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Having discovered that whilst running on roads or any hard surface gives me whole loads of pain (ongoing achilles tendon problems), I can run up and down grassy hills all day long until my heart is content - I need some suitable shoes. Probably not out and out fell running shoes though as all the hills round here involve some running on roads. What do you lot recommend?


 
Posted : 25/09/2012 6:17 pm
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The ones that fit best, I like salomon but they do fit me very well.


 
Posted : 25/09/2012 6:20 pm
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I've just bought some New Balance Trail runners, enough grip off road without being a "spiky" tread.


 
Posted : 25/09/2012 6:24 pm
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I've got a pair of [url= http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/running-shoes/new-balance-terrain-2e-off-road-running-shoe.asp ]these[/url]. They are a fell running shoes but I've used them in everything from sloppy mud to hard pack - great traction and longevity. They are very flat though. I prefer a very flat shoe - not everyone does.


 
Posted : 25/09/2012 6:26 pm
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Mrs Spud loves her Salomon Speedcross.


 
Posted : 25/09/2012 6:38 pm
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I use inov8 X talon 212, a bit spikey tread but they work well on hard pack too


 
Posted : 25/09/2012 7:06 pm
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xtalon 190 mostly - won't last long though, and might be a bit crap if your routes contain lots of rubble.
When you say a fair bit of road use, if you were doing the routes you're thinking of on an mtb, would it be enough road to stick some hybrid tyre on, or would you just stick your normal off-road tyres on? If it's the latter then I reckon most fell shoes will be fine.


 
Posted : 25/09/2012 7:34 pm
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Nike shoes have good off road grip with plenty of cushioning for the road.
The more aggresive fell running shoes are suited mainly for training and racing on the fells or very rough conditions the studs wear out quickly and they are not nice on anything but soft/rocky ground.
Most of my runs are about half and half so the Pegasus which is a neutral shoe work great for me.
Remember if its very muddy even a pair of Inov8 Mudclaws wont stop you falling on your face.


 
Posted : 25/09/2012 7:38 pm
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Currently have Salomon Crossmax Guidance shoes, definately seem to fit what you describe but as other say its what fits. Guidance version over neutral gives added cushioning and they are a solid shoe, branded for 'running on the road to the trails' type thing one of the big reasons why I bought as I always need to run on the road to get to any off road. Wiggle/CRC often have Salomon shoes relatively cheap worth a bash.


 
Posted : 25/09/2012 7:50 pm
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Been using these for a while now. Really good grip, not had any joint tendon trouble since using them.
[url= http://www.inov-8.com/new/global/Product-View-Roclite-295.html?L=26 ]http://www.inov-8.com/new/global/Product-View-Roclite-295.html?L=26[/url]


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 7:22 am
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I like my Salomon Crossmax (and I've got the Guidance version as well). Great tread, weight and comfort. Although it looks like the material at the flex point is starting to come apart after a very short amount of time. As they make a point of this flexy material being a special feature of the shoe, they may have to go back. Having said that, I'd buy another pair anyway, best running shoes I've every had.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 7:27 am
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I have been happy with my saucony kinvara shoes through the summer, so will be going for the trail version the peregrine for when the trails get muddy over winter.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 7:47 am
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I'd avoid the Salomon 'trail' type shoes if you'l be running on anything but dry trails. The speedcross ones used to be cack too, but I see they've been redesigned since I used them so will defer to those with more recent experience above. Likely to be a very comfy shoe if you've got salomon-type feet though.

As for the Inov-8 options, I love their shoes but please have a proper try of them in the shop before you buy as the fit varies massively between models. I'd avoid the lighter ones (the weight is usually in the name of the shoe) as they're pretty short-lived (even if they are excellent shoes). They have a wide choice of cushioning options - the less rocky your running the less cushioning you want (you'll get better grip).

Another option to look at for varied surfaces are the Adidas kanadia. Moderate cushioning and decent lugs on the sole make them a decent all-rounder. Wouldn't want to run more than a few miles of road in them, mind.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 8:15 am
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I guess it depends on the support if any, that you need?

I over-pronate and have found Asics Trabuco's very good indeed for a mixture of road and off road running.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 8:17 am
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Missus has just got some Brooks Cascadia 7 and rates them very highly.
More of a 'Hybrid' shoe though apparently


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 8:22 am
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Horses for courses - you do need to try a few. For me:

Salomons work well (size a half size too small, so go up half a size IME), comfy on ultras but crap grip
Kandidas last (me at least) about as long as it takes to say the name. Cheap for a reason 🙁 in my experience
NB ditto, but last longer
Innov-8 - mixed experiences. Happy to use on slippy runs up to 10k. Get Plantar in these on anything longer.

