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8-% off sale with plenty of waterproof jackets, leggings, etc.
Down jackets at £28 and more.
shouldn't we be boycotting a company that imposes such poor working conditions on its staff ?
I would rather go naked than give money to that organisation TBH
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/dec/18/sports-direct-mike-ashley-parliament-questions-working-conditions ]Parliamentary enquiry into working conditions[/url]
You might find this is how the prices get so low...
Undercover reporters also found evidence that thousands of workers were receiving effective hourly rates of pay below the minimum wage.
If we want more equality we have to play our part... it's not all about expecting the government to sort everything out for us...
8% off! Pah! Go to the shop and there's loads of stuff with up to 50% or more off. I don't know how they do it.
I don't know how they do it.
the answer is in the posts above yours...
It isn't. It's a different one of their shady business practices.the answer is in the posts above yours...
Think this lot have taken over Direct Golf as well - used to be a great online shop, now full of Dunlop rubbish! Still, Sport Direct will never suffer when selling merino tops at £15!
Avoid Sports Direct please!
Why? Are you unable to swap price tags there?
the only reason I'd go into sports direct is if I was planning to take a dump in the changing room
80% off not 8%!!
Plenty of Garmin on there too massively reduced - have they made Garmin have appalling conditions too?
ViRB cameras for the price of a basic GoPro, etc.
Suunto heavily reduced as well.
Camelback manufactured bladders at almost throwaway prices.
I avoid Sports Direct as I once went in the changing room to find someone had taken a dump in there.
But it's "80% off" on a label only they sell (and own) and has never been for sale at 100%80% off
They own Lonsdale now?
Suunto?
SoulCal?
Helly Hansen?
Berghaus?
Gore?
Didn't think so...
Well they are very overpriced for the basic garmin virb HD camera
Hammy read brooes post , we should not support this foul organisation in anyway .
mrchrispy - Member
the only reason I'd go into sports direct is if I was planning to take a dump in the changing room
Harsh!! some poor cleaner will have to deal with that for 50p an hour, now if Mike Ashley had to clean up all faeces left in the shop, we'd all be queuing down the block
And? Every day there's a PSA on here, a post about where's the cheapest place for.... etc.
You don't get the cheapest without someone somewhere cutting corners, wages, etc.
Can't be helped - so its a little hypocritical for people on here to start wringing their hands when you only have to look at the threads started asking the above every single day.
shouldn't we be boycotting a company that imposes such poor working conditions on its staff
if we were to do this we would be restricted by a great deal... Apple products made in China (most chinese products possibly?), clothes in SE asia, coffee from S.America or Africa etc....
their own brand clothing goes bobbly within 2 washes but they are good for kiddies trainers.
They own Lonsdale now?
Yes.
"Sporting and fashion brands owned include Donnay, Slazenger, Firetrap, Dunlop (in most markets), Everlast, Kangol, Karrimor and Lonsdale."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Direct
Someone tell Argos then.....
Someone tell Argos then.....
I'm sure they know who their suppliers are.
I think we can all stop chasing the cheapest ... Where possible. World would be a better place.
Oooooo look... another double standards thread forming... 🙄
This didn't go quite the way the OP intended.
....but SD are a shithouse of a company, and this [i]sale*[/i] is more than likely a reaction to all the negative publicity they have had recently.
*Up to.
Lillywhites in London is a pit compared to what it used to be like, and FieldAndTrek is also pretty sh1t now.
They definitely own Lonsdale & SoulCal.They own Lonsdale now?
Suunto?
SoulCal?
Helly Hansen?
Berghaus?
Gore?Didn't think so...
I also wouldn't be surprised if the "premium brand" offerings were either last seasons stock or even specially manufactured lower-spec garments specifically for discount retailers. (Berghaus definitely do this). Not saying SD can't be good value, but the RRPs & alleged discounts are totally made up. Not really sure how they get away with it!
Mike Ashley is an odious turd of a man, there are so many reasons to avoid spending money in SD it's hard to know where to start.
Surprised he hasn't been made a Lord yet.
Gone the way I wanted?
Couldn't give a flying ... personally about who/what/where or whether anyone buys anything personally.
But theres plenty of good value waterproofs, shells, bottoms, etc perfect for cycling/mtb with loads of accessories - so if you don't like it - don't but it.
If you do - then knock yourself out.
But don't all sit there being sanctimonious when I've seen so many of you chasing the cheapest places to buy "xyz" every sodding day on here and not caring one iota about where it comes from.
