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Yep, im confused too.. in fact confused.com
Maybe its time to compare the meerkat. 🙄
ok MOron, because no one has on this forum has said they have had one stolen, then it must be?? that is more stupid than my answer, can you not all see, no one knows if its stolen or not, so no crime yet. it seems to me that you all WANT it to have been stolen, when maybe we should all be wishing it wasnt. And Warton i bet your parents only had sex once and gave up just in case they got another one like you, are you related to Jordan or jADE GOODY BY ANY CHANCE?
It'll all go quiet soon, time for a story and bed for the 2 (or 1?) main characters...
Well its all going quiet my end because i am going out. Chase did you read all 8 pages then? fool. tomorrow i will post some pics and some otehr stuff to give you some background to me, you can make up your own mind if i am Moz as well, night night children, dont forget to clean your teeth before you go to bed
There must be something about mojo owner and an inability to write plain english.
[url= http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ibis-mojo-super-light_W0QQitemZ140352016253QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Bikes_GL?hash=item20ada1cf7d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 ]Another Mojo on Ebay[/url]
I blame the schools 🙂
And I'm not for a minute suggesting this one is stolen, just the English is incomprehensible
my no was emailled to america and come back not belonging to jungle thanx good nite ring em tomorro ok
again, just because it doesn't belong to jungle doesn't mean its not stolen. also if it is a warranty replacement the serial number wont be registered to Jungle anyway...
So, if you make Prince Regent look intelligent, what's your bike of choice?
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Hairy - that's not a brush I want to be tarred with, thanks all the same.
There's a clear case of Me, Myself and Moz going on here
[i]a quarter of my brain is more powrful than yours[/i]
This is the best thing I ever have read on these pages. I am going to use that one at school tomorrow.
thanks barry,
sorry Seven about the incomprehensible English, its just that i am getting so frustrated trying to get my point across that my typing cant keep up with my thinking. why dont you try to explain it for me, i didnt know it was nicked, didnt even consider the possibility that it might be, Moz, who isnt me didnt seem like a thief and there is no proof or evidence that he is or that the frames were indeed stolen. is that comprehensible enough.
jester (predictive text that but i liked it so left it in) when i last bought a high end mtb frame it was from a mountain biker that knew what he was talking about and came with warranty papers service receipts and the original purchase receipt. Also it sold for the price expected. Where as your seems to have no proof of ownership at all sold by a moron who knows less than **** all infact ive forgot more than he knows. For a bargain price. Now as someone who has four times the brain power of many on here does that sound right? Oh and moz i can meet you inside your local police station on tuesday morning the one just off dewsbury road if you like . Take the right after the fire station if you dont know it but i have a feeling you do 🙂
my point exactly Mick. Just because jester has no firm evidence its stolen he thinks that makes it OK, which I find annoying and very irresponsible.
However I still think he's a troll...
by the way why havent you given each other feedback on ebay 🙂
mi@k (jester amzing you were the first one to find that on predictive text!!) when i got interested in the mojo frame it had no reserve i therefore dd not know what it was going to sell for, i bid £810 trying to get a bargain, which are out there on ebay! i got outbid, at the time i was not watching the auction so it could have gone for £2000 for all i knew. then i got a second chance offer at £810 which if the frame was new £1900 from stif? ) with no shock - £300 = £1600 no Dw link -£100 inc fitting by shop =£1500 which although is a bargain isnt that much of one. when i saw it and saw it wasnt new i paid him £700 which i thought was about the right money, wouldnt you say? now i also more fool you for buying a bike for the money it was expected to go for, ebay is for bargains, using a 10th of my brain power i would choose to bid for any thing especially a high end bike when there is more than one for sale, which means i might get a good deal. i would choose to look for when auctions end during an england football match or ian unusual time, and there are bargains to be had, legitimate bona fide ones, its about being shrewd. my point which i keep saying is i didnt think it was stolen, and nobody has any proof it was, and until it the status of the bike frame is in limbo. if however it is proved to be stolen then in HINDSIGHT you are all right! if it is not proven to be stolen then you are all presumptious mugs and i havent done anything wrong and nor has that idiot Moz.
you seem to be obsessed with the size of your brain.
Warton you should be careful what you say about people you dont know! for a start its just as bad as buying a stolen bike frame?
i also thing your are ****ing stupid because when you go to buy anything the you dont ask or need "evidence" that its not stolen, do you ask macdonalds if their buns are nicked, do you ask tesco where they got there bananas, do you ask the milkman if he knew if the farmer owned the cow the milk came from, No of course not. However as i have said before if it is proven to be stolen i will give it back !
and the reason i havent left him feedback yet you idiot because at the moment its neutral but if it is proven to be stolen it will be a negative, and if you check my feedback you will see i have over 1020 positives and only 1 neg from 10 months ago so that should show that i am honest even if my judgement turns out to be cloudy on this bike frame
Speaking of Moz, where is he? He usually pops up around the same time as Jester? Let the good times roll......
