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Misplaced genius rotting at an underperforming club or greedy little git with an overinflated sense of self worth?


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:30 am
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His agent is definitely the latter. Liverpool should sell him.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:31 am
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The later

Plenty of young players have had one decent season or two and not become a stellar superstars

Remember when no one was sure who was best lee sharpe or Ryan giggs

Also left his first club for money [ I should say allegedly there as in no way that I have personal knowledge form the person who negotiated the deal that brought him and his family to liverpool and honestly I do not know if his family got jobs as part of it all it when he was underage....it is mere idle speculation on my part and all made up in my opinon etc.]


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:35 am
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Somewhere in the middle for me Harry.

Has had moments of brilliance, but very very few and far between. Spent the last half of the season without a clue as to what to do with the ball. But of course that could be argued it's the others fault for not giving him options.

Overall though, I wouldn't be sad to see him leave for £25m.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:35 am
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He clearly believes everything his agent says to him. This seems to be along the lines of 'you're better than Messi or Ronaldo, and Real and Barca will be along to offer you a squillion pounds a week shortly'

Unfortunately for him, John Barnes was far more accurate on Five Live this morning....

[i]"He's a 20-year-old boy who has achieved nothing, he has not won anything. Does anyone believe that if he goes to Manchester City he will be the first name on the team sheet or are they just signing him because they need English players?"[/i]

Like a lot of players, he's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:36 am
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Lots of players move clubs for a variety of reasons, and always have. Some clubs fans seem to act like cult members believing the smoke blown up their arses about how special they are.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:36 am
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He seems to be believeing his own hype, he's a poor mans Oxlade-Chamberlain


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:37 am
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The latter.

And he runs like a girl.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:40 am
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Interesting quote from Jamie Carragher, too. "If it's about trophies, Liverpool had a chance for a trophy this year - in the FA Cup semi-final at Wembley against Aston Villa. Where was Sterling?"

Decent player but needs to get his priorities straight. There was a documentary about the Man U 'kids' of the 90s last night. Shows how it should/could be done


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:40 am
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Cracking hair-do, mind


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:42 am
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It was easy for Man U to keep hold of their "kids" because they were winning trophies and paying the highest wages. Those players would not have been so loyal if that as not the case.

And of course what about all the players they bought in that period, they clearly never showed the same loyalty to their past clubs. John Barnes was happy enough to desert Watford to go and join the most successful club of that era.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:42 am
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he's a good player and has the potential to become even better but he's a fool for listening to his own hype and his agent
John Barnes is absolutely spot on. if he wants to go then let him go but for a premium sum so he can go and be an overpaid benchwarmer at City/Arsenal etc while he convinces himself the move was for football reasons and not money


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:45 am
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There is definitely some

greedy little git with an overinflated sense of self worth
there but I do have sympathy for him. He's a young guy who is in a position to negotiate a bigger salary and play football at a higher level.

Let's not pretend there is any loyalty in football either, that has long gone.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:48 am
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Brendan Rodgers referring to him as 'boy' wasn't too clever


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:51 am
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He's flattering himself because he's been a slightly above average player in a decidedly mediocre squad, who couldn't even get near the top four in what has been a really poor premiership season.

I'd have a lot more respect for him if he came out and said "listen... I'm going to win **** all with this bunch of donkey's, so I'm off to somewhere where even if I only come on for 20 minutes, in 2 games throughout the season, I still get to say I won something. And anyway... Have you seen the new Ferrari? I really fancy one of those!"

Next seasons Jack Rodwell/Scott Sinclair


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:52 am
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His problem is that he's not as good as he thinks he is. If he was as good a player as he believes then he wouldnt need holidays to Jamaica half way through the season.

As a Liverpool fan I say sell him.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 11:52 am
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Not sure why footballers are expected to be 'loyal' to their clubs. It's a job. If I was offered double the salary to do the same job elsewhere, I know what I'd do.


