[Closed] Racist Chinese detergent advert

Now consider the racial stereotyping in any Hollywood film set in contemporary America you've seen recently. Not much better eh.

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Grand Torino, great film but if you removed the racially stereoypical casting it would fail.

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Haven't they heard? There's this "internet" thing around now! 😆

Edukator - so you're saying the ad's ok?

No, DezB. Bad ad, lots of bad Hollywood films.

Shocking by our standards and unacceptable. However ..

Asians (by and large) are obsessed with white skin as we where in Edwardian times as its a sign you don't work in agriculture or labouring. The shops are stacked with skin whitening products and its common to see people with sunshades or even burka like full cover. Add to this the Chinese don't so political correctness, they aren't quite as racist as the Japanese but not far off. We need to be careful judging them by our standards as things are quite different there

And Grand Torino is a bloody awful film.

Grand Torino, great film but if you removed the racially stereoypical casting it would fail.

@Dez - how about Lion King where the baddies speak with an English accent or Alladin where the baddies are heavily Arab yet Alladin a street boy speaks with an American accent !

Add to this the Chinese don't so political correctness, they aren't quite as racist as the Japanese but not far off.

For real racism, have a chat to some Hong Kong Chinese who grew up since the handover. Ask them their opinion of mainlanders. Jaw dropping.

Otherwise, I agree, China is an odd place, where the concept of racism just isn't seen the same way as it is in the West. Back to Shanghai again fairly soon, will report back....

Yeah! How about that!

8 posts in and plenty of howaboutery already. Go STW. 😆

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Add to this the Chinese don't so political correctness, they aren't quite as racist as the Japanese but not far off.

deadlydarcy
8 posts in and plenty of howaboutery already

I thought I covered that in my first post 8)

Grand Torino, great film but if you removed the racially stereoypical casting it would fail.

It would be a film about an old man who gets on with his neigbours and has a very nice car.

America and Europe seem to do extremely well outdoing the planet with racism. Then again tarring a entire country/people with being hands down total racist as standard is pretty racist.

Then again tarring a entire country/people ......

What do you mean tarring? Sounds a bit racist to me 😐

tarring a entire country/people with being hands down total racist as standard is pretty racist.

And yet, this is fine, apparently;

America and Europe seem to do extremely well outdoing the planet with racism.

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mrsfry

Then again tarring a entire country/people with being hands down total racist as standard is pretty racist.

America and Europe seem to do extremely well outdoing the planet with racism.

Are we saying that all Chinese struggle with political correctness and all Japanese are racists?

I think it is pretty obvious that when someone makes a statement like that they are meaning the majority, or a bell curve distribution, and not all.

Wonder where you can buy those washing tabs online..?

Racism is a cultural thing. Some cultures are more racist, other cultures are less racist.

The UK was significantly more racist in the 1960s than it is now.

Terrible advert. No excuse but have never witnessed racism like the African's dish out to the Chinese, truly embarrassing.

Well considering i'm in Europe, your point is?

Why Throw China and Japan under the bus when like i said 'Europe and America do raicism '

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And that it would be racist to tar everyone with the same brush 🙄

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How many experience everyday racism? or promote it?

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This advert appears to be several years older

fly out of china to an African hub like Doha or Dubai, you will witness racism, not by all but by a lot

Add to this the Chinese don't so political correctness, they aren't quite as racist as the Japanese but not far off.

Correct, but what do i know I only have a Chinese wife and associated family to back up my experience, they are mostly incredibly racist in an unknowing way.

The joke doing the rounds here is the lady in the ad will get a shock when she finds out that something has shrunk in the wash!

@ernie - good spot .. looks like the same advert but with a different cast of actors. Where were the social commentators?

Racism, tribalism, caste snobbery and religious hatred are all alive and kicking in Asia and Africa. It's only in Europe and the USA where we have this sensitivity.

Spanish basketball team...

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Racism is a cultural thing. Some cultures are more racist, other cultures are less racist.

The UK was significantly more racist in the 1960s than it is now.

Racism is socially and legally unacceptable in the UK, other countries things are quite different. The anti Japaneese feeling in China is very strong due to historical conflict, I don't travel there as much niw as I did from 1995-2005 but my local colleagues pointed out - how many Japaneese cars do you see, answer hardly any - they wouldn't buy them. The Japaneese have a very superior attitude nationaliy, its just how it is.

Aw, dah tellibuh, laciss wah-ahs

FWIW the huge contingent of Chinese staff that have arrived on site over the last 3 years have spent quite a lot of time in courses and training, learning what is, and what is not acceptable in Europe.
Despite this, i understand about 10% have been disciplined for casual racism, and a small number have been sent home and sacked for more severe acts.

