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Free MemberAnd where might his personal insecurity regarding his height (as you’ve suggested) come from?
Obviously a whole lot of different places. But it's false to identify it as definitely "personal insecurity". For some people, appearing big/strong is a desirable thing. Does Johnson lie about it from insecurity or is it the same as the cod latin, the intentionally messy hair- cynical image making and style over substance?
(this is a personal assumption, but, I think Sunak is perfectly comfortable with his size, in the same way as he's perfectly comfortable lying constantly, and perfectly comfortable with his lack of capability and understanding- confidence and arrogance are baked in. I don't believe he thinks "Oh I wish I was not so small, I will be mocked, I must stand on a box", I'd bet money he thinks "I am so clever and cunning, I can fool the stupid public by making myself look big like a cat, while killing their grandmas")
Yeah, we must remember to punch up, not down
What if he’s just bitten you on the knee?
Would you mock a Jewish person who happened to have a big nose
I would if I was a script writer for Family Guy.
Yeah, we must remember to punch up, not down.
It's true, poor old millionaire The Right Honourable Rishi Sunak, Member of Parliament and the Privy Council, and Prime Minister of His Majesty's Government of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland is far too vulnerable and should be protected from heartless jibes from impolite lefties.
Pointless to you, maybe. I’ve explained why it’s of concern to myself.
Comments about a politician's height are truly irrelevant unless, of course, you are choosing to take some sort of non-existent racial inference from them.
It’s true, poor old millionaire The Right Honourable Rishi Sunak
Multi millionare and once you add the missus more money than you can think of 500-600 millionsish.
He must employee someone to make sure he dresses down tbh.
Don’t think rich, think insanely rich.
Probably has a new pair of CK boxers out the box everyday 🙂
Comments about a politician’s height are truly irrelevant unless, of course, you are choosing to take some sort of non-existent racial inference from them.
I've explained why I have concerns regarding mocking physical traits. I think a good sporting analogy would be 'play the ball not the man'. One person well known for mocking the physical traits of others is of course Donald Trump. This is because he has no intelligent argument to make about a person's views or character. Such behaviour is the resort of the intellectually bereft.
I would if I was a script writer for Family Guy.
Many of whom happen to be Jewish. For many of whom, self-deprecating humour is part of their cultural identity. That clip is actually perfect in the context of this thread. Genius.
Comments about a politician’s height are truly irrelevant unless, of course, you are choosing to take some sort of non-existent racial inference from them.
Short height is very much a South Asian racial characteristic. In the same way as tight curls is an African racial characteristic. Would you mock an African-Carribbean politician's hair? Or indeed a Jewish politician's nose?
I might but then I'm not very PC, which is why I love Family Guy so much.
Family Guy
Amateurs compared to South Park.
dudeofdoom
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TBH in the covid times he could have bought an island and sat it out,I think I’ve mentioned it before but still can’t believe he’s not arsing it about in some Lambo or Ferrari.
True but he does have an RAF jet to knock about in currently.
(although apparently I have to wait till I’m 67 now which seems a tad unfair )
Not in London. Thanks to Boris......a politician who understood what demographics means.
The freedom pass for over 60s in London started under the GLC.
But upping the age of qualification for the Freedom Pass in London would have been electoral suicide. Boris relied very heavily on the over 50s vote.
The freedom pass for over 60s in London started under the GLC.
Yup, but it was funded by the Westminster government. The Tory government decided that the age qualification would rise on an escalator system. Johnson stepped in and said that the GLA would supply free oyster passes to the over sixties until they were old enough to qualify for the government funded freedom pass.
Gawd bless im
https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases-4784
STW – the refuge for some who want to make something out of nothing, repeatedly
Good to see another thread derailed by our utterly spirit-crushingly tedious, joyless and humourless professional 6th formers, determined to be offended by pretty much anything and everything
And ‘The Left’ wonder why everyone thinks they’re a bunch of utter ****s.