 
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[quote=whyrd said]Not sure why footballers are expected to be 'loyal' to their clubs. It's a job. If I was offered double the salary to do the same job elsewhere, I know what I'd do.

Fair enough if you admit that, but he's done the "it's not the money" BS spiel already.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:09 pm
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As always, Liverpool fans are more hard done to in whatever respect it is.

Gerrard retiring is going to hang over the club for decades. Man U = Giggs/Scholes, Chelski = Lampard & Drogba, Spurs = King. All players just as important but Liverpool will bleat for years about it.

So Stirling wants to better himself. Just like Lovren ditched Southampton to move to Liverpool, why shouldn't stirling do the same? I bet Lovren was sold on liverpools history, their chance to win things etc etc. Liverpool also took Lambert so tbh Liverpool don't give two hoots about other teams so its hard to feel sorry for them.

Then we get onto Rogers the cretin who like to sleep with his female physio and ditched his wife. The same guy who said of Spurs when AVB was in charge that ANY TEAM SPENDING £100M SHOULD BE CHALLENGING FOR THE LEAGUE. Well guess what, despite spending nearer £150m Rogers isn't challenging for the league. He said that at a time to put an opposition manager under increased pressure. Well Brendan, fall on your sword please.

Why would Stirling put his fledgling career in the hands of Rogers? He has shown, by his own words that he aint that good. Liverpool wont get another £150m spending spree so chances are next season is gonna be another wash out. The names bandied around are

Man U
Arsenal
Chelski
Man City
Bayern
Real Madrid
Barca

Think of the managers and players he could be linking up with. The titles he could win. The development to his game. OK Man City is the last place I would recommend but under Pep at Bayern he would have Robben and Ribery to learn under. A coach who could turn him into anything he wants.

Yep, this is about money, but truth be told he will get his money regardless. He is now making a career choice and Liverpool need to realise that he isn't one of them, he's a footballer who could become top class.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:11 pm
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Plenty of young players have had one decent season or two and not become a stellar superstars

I heard a rumour once that Blackburn Rovers had to choose between Garry Fitcroft or Zinedine Zidane 😯


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:11 pm
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All footballers are greedy yes they are.

Sell them for profit like you sell merchandise.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:12 pm
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It's not like there aren't plenty of other flaky, fast but lightweight wingers that can't finish around. Arsenal have got a team full of them already.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:15 pm
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The names bandied around are

Man U
Arsenal
Chelski
Man City
Bayern
Real Madrid
Barca

Barring a massive injury crisis, he's nowhere near good enough to get a sniff of a regular starting place at any of those clubs. Real, Barca, Bayern and Chelski? He'd be lucky to make the bench


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:16 pm
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As always, Liverpool fans are more hard done to in whatever respect it is.

Gerrard retiring is going to hang over the club for decades. Man U = Giggs/Scholes, Chelski = Lampard & Drogba, Spurs = King. All players just as important but Liverpool will bleat for years about it.

So Stirling wants to better himself. Just like Lovren ditched Southampton to move to Liverpool, why shouldn't stirling do the same? I bet Lovren was sold on liverpools history, their chance to win things etc etc. Liverpool also took Lambert so tbh Liverpool don't give two hoots about other teams so its hard to feel sorry for them.

Then we get onto Rogers the cretin who like to sleep with his female physio and ditched his wife. The same guy who said of Spurs when AVB was in charge that ANY TEAM SPENDING £100M SHOULD BE CHALLENGING FOR THE LEAGUE. Well guess what, despite spending nearer £150m Rogers isn't challenging for the league. He said that at a time to put an opposition manager under increased pressure. Well Brendan, fall on your sword please.

Why would Stirling put his fledgling career in the hands of Rogers? He has shown, by his own words that he aint that good. Liverpool wont get another £150m spending spree so chances are next season is gonna be another wash out. The names bandied around are

Man U
Arsenal
Chelski
Man City
Bayern
Real Madrid
Barca

Think of the managers and players he could be linking up with. The titles he could win. The development to his game. OK Man City is the last place I would recommend but under Pep at Bayern he would have Robben and Ribery to learn under. A coach who could turn him into anything he wants.

