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how old are you tails? if you in a full time job on that money your age can be a good point to bring up in the discussion. in a i dont live at home with my mum sort of a way.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 10:17 am
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BoardinBob - My house staff pay more than that in tax

My house staff are illegal immigrants whom I dont pay ... thus no tax !

ha !

Kidding .... IGMC.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 10:43 am
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Supply and Demand mate. Is your a particularly skilled job that only so many people can do, or could he fill it in seconds at the same level of remuneration if you did leave ?

I cant even remember what a pay rise is. Still trying to adjust to a pay reduction 14 months ago.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:09 am
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Its important to prepare for such negotiations, make sure you have a good excuse ready when your workmates ask you why you have brought in a roll of gaffa tape and a set of bombers.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:25 am
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tails, what did you study at uni and where (roughly) do you live?

I did a 2 year HND in cabinet making followed by the final 2 years of a contemporary furniture and product design degree. I'm based 15 miles from Cambridge.

how old are you tails? if you in a full time job on that money your age can be a good point to bring up in the discussion. in a i dont live at home with my mum sort of a way.

I'm 26 and yes I am living at home which I would like to move out of, but I don't want to spend half my earnings on rent plus my dad has dementia so it would mean leaving my mum alone, or at least until my sister finishes uni.

Supply and Demand mate. Is your a particularly skilled job that only so many people can do, or could he fill it in seconds at the same level of remuneration if you did leave ?

Well are there are certainly people wo will have my skill set, but whether they are in the area and prepared to work for that wage I'm unsure. Plus add to that time getting up to speed.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 11:35 am
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If you're happy in your job, and you can afford to live on the wages you earn and have a decent quality of life then I'd say stick where you are. It can't hurt to ask but don't do the 'I'll leave if you don't up my wages' number.

the more you earn, the more you spend. Its a difficult bandwagon to get off


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 12:01 pm
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Some nice replies with honest thoughts as always......and then along come the @ucking willy waving brigade (look at me look at me). What a bunch of idiots and cocks.......


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 12:46 pm
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Current place £15k

I pay more tax than that in a year

So did I until recently, be careful who you slap with your willy on the way up, be assured they will slap you with there's on the way down.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 12:51 pm
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So, have you asked yet then?


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 12:52 pm
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+1 on the don't threaten to leave.

State your case reasonably and calmly, lay out the reasons why you initially agreed to take the lower wage and why you now feel you deserve more.

If you like working there then a confrontation won't do you any good, even if you managed to bully/threaten them into a pay rise they will see you in a different light and it would most likely become a very different place to work.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 12:54 pm
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If you are serious about starting up then I'd look into it. There will be a local business centre type place who can give free impartial advice.

What do you think you would need to start up on your own - equipment wise. Could you keep working and make your own products in your own time?

What do you design/make?


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 1:13 pm
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"so BoardingBob earns about 70k a year. Big Fu**king Deal! Hardly how the other half live is it? what a prick."

I concur, doesn't mean a, any good at job or b, would want anything to do with said person, as obviously an egotistical fool who values money over self worth.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 1:24 pm
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Oh regarding the actual query, every one is dispensable, even highly paid wonderful people like BoardingBob.

and be careful in this climate where you can get 100+ people applying for every job, I'm sure the response might be if your not happy with £15k then leave and I'll get some one who is.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 1:27 pm
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or you could just do one of the following:

own him with Bombers

wee in his shoes

punch him in the goolies

😉


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 1:33 pm
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Do we need to wear helmets when entering into pay rise discussions ?
Large back packs anybody and which tyres for muddy conditions.....


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 1:58 pm
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What do you design/make?

Furniture and product are my real interest area but I have been looking at going more industrial such as cell phones/computers but they would obviously be computer renderings.

What do you think you would need to start up on your own - equipment wise.

Equipment is awkward I can make a fair bit but compared to my old work shops I have very little.

Anyway I just spoke with him and I got £18k so that's that.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 2:04 pm
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result! Nice one, bet you wish you asked for 20 now lol. Seriously though that's great.

If you do want to start up then I can help you with workshop equipment. I have many many machines etc..... If you're genuinely interested then get in touch.

And good luck.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 2:09 pm
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result! Nice one, bet you wish you asked for 20 now lol. Seriously though that's great.

i did I asked for £22k was going to ask for £20k then got my sums wrong and asked for £85 a day. Anyway that is good.

If you do want to start up then I can help you with workshop equipment. I have many many machines etc..... If you're genuinely interested then get in touch.

I'll certainly contact you to enquire this evening, as always good to find reliable machinists, powder coaters, welders. I even once used a gravestone maker to shape some marble for me, which was both cost effective and he was really interested in the project.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 2:22 pm
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D'oh....can't believe you got your sums wrong.

Still, at least you got a payrise...even if you have sold yourself short by an extra few quid a month.

If you don't ask you don't get.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 2:26 pm
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no problem tails - always happy to help.

and a 20% rise is pretty good! see if you can get the same again next year.


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 2:45 pm
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and a 20% rise is pretty good! see if you can get the same again next year.

That would be nice!! but unlikely


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 3:57 pm
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Zed - where are you?


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 4:03 pm
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I'd just like a job


 
Posted : 06/10/2010 4:48 pm
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molgrips - right now in India


 
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