I would stress that these are my experience and others may like/hate each differently. In particularly I8s have great followings but I end up at the physios if I wear them for long runs. They just dont suit "my" feet.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 8:23 am
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When I used to live in Keswick I used to do a lot of fell running and used New Balance RX Terrain (not to be confused with the other all terrain shoes they make) as starfanglednutter above.

They take a bit of wearing in as they are very light and quite stiff but they are excellent off road and absolutely fine on road. My main run used to start with a 1 mile road run along Springs Road up to Walla Cragg and through town on the way home.

Because they are so light weight they dry out really easy and mud brushes off them well. They last forever as well. Also if you are visiting Cumbria you can pick them up cheap at the factory shops at Shap, Keswick or best for stock Flimby near Workington.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 8:26 am
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You might try something totally different: Merrell Trail Gloves

Throw out that whole cosset/stability/cushioning thing and use your feet like they've supposed to work. Just take the transition to barefooting very steadily, especially given your historic Achilles problem - I transitioned over a period of 6 months and all my leg/knee aches have disappeared as the underused muscles and tendons have gradually strengthened. Don't run in 'normal' shoes at all either.

The Merrell shoes look like normal trainers, so you don't get the funny glances like you do in Five Fingers (which are also fab by the way).


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 8:42 am
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The only issue I have with trail-gloves (apart from the sizing) is they're not that grippy. I think of them more as semi-slick summer tyres. The lack of a sharp edge at the sides or the rear means there's nothing really there to dig in and grip on muddy slopes.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 8:49 am
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Throw out that whole cosset/stability/cushioning thing

Or, maybe dont!

How many miles do you run per week?


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 8:53 am
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My wife is loving her [url= http://www.vivobarefoot.com/uk/neo-trail-mens-37.html ]Vivobarefoot Neo Trails[/url].

Same kind of barefoot deal as the Merrells and Vibrams, I guess. Video comparing teh Trail Glove and Neo Trail below.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 8:59 am
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Is it that time already?

Roclite 295s here.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 9:03 am
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Given what I'm studying/do for a living etc - I'm not even going to consider "barefoot" style shoes. My running style is just fine thanks.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 9:13 am
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Not trail specific but I use Sauccony Triumph 8 / 9's. Recommend them for all conditions - used the Triumph's on everything from road marathons to an ultra on the West Highland Way.

Most of my running is offroad and I've used a number of trail specific shoes in the past but always found them to be lacking. I guess it's personal pref at the end of the day.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 9:25 am
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NB 101 are great and cheeky cheap at the Outlet shop. I've also had good luck use from Mizuno Wave Harriers and Roclite 295 for mixed use.

Or to summarise the above posts (inc mine) get mine! They're great!


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 10:48 am
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...or get the cheapest ones that fit you.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 11:25 am
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does anyone still run in walshs on here?


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 11:26 am
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...or get the cheapest ones that fit you.

+1. I got a pair of Montrails for £30 a couple of years ago. Mailorder, didn't try them on. I won a race in them on Saturday so they must be alright.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 11:29 am
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Walsh PB Ultra in the cupboard, the wide version. Decent enough, they are *very* wide though. I never have that problem with shoes. Don't race in them any more, too many blisters from heels moving around on steep descents.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 12:53 pm
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A lot of proper fell shoes being mentioned e.g. X-Talon and Walsh's. Terroc's probably a better choice and discounted at Planet-fear ATM

If you're just going off-oad the Kanadia's are Ok, as are the NB MT100s. However running shoes are like bike tyres - you'll need to go through a few pairs before you find what works. Puma Nightfoxes are supposed to be good and often on offer at Pete Bland sports. Asics Trabuco's are also good. Brooks Cascadia are good albeit expensive.


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 1:03 pm
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I forgot to mention these @ £30:

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http://www.startfitness.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=&P_ID=47909

(10% off using code FETCH10)

Discussed at some length over on [url= http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showthread.php?16896-quot-Cheviot-quot-shoes ]FRA[/url].


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 4:06 pm
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You're Edinburghish aren't you? If so go along to Footworks in Bruntsfield. They'll spend ages checking you out and making sure you get the right shoes.


 
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Speedcross here, really like them for cross country, do a lot along the coast and through woodland, very comfy, good grip in mud and also very good in the snow/ice.
My son has Salamon Crossmax which he says he likes - cheap shoes £40ish Adidas Kanadia good starter shoe.

Wouldnt bother with Goretex as it only holds the water in, no goretex at least the water can get out. wear sealskins if very wet and muddy


 
Posted : 26/09/2012 5:34 pm
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That video was hilarious. 'Those foot-coffins you call "shoes"...' LOL!


 
Posted : 27/09/2012 1:19 pm
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I have the new balance nimmus trail that are in the video above. They have been great tbh i used them to do the spartan race quite recently which was sloppy mud and i managed to stay upright the whole time unlike some. Got the spartan beast in novemeber and will be wearing the same again as they are great 🙂


 
Posted : 27/09/2012 2:15 pm