[Closed] No argument Merkur razors are the best...

Ah you still don't get the relationship between working, income and expenditure, let me simplify , if you stop giving all your money away then you would have more in your pocket and could reduce your hrs further

So can you use oil with a safety razor instead of soap/foam??
I ask as i moved to oil and found the shaving experience better/less messy..would love to try Merkur as i'm sick of stumping up for the price of mach3 blades.

Sure, whatever suits you.

not many people have mentioned the pleasure factor in DE shaving.

I used to hate shaving, it was a chore. Now I actually quite look forward to it. That's worth it alone for me.

Get up, music on, shower, pop on the espresso machine, nice relaxing shave, cup of coffee while I get suited up, out the door. Around 30-45 mins. Quite enjoy mornings actually. Except my girlfriend whinging that it's too early to be listening to MC Hammer 🙂

Or to save time you can always shave the night before so you don't have to shave during the morning rush hour.

Because DE shaving can give you a closer shave you will perhaps only see some shadow of your beard in the late afternoon (3-4pm), depending on the thickness of your beard.

There you go ... simple! So now you can enjoy shaving as much as you like and as long as you like.

I'm new this DE shaving lark, having only just spotted it via this good forum.

What do the numbers correlate to? Is it the weight or length or just a manufacturers model number??

I'm totally hacked off with the expense and crap shave I get from the multi blade stuff out there so will likely give DE a go sometime soon.

I've just bought an Edwin Jagger 89 from Amazon for £15.80 delivered.
Ian

bangin on - Member

What do the numbers correlate to? Is it the weight or length or just a manufacturers model number??

I'm totally hacked off with the expense and crap shave I get from the multi blade stuff out there so will likely give DE a go sometime soon.

Numbers on blade, assuming you're talking about blade, are nothing significant for users except for manufacturing process so no need to worry.

If you referring to safety razor then that's just model number.

Remember to try different brand of blades and not to use pressure (press down) while shaving. Cheapest way to try variety of blades is to buy sample pack.

thejesmonddingo - Member

I've just bought an Edwin Jagger 89 from Amazon for £15.80 delivered.
Ian

That's a good razor.

🙂

cheers, might have a try at that Edwin Jagger, can't go far wrong at that price. Cheers 🙂

A proper razor can settle any argument

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That's a reason why they are called cut throat razor ...

Inverse willy wave: in an emergency I bought a pack of Lidl 2 blade plarstic razors with aloe lotion squeegee effect 10 for 2quid. They are absolutely brilliant. Really they are.

how are these any better than a Wilkinson sword safety razor?

I had a wilkinson sword one, I bought a Merkur 34c (I think? its a stubby little one) the merkur is better, if only because it actually weighs something, no need to pull it down your face, gravity does that.

PJ266 - Member
I had a wilkinson sword one, I bought a Merkur 34c (I think? its a stubby little one) the merkur is better, if only because it actually weighs something, no need to pull it down your face, gravity does that.

I have a 34c and it is a great little razor which can deliver a fine shave.

Best blade for me with it was a Feather.

Just had my first shave with my jagger etc, that's it I'm sold , my lips, ears and nose are still present and I didnt even nick myself, everyone including my dad whose staying this week told me I would cut myself but I've just had the best shave ever,

The following works for me:
Edwin jagger ivory db razor
Edwin jagger pure badger brush
Arko soap stick
Bowl of hot water
15 mins of time
1 pack of derby blades

skiboy - Member

Just had my first shave with my jagger etc, that's it I'm sold , my lips, ears and nose are still present and I didnt even nick myself, everyone including my dad whose staying this week told me I would cut myself but I've just had the best shave ever,

Good set up that. Needs more blades to play with but if Derby gives you good shave then so be it. It's cheap, cheerful and effective.

Just tell your father that he is missing something and that he is buying into all those bull cr*p celebrities endorsed shite. You should reprogram him ...