Warton, it seems like you are obsessed with the size of my brain, all i said was i used a tenth of it , i didnt say it was a big brain, only that it is more powerful than yours which makes yours tiny.
Dr bakes, does everyone agree that Moz comes from Leeds, and does everyone think that i am Moz, if so why am i running a building firm in London and sitting at my desk as we speak. are you another dosser from Leeds not working? or are you knicking time from yor bosses while on the computer? before you say anything, i am the boss so i can do what i like when i am at work
Is this c@arp still going on?
do you ask macdonalds if their buns are nicked, do you ask tesco where they got there bananas, do you ask the milkman if he knew if the farmer owned the cow the milk came from, No of course not. However as i have said before if it is proven to be stolen i will give it back
For someone who is obviously a genius the above statement is possibly the stupidest thing i have ever read on any forum.
As I sit here writing code for the third largest computer system in the world, used by 20,000 end users and affecting the daily lifes of 60 million people I really doubt i have a tiny brain mate!
so post pix of the serial number on here then of the frame you have just bought. And more fool me i think not . I spent the few days after buying building it not arguing the legality of the purchase on the net. And i know the history of the frame and also have the warranty in my name. Id pay money for that. Oh i did 🙂 i can ride it with out worrying its stolen or ready to snap . Any way im bored now if its not nicked and you post the pix of the frame showing serial numbers then fair enough. If you dont post em you are worried it is nicked and with any luck it will snap on you 🙂 enjoy
aye too true Mick. I'm sick to the back teeth of this now. Fingers crossed the frame will snap and we won't hear any more of this clown.
i quite fancy a mojo. if anyone can nick me a large with a lopes link in either green or orange id appreciate it.
thanks.
i only read the first and last page of this thread so apologies if there is a queue.
"As I sit here writing code for the third largest computer system in the world, used by 20,000 end users "
Writing code for 20K users would probably not even make it into the top 500 largest computer systems by the time you add up organisations with more than 20k computer-using employees.
i also thing your are **** stupid because when you go to buy anything the you dont ask or need "evidence" that its not stolen, do you ask macdonalds if their buns are nicked
Except that when you go into macdonalds you're not buying a high value item for cheap that looks really obviously stolen.
if you are so bright why are you so dumb? do you not realise the macdonalds think was sarcasm, irony,satire call it what you will, not a real statement, i just think all the people on here so blinkered in their thoughts that the one track minds they have is clouding their reasoning. to learn to write code does it require any thought process or do you do it without having to think anymore, just like you are doing on this forum?
Lester - the ads for these bikes would be enough to make most mtbers smell a big, fat, hairy rat. A guy who knows NOTHING about bikes selling more than one very high end frame with mysteriously missing parts and no explanation of a legitimate source.
You can posture all you want, but at the end of the day you were willing to take the bargain without any proof the bike wasn't stolen. MTBers as a community can help cut down on bike theft if we make absolutely certain that when we buy 2nd hand we buy legitimately. All you need to see is receipts.
Good luck with the owners club 😕
mi@k if you look earlier i HAVE put two serial numbers on here already for both my xl carbons( with 2 numbers missing) , so dont say anything else unless you know what you are saying, i have already posted the serial numbers, saying it twice just for you!! and Mi@k if it is not stolen and it snaps on me is that fair? anyway if it does snap i will buy another one because i can afford to! you should all keep your mouths shut until its proven one way or the other, and people who eat from burger vans would think a macdonalds is a high end burger if you can understand the metaphor
Lester - really why are you bothering? You might as well just admit that you think the frames are probably nicked but you don't really care - that much is fairly obvious from your posts.
Also, try looking up the definitions for sarcasm, irony and satire - I think you will find you pretty much failed on all of them.
“If it looks like shit, smells like shit, and feels like shit, you don't have to actually eat it to know it's shit.”
llamafarmer i agree with most of what you say, except the part about clueless people selling bikes. check the ads on ebay there are lots of people who are clueless selling bikes of all shapes and sizes. some maybe thieves but i suspect most are not, there are people selling their boyfriends bike who has left, dads selling their kids bikes etc one guy didnt know anything but wanted to sell his sons bike, his son had died recently!! one woman was selling her cheating husbands etc etc. i think you are right and i am probably guilty of misjudgement because i DIDNT smell a rat, like everyone else on here who have yet to be proved right, and i still think the subject should be moot until proven either way, until then i will defend my position
Grumm i am bothering because believe it or not i do care and i am trying to help but am still peed off by people who do not KNOW anything and only SUSPECT things slagging me off. when i bought the frame i did NOT suspect Moz had stolen it, to be perfectly honest i might of if Moz had not come from Leeds. i was hoping he got some sort of deal from Stif or knew someone who worked there?
