Plane crash in Taiw...
 

MegaSack DRAW - This year's winner is user - rgwb
We will be in touch

[Closed] Plane crash in Taiwan

28 Posts
24 Users
0 Reactions
87 Views
Posts: 18003
Full Member
Topic starter
 

Horrendous... 😯

[img] [/img]

[url= http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31125052 ]BBC news story[/url]

Terrible scenes..


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 7:34 am
Posts: 31206
Full Member
 

Jeeeebus! That is some picture.

Speculation, but I'm guessing the pilot knew he has going down and aimed for the river? If so then it sounds like his actions may have saved a good number of the passengers.

Edit: looking at the video it is less clear.


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 7:39 am
 kcal
Posts: 5448
Full Member
 

that's bad.

almost looks like the wing clipped a building?
the car/van in front either got a bit of wingtip or just dodged it. Either way - possible narrow escape.


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 8:26 am
Posts: 357
Free Member
 

The take off and landing in Taipei is pretty scary. The planes fly between high rise buildings so close you can see the people in their living rooms watching TV. It looks like the wings are only a few metres away from the walls of the buildings. Then throw the local pilots into the mix who are generally ex air force who still think they are the modern day red baron and it's an accident waiting to happen.


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 8:46 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Wow, I think the pilot did really well to get the plane into a "soft" landing.
Either way, a lot of people died 🙁


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 9:07 am
Posts: 2
Free Member
 

I wouldn't wanted to have been in the van or mini bus that the wing clips, mental. 🙁


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 9:10 am
Posts: 14804
Full Member
 

Either way, a lot of people died

Only 12 out of 58 (at the moment) which seems like a miracle. I was sure everyone would be dead.


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 9:10 am
Posts: 28550
Free Member
 

Perversely, does hitting the bridge like that actually help by shearing half the wing off and allowing more of a flat splashdown for the fuselage?

Pilot does well to both avoid the high-rises and hit the river. Could've been utter carnage.


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 9:34 am
Posts: 4414
Full Member
 

Agreed, from what we've seen so far the pilot deserves a lot of credit for the death toll being in the tens and not the hundreds.

The driver of the yellow vehicle that got clipped is probably going to need new trousers after that though!


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 10:29 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I was shocked by the TV footage but noticed the back end of the plane one of the tips of the aerlons seems shorter than the other? Would that not cause a major issue? RIP those that perished.... I can only imagine what was going through the pilots mind....no doubt similar to one of those.....OTB, I've got this, it's going to be close but I've got it, I'll make it a soft landing, oh shit!


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 10:37 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Quite amazing anyone got out alive, sad for those that died but a miracle anyone survived and as I understand it the plane ended up in the river.

Two cars had footage, obviously a trend to have cameras in cars in case of road accidents. See that quite a bit around the world now.

Pilot taking drastic action to try and get the plan down onto the river as I cannot imagine there where any other options.


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 10:53 am
Posts: 18
Free Member
 

Those stills and the video are pictue perfect my recurring nightmare, when i first saw it on bbc breakfast this morning i thought i had a false awakening (i've had it before from the same dream).

Shocking pics and terrible loss of life, but looking at it the pilot seems to have saved many lives aiming for the river and avoiding all those buildings.


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 11:11 pm
 pdw
Posts: 2206
Free Member
 

noticed the back end of the plane one of the tips of the aerlons seems shorter than the other?

The stabiliser is at the top of the tail fin, so it just looks like that because of the angle.


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 12:01 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

News reported tonight pilot called "mayday mayday engine flame out"


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 12:37 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Which if true, might explain the high rate of descent into the river.


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 12:47 am
Posts: 2980
Free Member
 

Looks like a stall, left wing drops sharply.
Can't quite make it out but it looks like his #1 engine (left) is out, can't see if prop is feathered or not.

But it looks like his #2 is turning. If his autofeather didn't work on his #1 I guess he could be struggling for performance.....
I'm sure they'll have the data pretty soon.

RIP to those souls lost.


