[Closed] PSA - Sports Direct

No ****er pays me any extra when I'm working my stones off in the pissing rain. If you don't like it get another job. Perhaps with me in the rain...

Are the conditions at SD really any worse than say Amazon which I don't doubt just about everyone here uses.

And trust me the courier drivers who have to deliver all our online tat have a pretty raw deal. I've done a few days courier multi drop and my God it's soul destroying work.

Up to 100 drops, vans badly loaded, 2 man lift loads to deliver and only you, boss on the phone every 10 minutes seeing how your getting on. Pressure to just make the deliveries and **** the customer.

Properly shit work.

Lots of shit jobs out there, SD are but one...

Do some people really fail to see the difference between securing a bargain by shopping from retailers which offer the cheapest prices, and boycotting retailers who are widely alleged to treat their staff appallingly badly?

How many on here shop at Next who were exposed for their appalling treatment of 'apprenctices' the other week...

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/retailer-criticised-Ofsted-poor-apprenticeship/story-28313490-detail/story.html

...ALL major retailers work their staff as hard as they can.

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And? Every day there's a PSA on here, a post about where's the cheapest place for.... etc.
You don't get the cheapest without someone somewhere cutting corners, wages, etc.
Can't be helped - so its a little hypocritical for people on here to start wringing their hands when you only have to look at the threads started asking the above every single day.

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Well said, very typical of the stw trying to put the world to right without doing there homework.
Cheers for the heads up, I'll be popping in to have a look 😀

boycotting retailers who are widely alleged to treat their staff appallingly badly?
I find that hard to believe.

Are SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?

boycotting retailers who are widely alleged to treat their staff appallingly badly?
I find that hard to believe.
Are SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?

And not just staff. whilst wagon driving I have been to numerous warehouses where [i]any[/i] delivery driver can be subject to searching.

You wander round a warehouse full of high-end electronics for more than 5 minutes and try an leave without a quick pat down...

Are SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?

I had a Saturday job at C&A in the late 80s and they used to search a random number of employees as they left the building.

Nothing new, but lots of other reasons not to shop at SD

Are SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?

My first job out of uni, 20 years ago, was as a designer for a large and well known clothing brand. It was standard procedure to be searched on the way out. Not every day, but pretty regularly. Thats everyone. Not just the people who work in the warehouse.

I'd have thought its pretty standard practice anywhere where you've got a place full of easily liftable stuff that could easily be punted on down the pub in seconds.

Mind you, reading the other stuff about SD it sounds like a thoroughly miserable existence working there. And Mike Ashley comes across as a Grade A ****, but somehow that bloke who runs Next manages to come across as being even more unpleasant

outofbreath - Member

Are SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?

I used to work in Olympus Sport at Brent Cross shopping centre. We used to get searched every evening before going home. Plenty of staff got caught trying to nick stuff, so I'd say it was justified.
2 blokes who obviously weren't the sharpest tools in the shed got caught hoarding Adidas Predator boots in a 'secret' bit of the stock room waiting for an opportune moment to get them out of the building - that's it lads, nick the most expensive, high profile football boot produced and rather than just take a couple, nick 10 pairs in one go. No one will notice!

Used to work in the stock room at Primark on Kilburn High St too & random staff searches were fairly common there too...

I used to be a manager for B&Q. Every time any member of staff (managers, cleaners, visiting exec, the lot) left the store they had to pick a coloured ball out of a box. Green ball meant off you went. Yellow ball was personal/bag search. Red ball was vehicle search. Given that the highest losses of stock in retail are from internal theft I'm sure than many other companies employ similar schemes.
Perfectly reasonable imo.

No ****er pays me any extra when I'm working my stones off in the pissing rain. If you don't like it get another job. Perhaps with me in the rain...

Lots of SD staff would jump at the chance, I'm certain.

Or do you earn less than minimum wage too?