😆 at Bruneep!
Whilst it seems there are issues, this also happened at SD
More than 2,000 shop floor staff at Sports Direct are set for a life-changing windfall after record profits at the fast-growing, cheap-and-cheerful chain triggered a bonus payout that will see workers who earn £20,000 a year banking payouts of £100,000 each.
But don't all sit there being sanctimonious when I've seen so many of you chasing the cheapest places to buy "xyz" every sodding day on here and not caring one iota about where it comes from.
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But don't all sit there being sanctimonious when I've seen so many of you chasing the cheapest places to buy "xyz" every sodding day on here and not caring one iota about where it comes from.
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But don't all sit there being sanctimonious when I've seen so many of you chasing the cheapest places to buy "xyz" every sodding day on here and not caring one iota about where it comes from.+ 1
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But don't all sit there being sanctimonious when I've seen so many of you chasing the cheapest places to buy "xyz" every sodding day on here and not caring one iota about where it comes from
Well I can't claim I've not bought the odd bargain. I note though that the last 2 topics I've started on clothing and equipment were on Berghaus - quoted by you upthread as a good brand, and PHD Designs - a British based company doing all it's design and manufacturing in the UK.
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/phd-designs-winter-sale-on
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/psa-cheap-berghaus-goretex-jkts
TBH I cannot stand going into their overcrowded shops to be blasted by loud, crap music. What happened to proper sports shops like Terry Warner's?
Makes me laugh.. I suppose you think your wife's £400 Luis vitton hand bag was hand made in rural France by an old crafts man who lives in a rustic cottage and makes his own cheese!
High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/576ab904-a35a-11e5-bc70-7ff6d4fd203a.html#ixzz3v5XhV79PSir, It’s not clear if Valentina Romei, in “Three reasons why we should stop focusing on manufacturing production” (FT.com, December 11), seeks an answer to her question about the cost of the leather in a Prada handbag, but just in case she does, €95 or €100 tops won’t be too far away. For example, at an educated guess, you could say Prada will use 0.6 square metres of calf leather to make each of its Inside bags. Then there’s the nappa lining, plus the leather in the handles, plus a bit of wastage. Sourcing the best material in the world (French calfskin tanned in Tuscany, with the highest levels of care for workers and the environment) doesn’t come cheap.
High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/576ab904-a35a-11e5-bc70-7ff6d4fd203a.html#ixzz3v5Xwfg6OPrada’s website charges €2,300 for each bag, making the material cost 4.3 per cent of the price the consumer will pay, at most. Clearly, this supports Ms Romei’s argument that material costs weigh little compared to branding, advertising and retailing in the product’s “overall value”, but it is some consolation that, while Prada could execute most of those smoke-in-the-wind services anywhere, the French calfskin can only come from France and the Tuscan tanner can only produce the finished leather in Tuscany. And if 4.3 per cent of “overall value” is too little a share for anyone to make much of a fuss about leather, it would be nice if big brands’ buying departments could at least stop trying to beat tanners down to 4.2 per cent or lower in every conversation.
Leather makes a vastly higher contribution to making the bag as beautiful as it is than the 4.3 per cent suggests. That so much money and effort should go on branding, advertising and retailing brings to mind a phrase from the Argentine writer Jorge Luis Borges: in “Utopia of a Tired Man” he calls the people of our age naive for believing products to be good “just because the company that made the merchandise insisted it was good, and kept repeating the message”.
I'm pretty sure the Shimano boots I bought off Sports Direct are made in the same place and under the same conditions as the same Shimano boots my LBS are selling but so I don't make another faux pas, could someone please list which retailers are on the naughty list?
Sports Direct
Maxxis
But theres plenty of good value waterproofs, shells, bottoms, etc perfect for cycling/mtb with loads of accessories - so if you don't like it - don't but it.
If you do - then knock yourself out.
As long as you get 'loads of accessories' that's all that matters.
Do some people really fail to see the difference between securing a bargain by shopping from retailers which offer the cheapest prices, and boycotting retailers who are widely alleged to treat their staff appallingly badly?
I find that hard to believe.
Do some people really fail to see the difference between securing a bargain by shopping from retailers which offer the cheapest prices, and boycotting retailers who are widely alleged to treat their staff appallingly badly?
I simply have a boycott SD due to what the owner is doing to Newcastle United.
It's a much easier principle
No ****er pays me any extra when I'm working my stones off in the pissing rain. If you don't like it get another job. Perhaps with me in the rain...
