[Closed] Raheem Sterling

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who plays as the striker
I am classing Sterling as an inside forward/ winger rather than a striker

They had Pedro, Sanchez, Tello and Affelay who couldn't get a game for 3 years, what makes you think Sterling would ? lol

[i]You guys are concentrating on the money.[/i]

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!

Remember TV 2013-16 £3bn 2016-19 £5.1bn

3 seasons warming the bench in Europe, then Aston Villa on a free....

😆

They had Pedro, Sanchez, Tello and Affelay who couldn't get a game for 3 years, what makes you think Sterling would ? lol

I dont that what what my post was about
He wont get near the starting line up at the top teams as Hobo claimed

I agree, hence my point...

If they can't get a shirt for Barca and Tello and Aff were thought of as 2 of the best Euro prospects in the leagues, along with Sanchez who was a bench warmer and Pedro who was a regular sub... Sterling has no chance of getting in.

Real are similar with their talent.

Sure, he can go warm the City Bench and destroy his career if he feels that's the way to go.

I can't imagine many Liverpool fans will give a toss..

"Raheem Sterling told Brendan Rodgers he wants to leave Liverpool

The 20-year-old is demanding wages of more than £100,000 per week

Sterling ranks 91st in the Premier League for most successful passes

The England starlet has made fewer successful crosses than Alan Hutton

He had nine goals from 33 shots last season but has seven from 62 this

His conversion rate was 27.3 per cent last year and is a lowly 11.3 now

Sterling has tried as many dribbles as Crystal Palace's Yannick Bolasie

He has created 75 chances – 10 less than West Ham's Stewart Downing "

I'd rather have Bolasie in all honesty... I rekon in the right team he could be a cracking player.

Sadly, I'm not sure the current team IS the right team 🙂

As a city fan it is not a particularly exciting prospect although I can see the sense in it in relation to squad restrictions and home grown players. We are about to lose fat frank and probably Milner (to Liverpool on a free). We have a fairly compact squad of mostly foreign players, Hart and the French international Gael Clichy are the only other ‘home grown’ players you’d recognise. So we need to make up the numbers in the squad with home grown players and the logic would be to get the best you can for the long term i.e. Sterling. Is he better than David Silva, Sergio Aguero or Yaya Toure – no chance.

You might wonder why we don’t bring through some youth players of our own. Well we have a young lad Lopes who has just had a great season on loan at Lille although he is Portugese and Denayer who has been at Celtic and was voted young player of the year – he is form Belgium! That is modern football for you!

If he was at Swansea, West Ham, Southampton etc and was looking to move would anyone make such a fuss? Why do Liverpool think they're any different? They no longer eat at the top table however much they like to think they do.

In most other jobs he would not be given a hard time for moving to a company with better prospects and potentially a better wage so again, why do Liverpool think they're different?

Funnily enough, I reckon Citeh might be a good fit for him - they really really need some pace IMO and he [i][u]could[/u][/i] do for them what laddo's done for Chelsea (rather lower class version, obvz)

Let him go take the money ,get a proven journeyman in on a free and pay just wages .... He needs to learn his craft first he is still way off the finished article and don't say he's only 20 yes he is but he's trying to hold the club to ransom without having the skills to back up his wage demands ...Rooney went to man utd too early good player but should of been a world beater

Hang on everyone who is saying he's not worth it , Brendan Rodgers has said he is 'Oustanding' nearly every week , so now who do I believe?

I think the other thing here is potential . No one is saying he is better than Ronaldo etc. But he is very young and could well go on to great things . Or Everton on loan after a season on the bench at City

But Joe Hart is genuinely proven world class international

Oh, okay then. Just because someone plays for their country, does not make them world class bin bins.

Another one of those young, quick players that peaks when they're about twenty two; loses their pace by about twenty five; adds nothing more to their game and either retires early or languishes at a lower league team.