No ****er pays me any extra when I'm working my stones off in the pissing rain. If you don't like it get another job. Perhaps with me in the rain...

You could always get a job in SD.

I wonder when was the last time someone paid full price for a pair of Karrimor trainers?

Are the conditions at SD really any worse than say Amazon which I don't doubt just about everyone here uses.

I stopped using Amazon because of their tax dodging, and revelations about poor working conditions in their warehouses. I'm sure others have done the same.

But don't all sit there being sanctimonious when I've seen so many of you chasing the cheapest places to buy "xyz" every sodding day on here and not caring one iota about where it comes from.

This is just whataboutery. Doing something is better than doing nothing.

Are the conditions at SD really any worse than say Amazon which I don't doubt just about everyone here uses.

[url= http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/01/week-amazon-insider-feature-treatment-employees-work ]Nope[/url].

...but they offer free delivery for nowt, so they get a pass. 8)

No ****er pays me any extra when I'm working my stones off in the pissing rain. If you don't like it get another job. Perhaps with me in the rain...

i dont get paid any more when someone is threatening to chin me

/ponders.

Does that happen a lot? 😆

Sanctimonious ****ing hypocrites 😆

Get over yourselves.. As if they are gonna miss the custom of a handful of self righteous middle class halfwits anyway 😆

Someone put my felt tips back in the wrong order the other day.

You lot don't know you're born!

Please tell me all the tops were on binners?

#prayforbinners

Does that happen a lot?

Not as often as you would think given how i act on here *

* tbh it is quite surprising that no one has ever chinned me in real life for being a bit gobby.

The tops were back on. We don't talk about the incident where the tops were left off. Its best to just pretend it never happened. For everyones benefit

#prayforbinners
+1

Get over yourselves.. As if they are gonna miss the custom of a handful of self righteous middle class halfwits anyway

They won't miss me: I never shopped there in the first place. Anyway, if you're dim enough to believe that not doing everything is a reason to do nothing, then I'll leave you to it.

I stopped using Amazon because of their tax dodging, and revelations about poor working conditions in their warehouses. I'm sure others have done the same.

Ditto.

could someone please list which retailers are on the naughty list?

Amazon and Ryanair for starters.

And I avoid Tesco because I see too many Israeli products in there for my liking.

You seem to enjoy being a contrarian, but surely you can understand that some people prefer not to support the oppression of their fellow workers/human beings?

/sermon over

I wonder when was the last time someone paid full price for a pair of Karrimor trainers?

Are you able to - another SD owned brand.

But surely they must sell them at that full price somewhere for a period of time to be allowed to advertised them at that price?

Or maybe RRP is a let out, as it is only recommended.

What he said I also dont use them and numerous others

Nestle - baby killing monsters
Starbucks - avoid tax support your local coffee house and help the UK economy - dont drink coffee so that one is really easy
Tesco - damn they are excellent for vegans but their practices - esp planning- are poor

TBH most of them are ethically pretty poor but we have to start somewhere. The [b]ONLY[/b] think these business care about is how much money they make once they stop getting as much they will react to get more.

I do hope nobody has ordered any comedy greetings cards this festive season from the likes of Moonpig - there's a very good chance they were printed on presses from an Israeli company.

You'd drive yourself round the bend trying to avoid every company that has done something dodgy or is connected to a dodgy company.

But don't all sit there being sanctimonious when I've seen so many of you chasing the cheapest places to buy "xyz" every sodding day on here and not caring one iota about where it comes from.

This is just whataboutery. Doing something is better than doing nothing.

I think whataboutery is a perfectly reasonable defense if people are telling you you're a **** for mentioning an offer from one store whilst they happily shop at stores with similar practices.

Tesco

Absolute bastards to their suppliers. As are M&S. I'm sure they all are.

So the argument now offered by some appears to be that Sports Direct are no worse than other retailers. I have no idea if this is true but the obvious logical conclusion to explain the widespread unsympathetic reports circulating is that the media, and some politicians, have a personal vendetta against the Sports Direct owner Mike Ashley.