Are the conditions at SD really any worse than say Amazon which I don't doubt just about everyone here uses.
And trust me the courier drivers who have to deliver all our online tat have a pretty raw deal. I've done a few days courier multi drop and my God it's soul destroying work.
Up to 100 drops, vans badly loaded, 2 man lift loads to deliver and only you, boss on the phone every 10 minutes seeing how your getting on. Pressure to just make the deliveries and **** the customer.
Properly shit work.
Lots of shit jobs out there, SD are but one...
Do some people really fail to see the difference between securing a bargain by shopping from retailers which offer the cheapest prices, and boycotting retailers who are widely alleged to treat their staff appallingly badly?
How many on here shop at Next who were exposed for their appalling treatment of 'apprenctices' the other week...
...ALL major retailers work their staff as hard as they can.
ammyuk - MemberAnd? Every day there's a PSA on here, a post about where's the cheapest place for.... etc.
You don't get the cheapest without someone somewhere cutting corners, wages, etc.
Can't be helped - so its a little hypocritical for people on here to start wringing their hands when you only have to look at the threads started asking the above every single day.POSTED 13 HOURS AGO # REPORT-POST
Well said, very typical of the stw trying to put the world to right without doing there homework.
Cheers for the heads up, I'll be popping in to have a look 😀
boycotting retailers who are widely alleged to treat their staff appallingly badly?
I find that hard to believe.
Are SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?
boycotting retailers who are widely alleged to treat their staff appallingly badly?
I find that hard to believe.
Are SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?
And not just staff. whilst wagon driving I have been to numerous warehouses where [i]any[/i] delivery driver can be subject to searching.
You wander round a warehouse full of high-end electronics for more than 5 minutes and try an leave without a quick pat down...
Are SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?
I had a Saturday job at C&A in the late 80s and they used to search a random number of employees as they left the building.
Nothing new, but lots of other reasons not to shop at SD
Are SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?
My first job out of uni, 20 years ago, was as a designer for a large and well known clothing brand. It was standard procedure to be searched on the way out. Not every day, but pretty regularly. Thats everyone. Not just the people who work in the warehouse.
I'd have thought its pretty standard practice anywhere where you've got a place full of easily liftable stuff that could easily be punted on down the pub in seconds.
Mind you, reading the other stuff about SD it sounds like a thoroughly miserable existence working there. And Mike Ashley comes across as a Grade A ****, but somehow that bloke who runs Next manages to come across as being even more unpleasant
outofbreath - MemberAre SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?
I used to work in Olympus Sport at Brent Cross shopping centre. We used to get searched every evening before going home. Plenty of staff got caught trying to nick stuff, so I'd say it was justified.
2 blokes who obviously weren't the sharpest tools in the shed got caught hoarding Adidas Predator boots in a 'secret' bit of the stock room waiting for an opportune moment to get them out of the building - that's it lads, nick the most expensive, high profile football boot produced and rather than just take a couple, nick 10 pairs in one go. No one will notice!
Used to work in the stock room at Primark on Kilburn High St too & random staff searches were fairly common there too...
I used to be a manager for B&Q. Every time any member of staff (managers, cleaners, visiting exec, the lot) left the store they had to pick a coloured ball out of a box. Green ball meant off you went. Yellow ball was personal/bag search. Red ball was vehicle search. Given that the highest losses of stock in retail are from internal theft I'm sure than many other companies employ similar schemes.
Perfectly reasonable imo.
No ****er pays me any extra when I'm working my stones off in the pissing rain. If you don't like it get another job. Perhaps with me in the rain...
Lots of SD staff would jump at the chance, I'm certain.
Or do you earn less than minimum wage too?
No ****er pays me any extra when I'm working my stones off in the pissing rain. If you don't like it get another job. Perhaps with me in the rain...
You could always get a job in SD.
I wonder when was the last time someone paid full price for a pair of Karrimor trainers?
Are the conditions at SD really any worse than say Amazon which I don't doubt just about everyone here uses.
I stopped using Amazon because of their tax dodging, and revelations about poor working conditions in their warehouses. I'm sure others have done the same.
But don't all sit there being sanctimonious when I've seen so many of you chasing the cheapest places to buy "xyz" every sodding day on here and not caring one iota about where it comes from.
This is just whataboutery. Doing something is better than doing nothing.
Are the conditions at SD really any worse than say Amazon which I don't doubt just about everyone here uses.