Shaun Wright Phillips ! Rodgers says a lot of things that are debatable ! Get rid now spend money on the spine ..centre half ,centre mid and forward ... I would only keep mignolet ,skrtel,Henderson ,chan and sturridge (if fit)....clear the rest

He's the next Jermaine Pennant

Shaun Wright Phillips ! Rodgers says a lot of things that are debatable ! Get rid now spend money on the spine ..centre half ,centre mid and forward ... I would only keep mignolet ,skrtel,Henderson ,chan and sturridge (if fit)....clear the rest

Keep mignolet but punt coutinho? You're smoking something.

Let him go and spend the money on real talent

He seems to be a massive confidence player, wage/contract negotiations come out and he has a dip in form which is the complete opposite to almost all players who seem to have a blinding few games at that point before settling back down.

He has a mid season dip manager sends him for some hols which isn't the usual response from a lot of managers.

Back in 2013 he took a big dip in form, turned out later to be a court case on his mind, but a lot of players can put everything off the field out of their minds when they step on the pitch, so far he doesn't seem to be one of those and then when you are are a cocky teenager/twenty something and you are a supposed to feel indestructible/invincible with the freshness of youth it doesn't bode well for later in his career being a bit mentally fragile so young.

I say let Raheem go. Carra put him in his place imo.
Let him go to Cit-eh and we get Milner,couple of years in him yet , and he always has a go.

“Football hasn’t changed,” said Rodgers. “It has always been like that.

Southampton is a great club, but so was Swansea, who have produced a fine young player in Ben Davies and have lost him to Tottenham.

“That’s the nature of it. Players will want to compete at the highest level.

“Luke Shaw was probably disappointed and sad to leave Southampton, but he’s gone to a what he would deem to be a bigger club.

“The guys have come here because of the status of Liverpool and Champions League football. It’s hard to deny players that – and that will always be the case. I think chairmen and directors and executives understand that, so all they can do is maximise what they can get for the talent and look to invest again.”

What makes people think liverpool are a big club? Is it the Number of fans? The participation of champions league? The number of world class players? The historical number of titles won? The size of stadium? The sheer weight of unfounded expectation? In those imortal worlds of the youth today.. YOLO! and I dont mean the Toure brothers.

I'd prefer to watch 11 players give it their all and play with passion than a couple of mediocre divas. I'm sure he'll blend into the wallpaper whereever he goes.

They have the 6th biggest fanbase worldwide

6. Liverpool – 32,452,662 fans on social media

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Liverpool’s hopes of expanding Anfield have been boosted by research which shows club now boast 580 million fans worldwide.

They're going to build a fark-off stadium in Kuala Lumpur ? 😆

Since when has the amount of armchair fans you have dictate what happens on the pitch? If that was the case my team Leeds would be at least mid table Prem. We're not and I accept that and wouldn't begrudge our talented young players a move to the Prem.

Liverpool are in the same group as Spurs, best of the rest with the chance of Champs League every five years or so. Their better players will interest the Champs League clubs so they'll do well to hang on to them. If Liverpool break in to the perennial top four at some point they will expect to do the same as everyone else.

chestrockwell - Member

Since when has the amount of armchair fans you have dictate what happens on the pitch? If that was the case my team Leeds would be at least mid table Prem. We're not and I accept that and wouldn't begrudge our talented young players a move to the Prem.

Liverpool are in the same group as Spurs, best of the rest with the chance of Champs League every five years or so. Their better players will interest the Champs League clubs so they'll do well to hang on to them. If Liverpool break in to the perennial top four at some point they will expect to do the same as everyone else.

the question was "what makes Liverpool think they're one of the big clubs"

I answered that.

I don't deny that this season hasn't gone as well as I'd hoped and the performances were not up to par often. However, the reasons have been fairly obvious with the strike force, or lack of it being the main reason behind that.

People seem to forget that Liverpool broke into the top 4 last season almost winning the title even.

But I accept their lure as a 'big' club is a long way from as high as it has been in the past.

And you would have stayed top 4 had you kept Suarez.

Liverpool are massive team for two reasons

1. History - though attempts have been made recently you cannot buy that

2. Fan base

I cannot see how one can say they are not a big club
What they struggle with is not being a rich club.