Yep, this is about money, but truth be told he will get his money regardless. He is now making a career choice and Liverpool need to realise that he isn't one of them, he's a footballer who could become top class.

Jeez that's a rant for such a simple question..

Like the Murphys... you're not bitter.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:17 pm
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[i]Not sure why footballers are expected to be 'loyal' to their clubs. It's a job. If I was offered double the salary to do the same job elsewhere, I know what I'd do.[/i]

Indeed....£26m contract or £45m contract??(5years)

Hmmm....let me think about that!


 
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Then we get onto Rogers the cretin who like to sleep with his female physio and ditched his wife.

Get it right if you're going to have a rant. Charlotte Hinds is the former travel co-ordinator of LFC, not physio.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:17 pm
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He aint flaky and this season has been hard for him.

But last season he had suarez with him. Think what you like about suarez but he was world class. I saw him move stirling about with little hand signals and words of advice to the point where stirling was giving movement on the pitch way in advance of his years.

Maybe, just maybe stirling realises that he needs to work with top strikers who understand the benefits of movement to develop his game. It must have come as a shock to spend 12mths with Ballotelli & Lambert.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:18 pm
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Ok, travel co ordinator. Thanks for the correction.

He is good enough to get near all them teams mentioned. I don't support Liverpool but the lad is waiting to get to the next level in his development. He cant do that alongside Lamber & Ballotelli


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:22 pm
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[url= http://www.liverpoolfc.com/team/first-team/player/raheem-sterling ](Raheem) Sterling[/url]

[url= http://www.destinationstirling.com/ ]Stirling[/url]

It can't be that hard can it?

Anyway, as a Liverpool fan, if he wants out cash in whilst his stock is high, sad to see him go but John Barnes (who was well on his way to becoming the finished article when he moved) summed it up perfectly.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:27 pm
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He is good enough to get near all them teams mentioned.

You are his agent and I claim my Stoke City/Sunderland/West Brom Stirling replica shirt (because thats where he'll be in 3 seasons, having been warming the bench somewhere highly paid in between) 😉


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:28 pm
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We will have to wait and see binners.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:34 pm
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I have to say that in my experience, young quick players tend to burst onto the scene, play well for a couple of years and then once they pick up muscle problems, are never the same again. To think of a few:

Ruel Fox
Aaron Lennon
Theo Walcott

even Michael Owen to a lesser extent

Therefore, he should take the money and run (carefully in case he pulls a muscle!)


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:35 pm
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He's at a massive club playing regular football at the age of 20. Why not just stay there, keep playing and getting paid incredible money then if it doesn't work out in two three year i.e not winning trophies, move on.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:37 pm
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He couldn't hit a barn door with a shovel! Its all well and good being able to leg it the length off the pitch, running like Phoebe out of Friends. But the trick is to do something with it once you get there. Other than look like a rabbit in the headlights, sky it into Row Z, or fall over

So for that reason.. I'm out. I suspect thats an opinion shared by managers throughout Europe

Nowhere near as good as he thinks he is


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:38 pm
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[i]I suspect thats an opinion shared by managers throughout Europe[/i]

It can't be, he's probably already had a couple of offers in excess of £150k a week for 5 years. He might be dim, but he's not going to jump before he's got offers in place.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:40 pm
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[i]He's at a massive club playing regular football at the age of 20. Why not just stay there, keep playing and getting paid incredible money then if it doesn't work out in two three year i.e not winning trophies, move on.[/i]

That's a common sense view, but that has all gone now with the obscene amounts of money available to the best players. And....to be fair to him, he's not from Liverpool and doesn't feel the loyalty that someone like Stevie G did.