The rate for the local staff (of all colours) is too small to even register, last person to get in trouble of any sort was 4 or 5 years ago.

And thats against a background of a mildly racist culture. Probably worse than the UK.

Racism is socially and legally unacceptable in the UK, other countries things are quite different

The defence of Clarksons racism suggests it isn't that unacceptable.

So the Chinese girl prefers a Chinese boy, how racist of her

Shouldn't forget the sexism against women and men and the gratuitous violence too...

Mega fail

Those of you saying, 'but it's a cultural thing' - are you excusing it, or just playing devil's advocate?

I am neither excusing it nor playing devil's advocate, just stating a fact.

Like the fact that the UK was significantly more racist in the 1960s than it is today.

EDIT : Btw if you want an excellent example of a 'racist culture' look up historical records of Germany in the 1930s, they even ended up systematically executing people for being of the wrong race.

As per @ernie, I said it was unacceptable and the ad should not be shown on UK TV. Aside from that what do you think we can do, by all means boycott Chinese products, go and stand outside the embassy, sign a petition. China executes more people each year than the rest of the world put together, that seems rather more serious to me than a tasteless racsist advert.

There's another aspect to it; we don't know what Chinese poeple say about Africans but working as I do in the fragrance industry I can tell you that Asian people have fewer, smaller sweat glands than Caucasians (us and Indians) who in turn have fewer and smaller sweat glands than Africans. The technical consequence of this is that the perfumes we manufacture for the Far East are much milder and more subtle than those we sell in Africa, where a perfume has to be almost offensively strong to sell. Chinese people say, apparently, that Caucasians smell like corpses so I have no idea what they say about Africans. This may be a hidden meaning to that racist detergent ad in addition to the colour meaning.

I thought we smelled like sour milk?

Wet chickens according to Kunta Kinte.

I have two words....

Michael Jackson

And he spent a shit load getting whiter

Secondly

I'm not sure why we would be buying Chinese detergent in the UK never seen that brand on tesco's shelves

Grand Torino, great film but if you removed the racially stereoypical casting it would fail.

Tell me how you think a film about prejudice and overcoming stereotypes would play then.

In Africa, quite staggering amounts of money are spent on skin toning creams. It's reckoned that a woman living in a city like Lagos or Nairobi spends 25% of her salary on skin toning and hair straightening. Some of my Nigerian customers have become obscenely wealthy by manufacturing what amounts to body lotion laced with illegal dosages (up to 7%) of hydroquinone, a photographic chemical. The WHO allows up to 2% of HQ but people won't buy that as it doesn't have the "sting" and instant effect of the real stuff. If they cant get hydroquinone cream, people use steroid creams and I've even heard of people using battery acid.

In Africa, quite staggering amounts of money are spent on skin toning creams.

And in Europe quite staggering amounts are spent on making skin darker.

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It's almost as if they're not happy with the way they look.

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See Drac's post on the previous page, TooTall.

I have two words....

Michael Jackson

And he spent a shit load getting whiter

Jackson had Vitiligo. The autopsy confirmed it.

So as it turned out, he did have a medical reason for all that skin whitening.

IIRC he got an awful lot of (what turns out to be baseless) stick for it.

And it made his hair go straight.

That's a weird, weird advert. That powder is amazing as it changed the guy's ethnicity as well as his skin colour. If it had been a fat Chinese guy replaced by a ripped younger model there wouldn't be an outcry (and there are actually plenty of things to get riled up about in body-image terms for both sexes still going on in advertising).

But to actually insinuate that black skin is somehow 'dirty' and can be 'washed' is so utterly bizarre that it really does warrant a collective WTF.

Let's go for a bit of lazy stereo-typing in return. Given the suspicions around Chinese elite performance programmes, couldn't she just have popped along to her local swimming club and ordered the guy she wanted from a genetic template?

I've gone right off Formula 1. Does that make me racist?

All that ad proves is that Chinese girls prefer peado looking ghosts.

I have had too many beers

But to actually insinuate that black skin is somehow 'dirty' and can be 'washed' is so utterly bizarre that it really does warrant a collective WTF.

But the original Italian advert is so totally not racist because it only insinuates the "once you go black" trope by stating that "coloured is better".

Only in America could a poor black boy become a rich white woman.

This is a blatant example of ethnic cleansing.

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That's ^^ an interesting reversal of roles - the black boy is being attended to by a white boy.

Presumably Pear's soap has been challenging racism and racist profiling since 1789. Good for them.

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This is a blatant example of ethnic cleansing.

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@stuey nice find, as @ernie said whats culturally acceptable changes.

I can tell you that Asian people have fewer, smaller sweat glands than Caucasians (us and Indians)

Interesting. My nose suggests that they are just as pungent.