Let’s take a thread involving people who find the Tory party offensive on every level - including their height and trousers - and lecture them in the most patronising and condescending manner imaginable on their sins of idealogical impurity and moral unworthiness.
You’re like a really shit left wing Taliban
The last two Tory election victories are entirely your fault
*slow handclap*
people who find the Tory party offensive on every level – including their height
If you're offended by someone's height.....
Rwanda bounce doesn't seem too visible, tbh
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1735708707487465616?t=ziSn0WfvvDszZgegPiU_Dw&s=19
LDM: 48 (+40) - 11.3%
🤔 That doesn't make sense. It can't be +40 because it suggests up from 8 LibDem MPs.
The LibDems won 11 seats in the 2019 and currently have 15 MPs so I have no idea why they think 48 in +40.
You would expect a pollster to be fairly careful and precise with their figures.
TBH in the covid times he could have bought an island and sat it out,I think I’ve mentioned it before but still can’t believe he’s not arsing it about in some Lambo or Ferrari.
It's rumoured to be all about looking good to his In-Law's, before he was looked on as not really worthy of the wealth he married in to. Having a political career that puts him in power of a whole country changes that and is also why he doesn't really seem to be overly interested in doing any good with that power.
The LibDems won 11 seats in the 2019 and currently have 15 MPs so I have no idea why they think 48 in +40.
is it not because the seats they are competitive in are often 'blue wall' areas and the Tory vote collapse puts them in poll position for those seats?
a lot of the big g names in the tory party are based in these often home counties seats, be interesting to see what the Tory party would look like without them
Sorry I'm rubbish at maths and I don't really understand those figures but I very much agree with this:
be interesting to see what the Tory party would look like without them
Some people seem to think that the Tories have accepted that they will lose the general election and as a consequence don't care how badly they do.
I totally disagree, I reckon that they care massively. How badly they do will dictate how many years/election cycles it takes them to recover.
If Labour win with something like a 200 seat majority it will be a huge disaster for the Tories on many levels including because it will undoubtedly rob them of many of their big guns.
Which in turn will massively affect their ability to provide a credible opposition to a Labour government and seriously hamper their electoral comeback.
It seems to me that how big the Labour majority is after the next general election, even if they have a majority at all, will depend massively on how well Reform UK do. The better Reform UK do the bigger the Labour Majority.
Which begs the question as to why the Tories are pursuing the small boats/culture war line.
All the evidence, including across Europe, shows that when an establishment accepted right-wing political party pursues a hard-right/racist agenda any benefit doesn't go to them but their fringe far-right rivals.
What Rishi Sunak is doing by adopting the British hard-right/Farage agenda makes no sense to me. And since Sunak is no idiot I am genuinely baffled as to why he doesn't apparently realise that he is helping Reform UK.
The only explanation I can think of is that he is simply too desperate and an appeal to bigotry and intolerance is all that he has left. He seems to possess all the logic of an addicted gambler.
The 8 seats in 2019 are notional, reflecting boundary changes, etc., to estimate what the LD vote in 2019 would be worth against now constituencies.
Ah, I see a logic in that. Thanks 👍
Julius Fucik composed 'Entry of the Gladiators'; you all know the tune.
It should be re-named...Entry of the STW fun-sponges.
Ridicule encourages pricking pomposity and subversion. Masters of it like Hogarth, Spitting Image and Steve Bell made a great contribution to rebellious thought. The damage these people have done far outweighs a bit of ragging.
Now where's that sleep thread.
The 8 seats in 2019 are notional, reflecting boundary changes, etc., to estimate what the LD vote in 2019 would be worth against now constituencies.
Further to that - recent boundary changes are generally felt to be advantageous to the tories; they're (probably correctly) splitting some seats where electoral numbers are getting too high - ie: one MP for too many people so not reflecting enough of a say and making all constituencies roughly the same size in terms of numbers that MP represents. How they have redrawn boundaries of these splits, is possibly more contentious, although the electoral commission is independent - but it means that in areas where populations have grown (suburbs and towns for example) more seats will be created; in areas where population has reduced (big industrial cities in the main) seats will be reduced. Which types of voters live in each...... is why it's generally felt to be more advantageous to the tories, by about 5-10 seats.