Whilst I'm far from impressed, he's taking advantage of the market and looking after no. 1.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:44 pm
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If he's had offers of 150 grand a week, other than in his agents fevered imagination, then the world really has gone mad! Its another Andy Carroll! A £35 million striker, apparently.

In reality... he hasn't.

Rodgers is presently a lot nearer the mark on 35


 
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It can't be, he's probably already had a couple of offers in excess of £150k a week for 5 years. He might be dim, but he's not going to jump before he's got offers in place.

Or, he might think that LFC button up the back and is trying to get a £150k/wk contract out of them.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:46 pm
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Joe Hart's new City deal earn hime £110,000 a week but it can reach £150,000 a week with various bonuses.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:48 pm
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Sterling is not in the top 10 players in the premiership to think he is so good the eltie teams in Europe want him is fanciful.
Not even good enough to be a bench warmer there

You do realise at Barca the players in his position are Messi or Neymar......not even his mum would pick him first.

Bale or Ronaldo at Real etc


 
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Stirling is not all about being able to leg it the length of the pitch. He is all about cutting in from wide and dragging defenders into difficult positions. Suarez used him to open up gaps for himself and taught the lad how to move properly on a pitch.

Then suarez left, rogers sacrificed young sterling to try and carry the striker position and left the lads development to sink for 12mths. Now, other managers of note have noticed how much he is being wasted, have seen that unless Liverpool go out and buy another couple of forwards to complement him (Lambert & Ballotelli gone plus sturridge has mega family history of injury issues) he is looking at another wasted 12mths.

So that's will be 2years he will have 'given' to Liverpool in the hope that they do something about it.


 
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You do realise at Barca the players in his position are Messi or Neymar......not even his mum would pick him first.

You forgot Suarez.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:52 pm
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who plays as the striker
I am classing Sterling as an inside forward/ winger rather than a striker


 
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Joe Hart's new City deal earn hime £110,000 a week but it can reach £150,000 a week with various bonuses.

But Joe Hart is genuinely proven world class international. He's first on the team list week in, week out.

Then theres the matter of looking where the teams mentioned in connection with him would be looking to strengthen their squads. And he just isn't the type of player that they're looking for. They've got plenty of far, far higher quality versions themselves already

Stirling is not all about being able to leg it the length of the pitch. He is all about [s]cutting in from wide and dragging defenders into difficult positions[/s] able to leg it the length of the pitch, cutting in, then skying it into Row Z and falling over
😆


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:54 pm
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You guys are concentrating on the money. If he gets £100k per week or £150k per week, the lad is well off regardless. Tax probably makes a bigger difference to his wages than the headline figures.

Liverpool are trying to use all tactics, including ex players to pressure sterling into signing. Hats off to the lad for withstanding it.


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:55 pm
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who plays as the striker
I am classing Sterling as an inside forward/ winger rather than a striker

They had Pedro, Sanchez, Tello and Affelay who couldn't get a game for 3 years, what makes you think Sterling would ? lol


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 12:57 pm
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[i]You guys are concentrating on the money.[/i]

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!

Remember TV 2013-16 £3bn 2016-19 £5.1bn


 
Posted : 19/05/2015 1:00 pm
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3 seasons warming the bench in Europe, then Aston Villa on a free....

😆


 
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They had Pedro, Sanchez, Tello and Affelay who couldn't get a game for 3 years, what makes you think Sterling would ? lol

I dont that what what my post was about
He wont get near the starting line up at the top teams as Hobo claimed


 
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I dont that what what my post was about
He wont get near the starting line up at the top teams as Hobo claimed

I agree, hence my point...

If they can't get a shirt for Barca and Tello and Aff were thought of as 2 of the best Euro prospects in the leagues, along with Sanchez who was a bench warmer and Pedro who was a regular sub... Sterling has no chance of getting in.

Real are similar with their talent.

Sure, he can go warm the City Bench and destroy his career if he feels that's the way to go.


 
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I can't imagine many Liverpool fans will give a toss..