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 1:09 am
Posts: 11508
Full Member
 

I was thinking same as Mikertroid, reckon he is trying to crash land on the other side of the river but the speed is so low the plane stalls, left wing drops and it comes down on its side in the river.

Can't see any reason why he would try to land whilst banking, or try to land in a small river he is heading across at 45 degrees, neither of those are going to end well. The only reason would be to save lives on the ground but I think from what I watched on the BBC yesterday, the far bank was not built up. (watching again, there is a green patch where he was headed but not much chance of success)


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 6:39 am
Posts: 15983
Free Member
 

No expert here, but did the pilot try and just avoid the buildings, at which point he ran out of lift, and then dropped like a stone 🙁


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 7:00 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

[img] [/img]

This is the taxi that was hit, very lucky.

Unfortunately the number who have died seems to be higher now.


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 7:35 am
 DezB
Posts: 54367
Free Member
 

[i]very lucky.[/i]

Being hit by a plane is [i]lucky[/i]?!

See that 2 year old boy, rescued from the wreckage this morning. Amazing. He wasn't even crying.


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 8:51 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

@neil, hand't seen that photo. Quite incredible. I did hear a report that the driver passed out with shock/fear.

@mike & funky - there are a few graphics which show the path from take off and it does look like the pilot was trying to find a spot without buildings, he'd diverted along the river and the area he crashed in was relatively open. My guess is he knew he was coming down with no hope of returning to the airfield and just did his best to avoid hitting a building and find an area he had some chance of a "controlled" landing


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 9:28 am
Posts: 65995
Full Member
 

neilwheel - Member

This is the taxi that was hit, very lucky.

If he'd allowed a proper stopping distance or swerved into the inside lane he'd have been fine- noob.


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 9:30 am
Posts: 2980
Free Member
 

Jamba,

Not seen the graphic, but if you''ve lost a donk on take-off and the autofeather didn't activate, you would be aiming for the gaps rather than the buildings! However in the clip the moment (about 1second in) that left wing violently dropped, no-one was flying the aeroplane or controlling its flight path as it was stalled.


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 9:39 am
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Seeing the drop from the bridge down to the river/river bank I'm amazed anyone got out alive. Really big drop and the footage of the survivors/boy drew a tear I must admit.

Is that the taxi driver sat down? I'd take up smoking if that was me there and then.


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 10:16 am
Posts: 17773
Full Member
 

hora - Member

Is that the taxi driver sat down? I'd take up smoking if that was me there and then.

I'd take up buying lottery tickets! If he'd have been 1/4 second further down the road, he'd likely be dead!


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 10:20 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Seeing the drop from the bridge down to the river/river bank I'm amazed anyone got out alive. Really big drop and the footage of the survivors/boy drew a tear I must admit.

Is that the taxi driver sat down? I'd take up smoking if that was me there and then.

If it had been onto land at that rate of descent the plane would have gone up in a fireball, killing anyone who survived the impact. Landing on water [i]possibly[/i] saved quite a few people.


 
Posted : 05/02/2015 2:09 pm
Posts: 33557
Full Member
 

Watching the footage again earlier, and reading through this thread, it's astonishing the plane came down as well as it did, the taxi actually carrying on upright after an impact like that, with the occupants surviving is miraculous. If the plane had dropped a few more feet a few seconds earlier it would have taken out the entire road, probably with zero survivors.
Certainly one of the most incredible bits of video footage I've ever seen.
Desperately sad for the families of the deceased, they really don't seem to be having a whole lot of luck with their airliners in that part of the world recently. 😐


 
Posted : 06/02/2015 12:02 am
Posts: 357
Free Member
 

The news showed the footage after the plane hits the taxi and you can see the driver get out of the car and straight on the phone and,if I understood correctly, called his boss to tell him that a plane had hit his taxi. The boss replies with 'You mean a model plane?' 'No one with a pilot'.


 
Posted : 06/02/2015 5:36 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Being reported that the plane lost power in the right engine, the pilot then stopped and tried to restart the left


 
Posted : 06/02/2015 7:33 pm