Grumm, please enlighten me, are you saying i used the wrong words to describe my statement, if so do tellme what i should have said, o are you saying that i failed abjectly in what i set out to do?
now then u bike freaks, i see no one has rung stiff and backed me up yet.
lester y dont you get gone, an idiot u say,
remember i said to you that some bikes have been stolen from jungle ?
you said im not bothered if it is
lester your the f------ idiot
uplink, it didnt feel like shit, it didnt smell like shit but your post sure looks like shit, i was the only one involved so its only me who actually knows what it felt like, as i say until its proven either way then nobody Knows anything and you are only having opinions based on the unsubstantiated rhetoric of a small cross section of stw users, which is not any sort of basis for any judgement
lester wats up, u said werent bothered wen i was talking to you, your arse seems to have gone.
ive nothing to hide and my frame is not one of them, thats why its back on e bay
Where did you get the frames from then Moz?
Certain species of birds have been observed solving "access to food" problems that, if the size of brains being an indication of levels of intelligence are to be believed, they should not be able so to do.
Let alone spend their time on STW forums... 😆
everyone i no u think im a theife and a bit thick but cum on who the fu-- is this lester, ive got the money to buy as many as want, you big headed freak
there are people selling their boyfriends bike who has left, dads selling their kids bikes etc one guy didnt know anything but wanted to sell his sons bike, his son had died recently!! one woman was selling her cheating husbands etc etc
And they all have an explanation and a link to where the bike originally came from. I also suspect those bikes are complete - the sellers know nothing about bikes, so why would they be taking them apart? Nor (I'm assuming again) do they have more than one of the same dismantled frame for sale. Some stories add up, some stink.
"ive got the money to buy as many as want"
but where from?
my view of the polices unwillingness to get involved with this is because there's other operations going on involving the same suspects that they are more keen to progress, but that's just a guess.
lester say he got the dolla, yes from bikes
this a bike freek show, if reported stolen why no one on here say they lost one ?
how do i put pic on ere
there are people selling their boyfriends bike who has left, dads selling their kids bikes etc one guy didnt know anything but wanted to sell his sons bike, his son had died recently!! one woman was selling her cheating husbands etc etc
The only time I have heard/come across this was a Suzuki TS250? that my bestmates older brother owned- until he rode into a concrete post. His dad sold it for £200 (from memory).
My point is- its a common ruse used by fencers/thieves and stealing scrotes to 'legitimise' goods.
moz- where did you get the frames from ?
someone who knows a bit about bikes and deals with cars,
wat differance it make i don no
its for sale now anyway
No Moz you are an idiot and if you remember you said some frames were reported stolen from Jungle but they werent Ibis Mojo so i didnt need to worry which i replied i dont care its nothing to do with me.
and Moz you are an idiot because started out pretending not to be the seller when in fact you are!
but the main reason you are in idiot is because you are the only one who can put a stop to this by telling us where you got them, but you wont!!
oh and i am entitled to think you are an idiot for not knowing the difference between a new frame and old one, i will give you a clue, if its scratched and dirty its probably not new
moz - i'm not gonna take the p**s out of your spelling or grammar, but your attitude seems a bit (and I'm sorry if this sounds offensive) immature. How old are you, and how long have you been trading on e-bay?
Straight answers please.
"i dont care its nothing to do with me."
which is why everyone thinks you don't care if they are nicked or not.
moz - Member
"someone who knows a bit about bikes and deals with cars,
wat differance it make i don no"
Sweet Jesus! Have you followed this thread at all?
im amazed these ****s can even feed themselves let alone deal in high end frames.
i dont care its nothing to do with me
and there's the problem Lester, can you not see that?
You've gone quiet moz (or lester - fuctifino) - is there a problem?
waswas what business of yours is it where i get my money?? if you had read earlier i own a building firm i dont smoke or drink but i love bikes
Moz i dont think you are a thief!!!! and i dont think you are stupid but i think you are acting stupidly!!
llamafarmer why do you think the bike was taken apart? there are 5 pages of frames only just in aluminium and carbon mountain bikies on ebay, not all are stolen, the most common reason, and which is waht i do, people buy nice parts and change their frames and put the parts on them. some with parts some with shocks some with headsets, none of it means anything without more info.
and i think i said i would buy another one, if i wanted to
Lester - sorry, my observation was in response to the fact that you told moz you didn't care if the frame was stolen or not.
If you make your money from a building firm that's fine, it's what you spend it on that's being diiscussed.