Which is why doing like for like and estimating notional seats in 2019 has to be done. If you compared actuals in 2019 vs 2024 possible outcome based on polling without calling out that 5-10 tailwind it looks like tories are doing better than they are; in terms of actual opinion translated into 2019 style seats the tories would be losing more seats and giving away an even bigger estimated majority than the estimate above.
You would expect a pollster to be fairly careful and precise with their figures.
Seeing that polls like this are extrapolations of voting intentions from people who many of which will be lying, or more generously saying what they think that day and then voting something completely different there is not really any precision about them.
They do show the direction of travel though and it would be astonishing if Labour don't win the next election but there is no way they will get 300 more seats than Tories.
Seeing that polls like this are extrapolations of voting intentions from people who many of which will be lying, or more generously saying what they think that day and then voting something completely different there is not really any precision about them.
So long as you've got a representative sample and the questions are well-worded, they're amazingly accurate. 1000 well-selected respondents can be extrapolated up to population size very accurately.
On the other hand if you asked 10,000 poorly selected people, you'd get 10,000 answers that were meaningless.
It's why petitions are generally crap cos it doesn't show you how many people saw the petition and elected not to sign it (and it often doesn't show the questions or statement they were asked), it shows you the self selected group that feel strongly enough on one particular side of the argument to sign. They can also be very open to manipulation with false details (although online petitions can easily require verifiable identity info).
It’s rumoured to be all about looking good to his In-Law’s, before he was looked on as not really worthy of the wealth he married in to. Having a political career that puts him in power of a whole country changes that and is also why he doesn’t really seem to be overly interested in doing any good with that power
TBH I’d not thought about this but does make a lot of sense.
I’d really thought him more as a caretaker after the Truss panic but in reality he’s worse as she had a mad vision and went for it and he just doesn’t have any thing,even the clown prince had some charm to con the people but now we’re at the part he’s on the beach shouting at the boats and is now using all the power at his disposal to make a law that black is white.
It’s rumoured to be all about looking good to his In-Law’s, before he was looked on as not really worthy of the wealth he married in to. Having a political career that puts him in power of a whole country changes that and is also why he doesn’t really seem to be overly interested in doing any good with that power.
Don't forget his (supposedly) proud Hinduism, which will accelerate your sense of being a member of a superior, ruling class if you're at all that way inclined...and if you go to an elite English public school, you'll probably be inclined to it.
A thoroughly depressing article in the Guardian today about section 21 ‘no fault’ evictions. A 40% increase in the last 12 months, so homelessness is going through the roof.
The government promised to put a stop to it with a bill to give rental tenants rights. It was a manifesto pledge but they’ve now dropped it completely
I’m sure it has nothing to do with the number of Tory MPs who have portfolios of rental properties
A thoroughly depressing article in the Guardian today about section 21 ‘no fault’ evictions. A 40% increase in the last 12 months, so homelessness is going through the roof.
Yes, I think Toynbee is at her best when writing about homelessness and poverty. "Hard Work" is rather old now, but worth a read.
Rishi Sunak faces election wipeout even if flights to Rwanda take off, top pollster warns
Asked if the Tories would do better in the election if the PM manages to start sending migrants to Rwanda, the polling guru said: “The short answer is no. Yes, some core voters are upset (about immigration). But it’s not the core vote you need to win back – it’s those who are saying they won’t vote Conservative.”
Mr Sunak had blundered by not focusing on the economy and the NHS, he argued. “People are asking two main questions: ‘Can I afford to feed my kids?’ and, ‘If I fall ill, will the NHS look after me?’
Seeing that polls like this are extrapolations of voting intentions from people who many of which will be lying, or more generously saying what they think that day and then voting something completely different there is not really any precision about them.
Pollsters know about this though, just as you do, and they try to account for it.