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'cos it's just an opinion, some kind of intelligent wadding would help.


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 9:52 pm
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Ooh, where can I get some of this intelligent wadding? I could use some at work.


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 9:53 pm
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'cos it's just an opinion, some kind of intelligent wadding would help.

I'm game.

Science is supported by provable facts and workable theories (NB in science a theory does not mean a wild notion, to be counted as a theory in science means passing lots of peer reviewed tests with flying colours).

Religion is all about ignoring facts, as there are none, not a single teenie weenie peer reviewed fact whatsoever to support any religion.

I think that proves conclusively that religion and science are nothing alike.


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 10:04 pm
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Science is supported by provable facts and workable theories (NB in science a theory does not mean a wild notion, to be counted as a theory in science means passing lots of peer reviewed tests with flying colours).

Where did you get this pap from?


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 10:08 pm
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A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."[1][2] Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy. As with all forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and do not make apodictic propositions; instead, they aim for predictive and explanatory force.[3][4]
The strength of a scientific theory is related to the diversity of phenomena it can explain, which is measured by its ability to make falsifiable predictions with respect to those phenomena. Theories are improved as more evidence is gathered, so that accuracy in prediction improves over time. Scientists use theories as a foundation to gain further scientific knowledge, as well as to accomplish goals such as inventing technology or curing disease.
Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.[3] This is significantly different from the word "theory" in common usage, which implies that something is unproven or speculative.[5]

I got that pap from Wikipedia but all sources say much the same.


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 10:16 pm
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Posted : 26/07/2012 10:18 pm
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Advantage common sense and facts, SamCooke to serve.

P.S. Unreserved grovelling apology from SamCooke accepted.


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 10:21 pm
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Where did you get this pap from?

Probably from a big book.


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 10:23 pm
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Ah excellent. It appears CatholicDefense has published a reply to the original comic:

http://catholicdefense.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/a-catholic-reply-to-how-to-suck-at-your.html


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 10:28 pm
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Catholics, hmm, aren't they the the ones that persecuted Jews before Hitler was even a twinkle in his father's eye?


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 10:34 pm
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Well, the NAS definition is certainly fine, but that's not what you said is it. If it was, i wouldn't have called it pap.


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 10:46 pm
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but that's not what you said is it.

I thought it was. But I'm often wrong. Do point out the error of my ways please.


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 11:02 pm
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Would this guy be an example of one of those Christians who are all really nice and non-judgemental?

A senior figure in the Catholic Church in Scotland has claimed medical evidence suggests that homosexual conduct "is hazardous, is harmful, and is dangerous".

Mr Kearney went on to insist that medical studies had shown that homosexual conduct shortened life expectancy by up to 20 years.

-- http://news.stv.tv/scotland/112513-gay-behaviour-leads-to-early-death-catholic-church-spokesman-claims/


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 11:13 pm
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Scientific theory is supported by facts, science is the organisation of ideas into verifiable constructs. Science and scientific theory are not interchangeable


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 11:21 pm
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Scientific theory is supported by facts, science is the organisation of ideas into verifiable constructs. Science and scientific theory are not interchangeable

That's different to:
Science is supported by provable facts and workable theories (NB in science a theory does not mean a wild notion, to be counted as a theory in science means passing lots of peer reviewed tests with flying colours).

In what way, exactly?


 
Posted : 26/07/2012 11:30 pm
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Gosh, what have we here....

Oh, it's this [i]again![/i]

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Posted : 27/07/2012 12:25 am
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Only one thing causes a war , greed!
Check out the British, invented concentration camps during the Anglo-Boer war. Not Germans or Japanese.
Diamonds and gold discovered in Transvaal and Orange Free State.
Lord Kitchens decides I'll have some of that, 'In the name of queen Victoria' of course.
So you go to war!
I think if you want to name and shame a few of the bad guys you should look a little closer to home.

Also remember who who abolished the slave trade, that was a nasty narrow minded religious man who 'Found
God'!

Darwin died alone.


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 6:03 am
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What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Faith and belief in the super natural is a legacy brain state of the more evolutionary basic human mind.


