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Okay so I emailed my boss today as he is in the office tomorrow.
Essentially I am underpaid, such was my haste to get a job after the recession hit me in my last place. Last place paid £24k plus no travel expenses as 5 mins from home. Current place £15k plus travel expenses of around £1200.
The second least paid person is on £18k which is the minimum I would take, now I am prepared to hand in my verbal notice if offered less but knowing my boss he won't want to lose face (he's very proud of his achievements and rightly so). So my question what to go in at £80 a day £85 a day?
I'm off to eat dinner so will reply later.
Start at 20k and accept 18k?
Current place £15k
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I pay more tax than that in a year
What are these 'payrises' of which you speak?
well done boardinbob. You must be super.
I pay more tax than that in a year
Bloody hell, life really is a beitch - why can't we all be like you? 🙁
BoardinBob = AWESOME
hmmmm I think this could be tricky.
What's to stop your boss putting forward the case that you accepted the job at 15k?
And how do you know everyone elses wage?
What is the job? Could he simply tell you to beat it knowing that he'll find someone else at 15k?
I'm not putting you down at all, but I think that this type of thing can be difficult to negotiate once you're in.
Oh, and 15k in tax - one day I'll make that much....... one day....
I had a word with my boss this morning about a payrise. I told me to **** off.
I pay more tax than that in a year
What do you do? Any jobs going? Actually my last boss probably paying similar, quite easy just inherit a company and do sweet FA! Not that I'm saying BB is in this situation.
What are these 'payrises' of which you speak?
Sorry pal, but as can be seen I earn very little so I won't be ashamed of talking about it online. Although I'm aware many people won't be seeing a rise.
What's to stop your boss putting forward the case that you accepted the job at 15k?
Yes I did jump into the job but all these media outlets made me feel the world was caving in, I wanted a job.
And how do you know everyone elses wage?
Just through listening and I asked the chippie what he earns.
What is the job? Could he simply tell you to beat it knowing that he'll find someone else at 15k?
I design small buildings (not an architect) I'm not sure there are certainly people who can do what I do but, I'd be surprised if A) there were that many in the area. B) If he could get them to take £15k. I imagine we would both loose, me having no job and the company producing second rate quotes thus loosing money to the competition.
I had a word with my boss this morning about a payrise. I told me to **** off.
Have another word tomorrow haha!
BoardinBob - My house staff pay more than that in tax 😉
I pay more tax than that in a year
I pay more than 8 times that in tax a year.
Awful lot of poor proles on here
What is this tax of which I hear you people speaking? 😉
God there's some big headed tosspots about tonight...!
Tails, how about working for yourself? Either set-up on your own or go contract? Would that be a possible option?
My tax bill is bigger than yours is. Nur-nu-nu-nur-nur
PP -is that the kind of thing you were referring to? 😉
In my last proper job I paid more in NI, than you paid in tax BB 😈
so BoardingBob earns about 70k a year. Big Fu**king Deal! Hardly how the other half live is it? what a prick.
to the OP, good luck, I'm sure you're boss will know what you're worth, and I expect he's been waiting for you to ask.
Tails, how about working for yourself? Either set-up on your own or go contract? Would that be a possible option?
It is ultimately where I'd like to go, but I don't have great business/networking skills and I'm fairly new to the full time working world 3 years experience from uni. So feel it is best to stay an employee for the time being. Plus start up costs are £££££.
God there's some big headed tosspots about tonight...!
I think the majority are joking, besides you get the joy of knocking off their Audi wing mirrors on the commute
What are these 'payrises' of which you speak?Sorry pal, but as can be seen I earn very little so I won't be ashamed of talking about it online. Although I'm aware many people won't be seeing a rise.
Yeah, sorry, tails. Just that my lot don't do payrises, so I guess we get a pay cut every year!
All you can do is ask, if you're valued and the company can afford it you're in with a chance. You do need to be prepared to call their bluff though, if you honestly won't go somewhere else it'll probably come through during the negotiations.
It all comes down to how reasonable your manager is, it's amazing how many managers utterly rely on their staf but never see it.
"I pay more tax than that in a year "
I spend more than that on lunch in a year.:)
You lot are so easy at taking the bait 😆
I pay more tax than that in a year
I've got more than that down the back of the sofa.
I shall not be getting a pay rise for the next two years. 😕
There is a very strong possibility that I will be made redundant before I get to see any future pay rise. 🙁
I shall not be getting a pay rise for the next two years
Haven't had one in 2 years 😡
I also shall not be getting a pay rise for the next 3yrs 😐
However I paid off the mortgage today, so [s]I[/s] we now have some more free cash. 😉
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ha ha! I just got a 2.75% rise.
IN YOUR FACE BOARDINBOB!
/wipes tears of laughter from eyes with a fiver
/wipes tears of laughter from eyes with a fiver
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At least it's nice to know that being a crass insensitive idiot doesn't preclude one from earning a very good wage. 🙂
15k is exactly what I pay my STW Forum ghost-writer
Show him what you have brought to the job and how you have added value.
Dont back him into a corner and dont go to war and give him every opportunity to say yes rather than winding him up and giving him a reason to say no. You may be surprised and get what you ask for.
Only threaten to resign if you mean it!
Current place £15k
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I got more than that as a pay rise this year
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Bluff: Tell him you've got another job offer you are considering but like working for him.
so BoardingBob earns about 70k a year
I get more than that on the dole
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I told me to **** off.
But you must be used to it by now........... 😉
Nothing else to contribute as I've just noticed you're all talking per annum figures. 😳
Bluff: Tell him you've got another job offer you are considering but like working for him.
DO NOT do that unless you are prepared to walk with 5 mins notice.
if you said that to me i'd tell you to **** off to your new job.
i'd take the friendly approach, tell him you're very pleased to have had the opportunities he's given you, and now think that having proven yourself to him, you're in a position to ask for more money as you both know where you're at, and you're worth more than you're being paid. keep a smile on your face, just be calm and persistent. if it doesn't go well ( and if he asks you what you think your worth, aim a bit higher to give him room to come down, so he feels like he's cut a deal ), then start looking for something else.
good luck.
We all know there is no such thing as a pay rise. I will be paying less income tax this year unless ...the condems plan a big rise in the basic tax rate. BB et al enjoy your child benefit cut 8)
Thanks for the advice and congrats to the super high earners*
* I guarantee my bike is both nicer and faster than yours!!!
Stay for the moment has when looking for work is best to be employed.
Find a job then walk out and tell him to **** Off has you DONT have to work your notice ethier.
BB et al enjoy your child benefit cut
No kids so not a problem. 8)
tails, what did you study at uni and where (roughly) do you live?
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