"Raheem Sterling told Brendan Rodgers he wants to leave Liverpool

The 20-year-old is demanding wages of more than £100,000 per week

Sterling ranks 91st in the Premier League for most successful passes

The England starlet has made fewer successful crosses than Alan Hutton

He had nine goals from 33 shots last season but has seven from 62 this

His conversion rate was 27.3 per cent last year and is a lowly 11.3 now

Sterling has tried as many dribbles as Crystal Palace's Yannick Bolasie

He has created 75 chances – 10 less than West Ham's Stewart Downing "


 
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I'd rather have Bolasie in all honesty... I rekon in the right team he could be a cracking player.

Sadly, I'm not sure the current team IS the right team 🙂


 
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As a city fan it is not a particularly exciting prospect although I can see the sense in it in relation to squad restrictions and home grown players. We are about to lose fat frank and probably Milner (to Liverpool on a free). We have a fairly compact squad of mostly foreign players, Hart and the French international Gael Clichy are the only other ‘home grown’ players you’d recognise. So we need to make up the numbers in the squad with home grown players and the logic would be to get the best you can for the long term i.e. Sterling. Is he better than David Silva, Sergio Aguero or Yaya Toure – no chance.

You might wonder why we don’t bring through some youth players of our own. Well we have a young lad Lopes who has just had a great season on loan at Lille although he is Portugese and Denayer who has been at Celtic and was voted young player of the year – he is form Belgium! That is modern football for you!


 
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If he was at Swansea, West Ham, Southampton etc and was looking to move would anyone make such a fuss? Why do Liverpool think they're any different? They no longer eat at the top table however much they like to think they do.

In most other jobs he would not be given a hard time for moving to a company with better prospects and potentially a better wage so again, why do Liverpool think they're different?


 
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Funnily enough, I reckon Citeh might be a good fit for him - they really really need some pace IMO and he [i][u]could[/u][/i] do for them what laddo's done for Chelsea (rather lower class version, obvz)


 
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Let him go take the money ,get a proven journeyman in on a free and pay just wages .... He needs to learn his craft first he is still way off the finished article and don't say he's only 20 yes he is but he's trying to hold the club to ransom without having the skills to back up his wage demands ...Rooney went to man utd too early good player but should of been a world beater


 
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Hang on everyone who is saying he's not worth it , Brendan Rodgers has said he is 'Oustanding' nearly every week , so now who do I believe?

I think the other thing here is potential . No one is saying he is better than Ronaldo etc. But he is very young and could well go on to great things . Or Everton on loan after a season on the bench at City


 
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But Joe Hart is genuinely proven world class international

Oh, okay then. Just because someone plays for their country, does not make them world class bin bins.


 
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Another one of those young, quick players that peaks when they're about twenty two; loses their pace by about twenty five; adds nothing more to their game and either retires early or languishes at a lower league team.


 
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Shaun Wright Phillips ! Rodgers says a lot of things that are debatable ! Get rid now spend money on the spine ..centre half ,centre mid and forward ... I would only keep mignolet ,skrtel,Henderson ,chan and sturridge (if fit)....clear the rest


 
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He's the next Jermaine Pennant


 
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Shaun Wright Phillips ! Rodgers says a lot of things that are debatable ! Get rid now spend money on the spine ..centre half ,centre mid and forward ... I would only keep mignolet ,skrtel,Henderson ,chan and sturridge (if fit)....clear the rest

Keep mignolet but punt coutinho? You're smoking something.


 
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Let him go and spend the money on real talent


 
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He seems to be a massive confidence player, wage/contract negotiations come out and he has a dip in form which is the complete opposite to almost all players who seem to have a blinding few games at that point before settling back down.

He has a mid season dip manager sends him for some hols which isn't the usual response from a lot of managers.

Back in 2013 he took a big dip in form, turned out later to be a court case on his mind, but a lot of players can put everything off the field out of their minds when they step on the pitch, so far he doesn't seem to be one of those and then when you are are a cocky teenager/twenty something and you are a supposed to feel indestructible/invincible with the freshness of youth it doesn't bode well for later in his career being a bit mentally fragile so young.