I think very few footy fans would rather see a rich peoples play thing - city or Chelsea- flourish than a well supported team like Pool or Leeds or Newcastle .

Liverpool are a big team but they do need regular CL footy or they are in danger of being a second tier of t EPL team.

To a proper football fan, Liverpool are a bigger club than Manchester City and way, way bigger than Chelsea.

But as for Sterling, If he doesn't want to stay, punt him. No point having soneone at the club that doesn't want to be there.

To a proper football fan, Liverpool are a bigger club than Manchester City and way, way bigger than Chelsea.

I think that depends on age. I grew up a season ticket holder in the Kop from 1976-1985, so I had the glory days... So to me, Liverpool will always be massive.

Anyone who didn't start with football till say even 2000, would barely think Liverpool exist and struggle to grasp what all the fuss is about.

Bring back Rafa!!!

loddrik - Member

Bring back Rafa!!!

Stop it you fruitcake.

Can I just ask the scousers about Rodgers. I know a few Liverpool fans, and they're not happy. In fact, they're all muttering the same thing. Rodgers has spent a lot of money (150m+), including buying Mario Ballotelli, and won nowt. Again. Time to go, apparently.

Somewhat predictably, in true forever-gazing-backwards-fashion, they reckon the solution is to bring the Fat Spanish Waiter back.

Your thoughts please....?

Edit: already added by Lodders as I was typing that. 😀

Pre-haircut I couldn't help equating Raheem to....

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And as a Gooner I really wouldn't want us to buy him, which we'll only do if we offload Walcott......not sure which is the lesser of two evils really.

binners - Member

Can I just ask the scousers about Rodgers. I know a few Liverpool fans, and they're not happy. In fact, they're all muttering the same thing. Rodgers has spent a lot of money (150m+), including buying Mario Ballotelli, and won nowt. Again. Time to go, apparently.

Somewhat predictably, in true forever-gazing-backwards-fashion, they reckon the solution is to bring the Fat Spanish Waiter back.

Your thoughts please....?

Edit: already added by Lodders as I was typing that

Me personally, I base my decisions on what his team does when they're doing what I assume he teaches in training and playing well, with the players being fit too.

This season I lay a lot of the blame on the Sturridge injuries and Suarez leaving, along with players like Henderson only turning up for 50% of the season and Sterling for 35% of the season. but when the team is playing well, they're excellent to watch.

I want BR to stay myself, I think he's got what it takes along with the right attitude towards the club, history and fans.

Of course, Benitez also has/had that with the club and fans, which would mean if BR was to leave then yes, part of me would like to see him back. But then I look back at some of the football we played under him and it troubles me greatly.. He played a lot of the 1-0 type football that Chelsea have been berated for at times this year, along with the 'boring boring arsenal' we've had over the years.

The problem comes that this type of football my often be dull, but also can be very good at producing results.

I think if BR can get 2 decent forwards, ship out Ballo, Sterling, Borini and Lambert, then Liverpool will once again flourish. Getting another CB and giving Can a place in the middle, again I think will help, unless Lucas can regain fitness/form and once again dominate the middle giving Can the CB role he seem to have fallen into.

binners - Member

Can I just ask the scousers about Rodgers. I know a few Liverpool fans, and they're not happy. In fact, they're all muttering the same thing. Rodgers has spent a lot of money (150m+), including buying Mario Ballotelli, and won nowt. Again. Time to go, apparently.

Somewhat predictably, in true forever-gazing-backwards-fashion, they reckon the solution is to bring the Fat Spanish Waiter back.

Your thoughts please....?

Edit: already added by Lodders as I was typing that

Me personally, I base my decisions on what his team does when they're doing what I assume he teaches in training and playing well, with the players being fit too.

This season I lay a lot of the blame on the Sturridge injuries and Suarez leaving, along with players like Henderson only turning up for 50% of the season and Sterling for 35% of the season. but when the team is playing well, they're excellent to watch.