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 6:11 am
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I'm assuming observer status... 😉


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 9:10 am
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Ah excellent. It appears CatholicDefense has published a reply to the original comic:

From the Catholic article:
I’ve already gotten two e-mails from people who had friends share it, [b]and who wanted to know how to respond.[/b]

You couldn't make it up, could you? Don't people know how to think for themselves?


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 9:27 am
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Although an atheist myself, I invariably find most people who espouse to be atheists are in fact anti christian bigots.


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 9:31 am
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I had a brief conversation about Christianity with a guy who stated he was Atheist ... strangely he said he preferred spending time with 'religious people' (as he called them) as he found them more genuine and trustworthy.


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 9:45 am
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Religion is all about ignoring facts

No, creationism is all about ignoring facts.

If you're going to argue something, please make at least some effort to understand the issues. It really helps.


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 10:00 am
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You couldn't make it up, could you? Don't people know how to think for themselves?

I like the way he started his response by encouraging you NOT to read the original comic 😀 Yay for critical thinking.


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 10:22 am
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Posted : 27/07/2012 10:59 am
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Also remember who who abolished the slave trade, that was a nasty narrow minded religious man who 'Found
God'!

You’ve not read the Bible have you?

Read Leviticus 25:44-46 where there’s an assumption that you will buy and keep slaves - who should serve their Christian masters especially well (Ephesians 6:5)! Exodus 21 does put in certain safeguards for them though, regarding the severity of beatings , which should not injure their eyes or teeth!


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 11:01 am
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Leviticus? Don't think Christians arrive on the scene for another 2000 years or so...


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 4:39 pm
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It seems to me that all the people getting their knickers in a twist over this comic are doing so because they think it is having a dig directly at them personally.

It's not. It's not having a dig at all religious people, just PEOPLE WHO SUCK AT RELIGION.

The could all be solved by adding a final thought. "if you think this comic is about you, you also suck at religion."


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 5:30 pm
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And...

OMFG that catholic article linked to before is bat poop crazy.
> http://catholicdefense.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/a-catholic-reply-to-how-to-suck-at-your.html
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They seem to think that; complaining that the comic is oversimplistic and misreperesents all catholics; whilst in the next paragraph stating that stem cell research is akin to being Joseph Mengele is a reasonable thing to do and not at all hypocritical. Weird.


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 5:35 pm
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this could all be solved by Jebus and God hosting a Jeremy kyle-style TV program.


 
Posted : 27/07/2012 5:36 pm
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http://www.jesusandmo.net/


 
Posted : 28/07/2012 9:41 am
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No, creationism is all about ignoring facts.

If you're going to argue something, please make at least some effort to understand the issues. It really helps.

What has creationsism got to do with anything? 😯
We're talking about athesists.
Atheist does not equal creationist. 🙄

Which isssue do you think I don't understand then?


 
Posted : 28/07/2012 11:27 am
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We're talking about athesists.
Atheist does not equal creationist.

Which isssue do you think I don't understand then?

😆


 
Posted : 28/07/2012 5:31 pm
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Posted : 28/07/2012 6:16 pm
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Posted : 28/07/2012 7:25 pm
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the man is a god


 
Posted : 28/07/2012 7:30 pm
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Oral history? 😉


 
Posted : 28/07/2012 7:40 pm
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What has creationsism got to do with anything?
We're talking about athesists.
Atheist does not equal creationist.

Which isssue do you think I don't understand then?

:mrgreen:

Sitting in the car off on our travels after posting, chatting shit with the other half, moaning about the general lack of education and intelligence of the general public (and this thread), repeating the post I responded to the missus says, "Don't you mean evolutionism"? Silence from me as the gears slowly whirl.

😯

Bugger, he didn't say 'evolutionism' did he (as every religious nutter does), he said 'creationism'. Much hilarity and ribbing from the missus and youngest. 🙄

Oh well, should anyone post a similar argument and use the word evolutionism as I read, and not creationism as it actually said, there's my reply all ready and waiting. Sorted.

😆


 
Posted : 02/08/2012 2:40 pm
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What helmet to wear to midnight mass?

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Offers protection mostly from being smite in the head. However there is no evedence to suggest it stops you being smite in the rib cage


 
Posted : 02/08/2012 2:58 pm
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Fair play for the explanation; you had me scratching my head I must admit; I was wondering if it was some strange subtle irony that I couldn't fathom out...


 
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