 
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I say let Raheem go. Carra put him in his place imo.
Let him go to Cit-eh and we get Milner,couple of years in him yet , and he always has a go.


 
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“Football hasn’t changed,” said Rodgers. “It has always been like that.

Southampton is a great club, but so was Swansea, who have produced a fine young player in Ben Davies and have lost him to Tottenham.

“That’s the nature of it. Players will want to compete at the highest level.

“Luke Shaw was probably disappointed and sad to leave Southampton, but he’s gone to a what he would deem to be a bigger club.

“The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that – and that will always be the case. I think chairmen and directors and executives understand that, so all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again.”


 
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What makes people think liverpool are a big club? Is it the Number of fans? The participation of champions league? The number of world class players? The historical number of titles won? The size of stadium? The sheer weight of unfounded expectation? In those imortal worlds of the youth today.. YOLO! and I dont mean the Toure brothers.

I'd prefer to watch 11 players give it their all and play with passion than a couple of mediocre divas. I'm sure he'll blend into the wallpaper whereever he goes.


 
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They have the 6th biggest fanbase worldwide

6. Liverpool – 32,452,662 fans on social media

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Liverpool’s hopes of expanding Anfield have been boosted by research which shows club now boast 580 million fans worldwide.


 
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Liverpool’s hopes of expanding Anfield have been boosted by research which shows club now boast 580 million fans worldwide.

They're going to build a fark-off stadium in Kuala Lumpur ? 😆


 
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Since when has the amount of armchair fans you have dictate what happens on the pitch? If that was the case my team Leeds would be at least mid table Prem. We're not and I accept that and wouldn't begrudge our talented young players a move to the Prem.

Liverpool are in the same group as Spurs, best of the rest with the chance of Champs League every five years or so. Their better players will interest the Champs League clubs so they'll do well to hang on to them. If Liverpool break in to the perennial top four at some point they will expect to do the same as everyone else.


 
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Since when has the amount of armchair fans you have dictate what happens on the pitch? If that was the case my team Leeds would be at least mid table Prem. We're not and I accept that and wouldn't begrudge our talented young players a move to the Prem.

Liverpool are in the same group as Spurs, best of the rest with the chance of Champs League every five years or so. Their better players will interest the Champs League clubs so they'll do well to hang on to them. If Liverpool break in to the perennial top four at some point they will expect to do the same as everyone else.

the question was "what makes Liverpool think they're one of the big clubs"

I answered that.

I don't deny that this season hasn't gone as well as I'd hoped and the performances were not up to par often. However, the reasons have been fairly obvious with the strike force, or lack of it being the main reason behind that.

People seem to forget that Liverpool broke into the top 4 last season almost winning the title even.

But I accept their lure as a 'big' club is a long way from as high as it has been in the past.


 
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And you would have stayed top 4 had you kept Suarez.

Liverpool are massive team for two reasons

1. History - though attempts have been made recently you cannot buy that

2. Fan base

I cannot see how one can say they are not a big club
What they struggle with is not being a rich club.

I think very few footy fans would rather see a rich peoples play thing - city or Chelsea- flourish than a well supported team like Pool or Leeds or Newcastle .

Liverpool are a big team but they do need regular CL footy or they are in danger of being a second tier of t EPL team.


 
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To a proper football fan, Liverpool are a bigger club than Manchester City and way, way bigger than Chelsea.

But as for Sterling, If he doesn't want to stay, punt him. No point having soneone at the club that doesn't want to be there.


 
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To a proper football fan, Liverpool are a bigger club than Manchester City and way, way bigger than Chelsea.

I think that depends on age. I grew up a season ticket holder in the Kop from 1976-1985, so I had the glory days... So to me, Liverpool will always be massive.

Anyone who didn't start with football till say even 2000, would barely think Liverpool exist and struggle to grasp what all the fuss is about.