I want BR to stay myself, I think he's got what it takes along with the right attitude towards the club, history and fans.

Of course, Benitez also has/had that with the club and fans, which would mean if BR was to leave then yes, part of me would like to see him back. But then I look back at some of the football we played under him and it troubles me greatly.. He played a lot of the 1-0 type football that Chelsea have been berated for at times this year, along with the 'boring boring arsenal' we've had over the years.

The problem comes that this type of football my often be dull, but also can be very good at producing results.

I think if BR can get 2 decent forwards, ship out Ballo, Sterling, Borini and Lambert, then Liverpool will once again flourish. Getting another CB and giving Can a place in the middle, again I think will help, unless Lucas can regain fitness/form and once again dominate the middle giving Can the CB role he seem to have fallen into.

It's all very well looking at it from a fans perspective but that's not how the players look at it.

To a player the established top four are the big clubs. Real Madrid and Barca are bigger still. Liverpool's history and fan base means players will go to them over Swansea/Newcastle/West Ham/etc but to the top four over Liverpool. It takes more than one season back in the CL to change that. When was the last time Liverpool had a world class player that didn't end up moving on to a 'bigger' club? Even Sir Stevie very nearly went.

I guess big club = ability to win titles, european championships, trophies at the top level and get paid a load more irrespective of playing time.

I dont see many players heading to Real madrid or Barcelona and playing for free? Then comes the nouveux rich clubs like PSG, Citeh, Chelsea who will pay for whoever they want.

Its typical that we big up the English players but in reality our best football export was Sir Bobby Robson.

Liverpool is a big club, in fact one of the giants of the game from a historical perspective. Their last European Cup (champions/runner-ups/third place/fourth place if you win the play off League) triumph was one of the greatest games I've seen. Personally gutted they didn't win the PL last year.

Where they are now is about right, you can spend £150m but you cannot replace Suarez or an age-ing Gerrard. Much like Spurs (my club) with Bale. You can spend money but 4th is likely to be your target. To get to 1st or 2nd on a regular basis you need more like a billion these days spent over a period of years.

As a part time follower of football I would agree I'd much rather see Liverpool do well than Chelsea or Man City or United. I'm glad Leeds have imploded and I'm hoping Newcastle go down, their fans need a reality check and get rid of the chips on their shoulders about anyone from outside the city influencing their club.

Football fans are always selective when it comes to History. Pre War Man City was by far the biggest club in Manchester and if it wasn’t for the help City offered United post war who knows where they would be. People act like City or Chelsea don’t deserve to be successful as success is the divine right of the clubs who won things in the 80’s or 90’s! And as for the number of fans – highest ever attendance for a football game in England = Man City 84,569 at Main Rd in 1934! You can stick your face book followers up your arse!

I like Liverpool as we have a common enemy but the whining fans do get on my tits.

I like Liverpool as we have a common enemy but the whining fans do get on my tits.

Must have missed that as I've not seen/heard any whinging on here... or any other Liverpool discussions in honesty.

They have the 6th biggest fanbase worldwide

Is that a made up chart?

Must have missed that as I've not seen/heard any whinging on here... or any other Liverpool discussions in honesty.

No, Liverpool fans haven't turned on Sterling because he has dared to want to play for another club 😆

davidtaylforth - Member

They have the 6th biggest fanbase worldwide

Is that a made up chart?

That one was from BBC website, all the 3 links were found quickly on Google.

Pre War Man City was by far the biggest club in Manchester

City have great support [ as do Leeds and Newcastle and other teams] but only a city fans considers them to be one of the BIG teams [ no offence meant].

May change in a decade or so but not yet as their Euro record is still poor.

Possibly still is but your problem is that globally they are somewhat insignificant and their attendance currently is 30,000 below Man U.

City have great support [ as do Leeds and Newcastle and other teams] but only a city fans considers them to be one of the BIG teams [ no offence meant].

May change in a decade or so but not yet as their Euro record is still poor.

It's good that the Surey, Malaysia and Singapore fan base make you a "Big Club".
On current form , you are a long way away from it ...