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/01/week-amazon-insider-feature-treatment-employees-work ]Nope[/url].
...but they offer free delivery for nowt, so they get a pass. 8)
and i dont get paid any more when someone is threatening to chin me but that does not mean i think everyone should experience the worst aspects of my job or that I think we should engage in a race to the bottom free of empathy for others positionsNo ****er pays me any extra when I'm working my stones off in the pissing rain. If you don't like it get another job. Perhaps with me in the rain...
i dont get paid any more when someone is threatening to chin me
/ponders.
Does that happen a lot? 😆
Sanctimonious ****ing hypocrites 😆
Get over yourselves.. As if they are gonna miss the custom of a handful of self righteous middle class halfwits anyway 😆
Someone put my felt tips back in the wrong order the other day.
You lot don't know you're born!
Please tell me all the tops were on binners?
#prayforbinners
😀 Fair point.Does that happen a lot?
Not as often as you would think given how i act on here *
* tbh it is quite surprising that no one has ever chinned me in real life for being a bit gobby.
The tops were back on. We don't talk about the incident where the tops were left off. Its best to just pretend it never happened. For everyones benefit
#prayforbinners
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Get over yourselves.. As if they are gonna miss the custom of a handful of self righteous middle class halfwits anyway
They won't miss me: I never shopped there in the first place. Anyway, if you're dim enough to believe that not doing everything is a reason to do nothing, then I'll leave you to it.
I stopped using Amazon because of their tax dodging, and revelations about poor working conditions in their warehouses. I'm sure others have done the same.
Ditto.
could someone please list which retailers are on the naughty list?
Amazon and Ryanair for starters.
And I avoid Tesco because I see too many Israeli products in there for my liking.
You seem to enjoy being a contrarian, but surely you can understand that some people prefer not to support the oppression of their fellow workers/human beings?
/sermon over
I wonder when was the last time someone paid full price for a pair of Karrimor trainers?
Are you able to - another SD owned brand.
But surely they must sell them at that full price somewhere for a period of time to be allowed to advertised them at that price?
Or maybe RRP is a let out, as it is only recommended.
What he said I also dont use them and numerous others
Nestle - baby killing monsters
Starbucks - avoid tax support your local coffee house and help the UK economy - dont drink coffee so that one is really easy
Tesco - damn they are excellent for vegans but their practices - esp planning- are poor
TBH most of them are ethically pretty poor but we have to start somewhere. The [b]ONLY[/b] think these business care about is how much money they make once they stop getting as much they will react to get more.
I do hope nobody has ordered any comedy greetings cards this festive season from the likes of Moonpig - there's a very good chance they were printed on presses from an Israeli company.
You'd drive yourself round the bend trying to avoid every company that has done something dodgy or is connected to a dodgy company.
But don't all sit there being sanctimonious when I've seen so many of you chasing the cheapest places to buy "xyz" every sodding day on here and not caring one iota about where it comes from.
This is just whataboutery. Doing something is better than doing nothing.
I think whataboutery is a perfectly reasonable defense if people are telling you you're a **** for mentioning an offer from one store whilst they happily shop at stores with similar practices.
Tesco
Absolute bastards to their suppliers. As are M&S. I'm sure they all are.
So the argument now offered by some appears to be that Sports Direct are no worse than other retailers. I have no idea if this is true but the obvious logical conclusion to explain the widespread unsympathetic reports circulating is that the media, and some politicians, have a personal vendetta against the Sports Direct owner Mike Ashley.
I'm weak on accepting bizarre conspiracy theories so I reckon that this is extremely unlikely.
Still I guess the conspiracy theory against Mike Ashley at least allows the likes of yunki, who enthusiastically engage in expensive self-indulgent hobbies - such as riding bikes which often costs more than many people spend on a car, to shop in Sports Direct while blissfully ignoring any possible ethical issues, and simultaneously saving themselves a few pennies.
Waitrose ?
What's wrong with them ?
It's not the fact that SD are or aren't any worse than other retailers more the seemingly random way that it's not cool to buy from them but it is from others according to the great and good of STWshire that rankles.
Anyone who actually believes the SD "offers" are what they claim to be is aI think whataboutery is a perfectly reasonable defense if people are telling you you're a **** for mentioning an offer from one store whilst they happily shop at stores with similar practices.
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So the argument now offered by some appears to be that Sports Direct are no worse than other retailers.
Well, just give some examples of practices that only SD do that make them significantly worse than their competitors. As yet I've heard nothing to support the contrary assertion.