. Do you think he gained even a single new viewer for his show with these plugs…?
I almost feel sorry for Sunak on this one… he only kept this policy as a favour to the ERG to stop them backing Johnson for another run at being leader again… didn’t he? Now so many of them are turning on him anyway… but he’s still stuck with it after he’s backed it so forcefully and publicly, before they ran off and left him carrying the can.
An unnamed ‘moderate’ Tory MP said that they never wanted this bill in the first place but they’re now all inner a 3 line whip to vote for it to stop it being defeated by the right wing nut jobs who pushed for it all song
Talk about the tail wagging the dog
@kelvin I don't feel a shred of pity for Sunak on this subject. He had the opportunity firstly as chancellor and then as prime minister to shitcan it if he actually wanted to.
Fingers crossed the lord's do the right thing.
It's depressing that I had to write that last sentence
Fingers crossed the lord’s do the right thing.
The lords don't have any real power, sure they can kick a bill back to the commons a few times, 3? and 'strongly ask' for a re-think/or propose an amendment...
But if the commons just say nope, and vote for it again every time, then ultimately the bill will pass...it happened with one of the brexit votes, I forget which one.
It’s difficult to really grasp what Rishi hopes to achieve with the huge amount of political capital he’s burning over Rwanda
Does anyone really think that a single person (other than a succession of Home Secretaries) will ever be sent to Rwanda?
Even if it goes ahead, they’ll pull us out of the ECHR, wreck the good Friday agreement, thus making the UK an international pariah and for what?
It’s absolutely nuts!
This is what the conservatives do to the country when they’re in power, a rather stark set of graphs
https://twitter.com/matt_miall/status/1747160543343804517?s=61&t=27Xz8oI3pGlaNEQvowJBcg
It’s absolutely nuts!
The lords don’t have any real power, sure they can kick a bill back to the commons a few times, 3? and ‘strongly ask’ for a re-think/or propose an amendment…
But they will get a lot of publicity, and I suspect that a lot of respected (within the party) Tory lords will make very eloquent speeches trying to explain to Tory voters why its so batshit crazy.
Anyway, the Beeb also reporting about the proposed change to the Civil Service code. I'm not in the Home Office so not directly affected by Rwanda, but the change will require any of us to break international law if a minister tells us to. I will be upsetting the union by asking for their thoughts on that this morning.
It’s difficult to really grasp what Rishi hopes to achieve with the huge amount of political capital he’s burning over Rwanda
It keeps migration as the number 1 topic in the news cycle ahead of all the real problems, even failure of the Rwanda policy keeps the focus on blaming others for the mismanagement of the economy and peoples suffering. He is basically policing the thread to keep the focus away from more difficult conversations.
This person helps govern us. Has a vote on important matters.
FFS
https://twitter.com/inglesongrey/status/1747740979233231251?t=0XCtcH_4lZm3AaHRRhQ5Kw&s=19
It keeps migration as the number 1 topic in the news cycle ahead of all the real problems, even failure of the Rwanda policy keeps the focus on blaming others for the mismanagement of the economy and peoples suffering. He is basically policing the thread to keep the focus away from more difficult
For sure and totally mirrored in this thread itself.
Im not so sure this is sunak dead catting himself to victory, people are well aware of the damage the last 14 years have done to the country.
this policy was only ever performative to appease the far right & head off reform
but turning the whole thing into an endless pantomime does no such thing
Sunak has simply backed himself into a corner
still at least we got this gem
https://twitter.com/michaelocyoung/status/1747771580011135024?t=14A-GapjDC0g1YHFle5MQQ&s=19
so yougov have the Tories 27 pts behind in their latest poll
DJI
Im not so sure this is sunak dead catting himself to victory
It won't allow him to dead cat to victory, but it does keep the focus away from just how bad the current financial system is for the majority of people, and stops the discussion on what changes should be made. We need changes that are not being discussed or raised politically, instead the focus is on where all the immigrants are.
He knew. Appealing to the base,
Yep, that was totally staged, and absolutely cooked up by the No10 media desk That clip along with the whole "I ban terrorists, he invoices them" line is going to be a Insta/TicToc/FB clip fo'shure.
We just need these clowns gone.
That could be the tagline on almost anything they say.
so yougov have the Tories 27 pts behind in their latest poll
But...but...he managed to cut inflation watched as inflation fell slightly! And he's going to stop the boats! And he bombed some forriners!
Did he really think that another winter of people struggling to heat their homes and pay their mortgages was going to lead to an upturn for the Tories?
That Coffey moment - dunno whether to laugh or cry.
That Coffey moment – dunno whether to laugh or cry.
She gets 84K a year plus about 200K in expenses. So, a cool quarter mill for that. Does that help you decide?