So moz, are you gonna carry on going all round the houses, or are you gonna start being straight with people ?. I'll give you a hint, this is what's making the people on here suspicious. How old are you, and how long have you been trading?
llamafarmer why do you think the bike was taken apart? there are 5 pages of frames only just in aluminium and carbon mountain bikies on ebay, not all are stolen, the most common reason, and which is waht i do, people buy nice parts and change their frames and put the parts on them. some with parts some with shocks some with headsets, none of it means anything without more info.
Just to recap - You said that sometimes people who know nothing about bikes sell them on ebay legitimately. I agreed that was possible, but said I wouldn't expect someone who knows nothing about bikes to be stripping them down prior to sale with no explanation of where the missing parts have gone.
Warton, that is not where the problem lies the problem is with you presumptious people presuming a crime has been committed, in fact i think most of you now want it to have been stolen to back up all your unfounded comments.
when i said i dont care its nothing to do with me, i would have said it about anything the seller told me, i had the hump because i came all that way to buy a new frame and it was used, if he had told me he had a bugatti Veyron or was married to Pamela Anderson i would have said something very similar. And if you care so much about stolen bikes what active role do you play in the stopping of stolen bikes,is it confined to forums on the web? because i suggest that means you dont really care either
"what active role do you play"
well, I don't buy frames off moz so I think I've made a start...
Warton, that is not where the problem lies the problem is with you presumptious people presuming a crime has been committed, in fact i think most of you now want it to have been stolen to back up all your unfounded comments.
No, the point is you bought a high value second hand bike frame from the back of a car without getting any sort of satisfactory explanation of its origin. The evidence presented so far suggests it's very dodgy and just about everybody on here (we love bikes too btw) would have stayed well clear because we also hate bike theft and buying that frame COULD be helping to fund/encourage it.
Would you buy building supplies from some random on ebay who knows nothing about what he's selling, but says he got it from a mate and it's definitely not stolen off a building site?
llama farmer i take your point but there must be people who just have frames in their loft hoping to build them one day, in various stages of build. i have 6 spare shocks and until i am sure which type, coil, air, etc i want to put on my new frame, it will be shockless, but i would never leave a bottom bracket in just in case i couldn get it out later, but i might sell the frame on like that. whic is one of the reasons i was more interested in getting a bargain on Mozs frame,because it was shockless and i had one, whereas someone else would have to add the cost of a shock to the frame,i didnt so i could have thoretically bid higher.
BarnsleyMitch i dont know how old Moz is but the seller was about 30 a bit gormless looking, smoked but generally pleasant enough
so why have you not posted i picture of the serial number clearly shown on the new frame? I could write a few numbers from the top of my head on here but showing them is another matter. The reason is that you now think its stolen. But dont care anyway. Also if you have so much disposable income why dont you buy new instead of dodgy stuff. To be fair this double act has gotta be a forum regular taking the p 🙂
My my, what a long thread this is turning into, and I'll be the first to admit that I've been feeding the troll as much as anyone. If Lester genuinely thought the frame was stolen, why would he continuously post on here attempting to defend himself?. And forgive me if I'm wrong, I think I've seen at least three different versions of how much he supposedly paid for it in the first place. As for moz - good laugh, but I'm not that convinced.
Yeah I'm beginning to think some extra special trolling is going on here too - still it's reasonably entertaining.
I'm still not sure whether he paid cash or paypal either...
Back under your bridge Lester/moz (mester?), and stay there until the next billy goat comes trip trip trapping.
Guess what, here's another bit of Lester's story that doesn't check out. 🙄
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barnsley i paid £50 deposit via paypal and £650 cash.
llama : i did not buy out of the back of car it was my choice, Moz gave me his address and phone number and asked me to collect from his house, hardly the actions to be suspicious of!!!!! but the train station suited me NOT moz!!
mi@k: the reason i dont n=buy new is obvious as soon as you buy a bike its worse 25% less if i decide i dont like it or want another and i take a loss, this way i can try lots of frames i wouldnt have been able to, like my Titus, like my Ventana , like my Kstrel do you see?
however i do buy new components and buy at least £50 of stuff from Chain reaction every week, Avid code 5s last week, Muddy mARYS THIS WEEK ETC ETC
the bikes have not been stripped, a name of a person i got from ? wat dose that prove, there not from stiff or jungle so this full 10 pages is about what ??????????????
yeah I have been feeding the troll and I'm sure thats what it is. As for the line asking what I do to stop bike theft. well like many on here I wouldn't buy a bike that even slightly looks like it may be stolen! thats all I can do really (apart from start a vigilante group!)
Mr agreeable get your facts right !!!!!! you are pond life, what else does not checkout
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has anyone phoned Stif or Jungle and asked for Craig yet?
Warton, you could look on ebay for all the bikes being sold near where you live and if you suspect them being stolen you could send the seller an email saying you suspect its stolen and see what happens from there??
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