I'm weak on accepting bizarre conspiracy theories so I reckon that this is extremely unlikely.

Still I guess the conspiracy theory against Mike Ashley at least allows the likes of yunki, who enthusiastically engage in expensive self-indulgent hobbies - such as riding bikes which often costs more than many people spend on a car, to shop in Sports Direct while blissfully ignoring any possible ethical issues, and simultaneously saving themselves a few pennies.

Waitrose ?

What's wrong with them ?

It's not the fact that SD are or aren't any worse than other retailers more the seemingly random way that it's not cool to buy from them but it is from others according to the great and good of STWshire that rankles.

I think whataboutery is a perfectly reasonable defense if people are telling you you're a **** for mentioning an offer from one store whilst they happily shop at stores with similar practices.

So the argument now offered by some appears to be that Sports Direct are no worse than other retailers.

Well, just give some examples of practices that only SD do that make them significantly worse than their competitors. As yet I've heard nothing to support the contrary assertion.

outofbreath - Member

Are SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?

No but most employers seem to understand that it's part of the job, rather than being an unpaid bonus that you do (slowly and with too few staff) once you've stopped paying them, which means you end up paying less than minimum wage. Agree that they just happen to be the whipping boy of the day but that doesn't mean they're not shitebags.

There's a risk that when you boycott one known shitebag you end up accidentally shopping at an unknown shitebag but the worst that happens is you're shopping with a shitebag... and there's a chance that you don't- so it's not a very compelling reason to shop with a known shitebag.

Re Next, tbh they're doing exactly what the government's "apprentice" scheme is designed for, it's a way to pay people less not to train them. It's fair to criticise them for that but the source of the problem is elsewhere.

TurnerGuy - Member

Waitrose ?

What's wrong with them ?

They make sexist calendars which exploit and objectify women...

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😉

outofbreath - Member

"So the argument now offered by some appears to be that Sports Direct are no worse than other retailers".

Well, just give some examples of practices that only SD do that make them significantly worse than their competitors. As yet I've heard nothing to support the contrary assertion.

Why didn't you carry on reading to the second sentence of my post? It seems a little strange.

I simply have a boycott SD due to what the owner is doing to Newcastle United.

Really - but it's the only reason I do spend any money in there. 🙂

Are SD seriously the only firm that search their warehouse staff?

No but most employers seem to understand that it's part of the job, rather than being an unpaid bonus that you do (slowly and with too few staff) once you've stopped paying them,

Nope, I worked Saturday's for a Supermarket in the 90's - all staff searches were done after your shift as you left.

They said on the BBC the SD had already addressed the 'too few search staff' problem.

Agree that they just happen to be the whipping boy of the day but that doesn't mean they're not shitebags.

AFAIK nobody's saying they're not. Merely that the OP was not unreasonable to point out the current SD offers since, as you acknowledge, they may be the current press target but nobody has come up with things they do significantly worse than their competition.

ot the fact that SD are or aren't any worse than other retailers more the seemingly random way that it's not cool to buy from them but it is from others according to the great and good of STWshire that rankles.

Hey straw mand and ad hom...well played

Nope, I worked Saturday's for a Supermarket in the 90's - all staff searches were done after your shift as you left.

Hey straw mand and ad hom...well played

It's neither.

People *are* criticizing the OP for making these offers public and I can't see any personal attack at all.

they may be the current press target but nobody has come up with things they do significantly worse than their competition.

It seems strange in that case that the Institute of Directors said last week that Sports Direct was “a scar on British business”.

Can you explain that ..... why would the Institute of Directors claim that Sports Direct was “a scar on British business”?

Example from 2014: Blacks / JD sport / Millets

People *are* criticizing the OP for making these offers public and I can't see any personal attack at all

I stand corrected - granted its pretty tame complaint from me