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Is it ethical to make a collection for someone and to have a leaving party for someone who is leaving due to redundancy and it looks like theyre going to get quite a bit of cash from the company.

I say just say goodbye, and theyre gone, others want to make a collection.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 6:44 pm
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if one person and they do dont want to go then yes

if loads and /or they chose it no

This assumes they are just a colleague and not a friend


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 6:45 pm
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That "quite a bit of cash" will soon go if they have a family, house and no job! We went down to the pub at lunchtime on my last day and I didn't bother going back to work afterwards.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 7:58 pm
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Whatever payoff they get is irrelevant as to whether you have a collection or not - and whether you want to pay into it.

Did you like them, did they do a good job, did they help you - all reasons to put into a collection.

Alternatively - did you hate them, they made your life hard etc - all good reasons to not put into a collection.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 8:02 pm
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just say goodbye

This


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 8:05 pm
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deadwood employee in a safe position milking it for years or decent employee you will be sorry is going.

leaving do for the deadwood i would be 'playing tricks' 😀

leaving do for the decent employee, i would be gutted and help as much as i could with future employment prospects 😉 it could be you next.

in fact the way the world is i would be trying to help them both, you never know whos toes to kiss and whos toes to tred on


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 8:07 pm
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Put a couple of quid in the envelope, sign the card, wish them well on their last day and stop being so ****ing bitter.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 8:17 pm
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What ourmaninthenorth said.

From personal experience, I can say the dude who's being made redundant is almost certainly not the winner of this situation.

Also, I'd have liked a leaving present. Instead, I got "well, see ya!"


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 9:25 pm
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did you like them? yes/no


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 9:28 pm
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A collection is a way of saying goodbye and showing appreciation for the person, from the staff- whether they got a redundancy payment should make no difference at all imo

If you're all being made redundant, all I can recommend is don't be the last to leave, you get to donate a load of times and you get **** all back.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 9:29 pm
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They had a collection for me just before I left my last office, I owed the pot £25


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 9:41 pm
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Unless you own the company, for you the fact that the employee is being paid off is irrelevant surely?

If you like the person, put into the collection and sign the card. If you don't like them, don't, but to my mind it would have to be quite a deep dislike to be churlish enough not to put in. The cardinal offence in my book is to sign the card without putting in. Quite a few people I know do this and it boils my piss!

Life's too short.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 7:33 am
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If the person is being made redundant because they were shit or generally unliked- no I wouldn't do a collection.

If they were good, its sad then YES. WHO CARES HOW MUCH REDUNDANCY THEY GET?!!! Thats compensation for losing their livelihood.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 7:35 am
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I think a collection is outdated, just a pub lunch on the last day and a card is plenty.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 7:43 am
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A collection is a way of saying goodbye and showing appreciation for the person, from the staff- whether they got a redundancy payment should make no difference at all imo

+1


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 7:48 am
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"The cardinal offence in my book is to sign the card without putting in. Quite a few people I know do this and it boils my piss!"

so if you dislike someone or are ambivalent toward them, would it be better not to sign at all? (not being sarcastic) (for once)


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 8:24 am
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The cardinal offence in my book is to sign the card without putting in. Quite a few people I know do this and it boils my piss!

How do you know they don't put in? They tell you? I dunno, what you put should relate to what you think of them - but always nice to wish them well on the card.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 8:55 am
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Don't recall getting a card when I got made redundant. Was with about a dozen others though. Had been there quite a while too, but a general collection for so many was maybe frowned upon?


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 8:56 am
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It's people putting a few coppers in which gets me, I mean really WTF!


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 9:08 am
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Is it ethical

You're over thinking. As others have said, if someone leaves and you like them, contribute. I never contribute to leaving/birthday/wedding/child born collections but that's a personal choice based on a few companies where every single day there would be a collection for something.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 9:11 am
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It's always struck me as a bit weird that there's generally a whip round for people leaving, presumably for a better paid job, but not for those made redundant.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 9:15 am
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guff.. if you ve enjoyed working with someone, tell them to thier face one to one. it means far more. 50p toward a pressie and a card from clintons doesnt cut it. the person who benifits most is the person who goes to get the gift they get an hour off shopping and keep thier job..


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 9:32 am
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I dunno, I got about £80 worth of mtbing stuff when I left one place!


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 9:48 am
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The last time we had a round of redundancies, the directors made it known that they would consider 'informal requests' from volunteers. This led to all the top guys approaching retirement taking 'redundancy' and receiving 6 figure payouts a couple of years in advance of receiving their substantial final salary pensions (which the rest of us don't have). One of them even came straight back to work as a consultant for a year on a handsome daily rate. Then when he left to enter 'official' retirement, his ex-secretary had the cheek to send an envelope round for donations to buy a leaving present. Unsurprisingly it remained empty.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 10:08 am
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I got a cardboard box and an invitation never to return 😉


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 10:09 am
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What do you write in the card?

In the past I've gone for 'me and Dave always hated you' and leave it unsigned


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 10:55 am
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Happy Birthday amuses me - and no-one else 🙁


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 11:12 am
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Everytime I skim read this thread title I see

'being made redundant shall I leave a present'

ahem


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 1:08 pm
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Never did when I went, I think morale was low enough in general not to bother. However I got married a month before being given my notice so I at least got a good collection for that!


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 1:48 pm
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The person being made redundant may never work again, his 'big pay payout', might be just enough to keep him/her going until they draw a meagre pension.

The collection amount isn't important, but remember.... you will be in the same boat down the line how do you want to go out?


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 6:25 pm