 
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Bring back Rafa!!!


 
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Bring back Rafa!!!

Stop it you fruitcake.


 
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Can I just ask the scousers about Rodgers. I know a few Liverpool fans, and they're not happy. In fact, they're all muttering the same thing. Rodgers has spent a lot of money (150m+), including buying Mario Ballotelli, and won nowt. Again. Time to go, apparently.

Somewhat predictably, in true forever-gazing-backwards-fashion, they reckon the solution is to bring the Fat Spanish Waiter back.

Your thoughts please....?

Edit: already added by Lodders as I was typing that. 😀


 
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Pre-haircut I couldn't help equating Raheem to....

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And as a Gooner I really wouldn't want us to buy him, which we'll only do if we offload Walcott......not sure which is the lesser of two evils really.


 
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Can I just ask the scousers about Rodgers. I know a few Liverpool fans, and they're not happy. In fact, they're all muttering the same thing. Rodgers has spent a lot of money (150m+), including buying Mario Ballotelli, and won nowt. Again. Time to go, apparently.

Somewhat predictably, in true forever-gazing-backwards-fashion, they reckon the solution is to bring the Fat Spanish Waiter back.

Your thoughts please....?

Edit: already added by Lodders as I was typing that

Me personally, I base my decisions on what his team does when they're doing what I assume he teaches in training and playing well, with the players being fit too.

This season I lay a lot of the blame on the Sturridge injuries and Suarez leaving, along with players like Henderson only turning up for 50% of the season and Sterling for 35% of the season. but when the team is playing well, they're excellent to watch.

I want BR to stay myself, I think he's got what it takes along with the right attitude towards the club, history and fans.

Of course, Benitez also has/had that with the club and fans, which would mean if BR was to leave then yes, part of me would like to see him back. But then I look back at some of the football we played under him and it troubles me greatly.. He played a lot of the 1-0 type football that Chelsea have been berated for at times this year, along with the 'boring boring arsenal' we've had over the years.

The problem comes that this type of football my often be dull, but also can be very good at producing results.

I think if BR can get 2 decent forwards, ship out Ballo, Sterling, Borini and Lambert, then Liverpool will once again flourish. Getting another CB and giving Can a place in the middle, again I think will help, unless Lucas can regain fitness/form and once again dominate the middle giving Can the CB role he seem to have fallen into.


 
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Can I just ask the scousers about Rodgers. I know a few Liverpool fans, and they're not happy. In fact, they're all muttering the same thing. Rodgers has spent a lot of money (150m+), including buying Mario Ballotelli, and won nowt. Again. Time to go, apparently.

Somewhat predictably, in true forever-gazing-backwards-fashion, they reckon the solution is to bring the Fat Spanish Waiter back.

Your thoughts please....?

Edit: already added by Lodders as I was typing that

Me personally, I base my decisions on what his team does when they're doing what I assume he teaches in training and playing well, with the players being fit too.

This season I lay a lot of the blame on the Sturridge injuries and Suarez leaving, along with players like Henderson only turning up for 50% of the season and Sterling for 35% of the season. but when the team is playing well, they're excellent to watch.

I want BR to stay myself, I think he's got what it takes along with the right attitude towards the club, history and fans.

Of course, Benitez also has/had that with the club and fans, which would mean if BR was to leave then yes, part of me would like to see him back. But then I look back at some of the football we played under him and it troubles me greatly.. He played a lot of the 1-0 type football that Chelsea have been berated for at times this year, along with the 'boring boring arsenal' we've had over the years.

The problem comes that this type of football my often be dull, but also can be very good at producing results.

I think if BR can get 2 decent forwards, ship out Ballo, Sterling, Borini and Lambert, then Liverpool will once again flourish. Getting another CB and giving Can a place in the middle, again I think will help, unless Lucas can regain fitness/form and once again dominate the middle giving Can the CB role he seem to have fallen into.


 
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