Now that you have started shaving using DE razor the money saved can be put to good use by reinvesting into bling bike parts instead of giving them to those celebrities shite. 😆

I did not get on with the Derby blades they cut me to bits and the shave was not at all good

For [u][b]me[/b][/u] the feathers and Gilette 7 o'clock sharps are the best with no nicks either

I must be the only one to brave the wrath of the guardianistas and go for the Israeli blades from the shaving shack.

http://www.shaving-shack.com/10-israeli-made-double-edged-razor-blades.html

BTW a rub over your face with a wet alum block like this makes absolutely sure that shaving rash etc is a thing of the past
http://www.shaving-shack.com/alum-block.html

I got some of those Israeli blades myself just trying the derby first , I got a alum stick but won't be using it unless I hack a lump out ,

Would reprogram the old fella but he's too far gone I'm afraid 71 and Irish without a positive bone in his body, gotta love him though at least he has always been consistent ,

Stoner - Member

I must be the only one to brave the wrath of the guardianistas and go for the Israeli blades from the shaving shack.

The Israeli blades are some of my favourite and if I am not mistaken they are from the same factory as Personna Red, so they are good blades. Just that some of them are unbranded that's all.

They should be similar to this ...

[url= http://www.shaving.ie/products/Personna-Platinum-10-Pack.html ]Personna red[/url]

Derby blades are fine as far as I am concerned but some don't get on with it.

skiboy - I recommend the use of an alum block regardless of whether youve nicked yourself. it closes the pores up nicely and stops rash etc.

I used bulldog poncy moisturiser but I will give the stick ago, just checked the other blades I have are Israeli crystal platinum , did feel some burn around my neck directly after using the derbys but the moisturiser sorted that,
Can't stop feeling my face very amazed by the cut,

I had a weeks growth to come off, I normally would have used fusion 4 blade and it would clog after each 1-2'' stroke , you would then spend 20 seconds rinsing it and then go for another hack, the jagger just cut straight though right down to the skin on each stroke no clogging , why the hell does anyone buy those multi head razors ?

that's exactly why Im a fan now too. I shave once or twice a week and have a very tough, thick beard to cut. With DE it glides through and I hardly have to rinse. With Gillette I have to clean their cartridge blades every inch of beard. Nuts.

Alum stick is a bit clumsy for a wipe over, the block is the size of a matchbox, and feels like a block of marble. When wet it slides over the skin with a lovely tingle feeling.

I wouldn't have thought that using an alum block all over the face was the best thing for your skin as it is only really for nicks and cuts. I've only used it a couple of times on small nicks and it is very effective but doesn't it leave a small residue?

I've found that a few handfuls of cold water does the trick followed by a decent balm - Original Source soothing balm from Boots is excellent.

If you really want a good non-alcohol aftershave balm then you should get Nivea Sensitive balm (£4.75 - £5). The scent is very minimum and does not intervene with your aftershave. You can apply before or after you apply the aftershave or simply cold water and aftershave balm.

skiboy - Member

... , why the hell does anyone buy those multi head razors ?

Because people have been told to do so or being programmed by those celebrities endorsed shite, add on to that you get manufacturers bombarding the people with the idea of "trendy fashionable high-tech" shite. 🙄

I had another cracking shave last night but I did cock up at the end.

I always use moisturiser after shaving and me paying no attention to what I was using ended up with Assos Chamois Creme 😳 instead funny thing is my skin still feels great 12 hrs later feels

I wouldn't have thought that using an alum block all over the face was the best thing for your skin as it is only really for nicks and cuts

a styptic pencil is more aggressive than the block because this block is a different compound:

...One thing that isn't mentioned in the product description is that [b]the block is composed of Potassium Alum, not Ammonia Alum, ie it's far less agressive.[/b] I find that a cold water wash/rince, wet the block, gently rub block over entire shaved area, allow to dry, dab (not rub) with cold rinsed flannel, pays dividends. Always use before after shave of any kind. So much more than the salts on a stick of the Styptic. Looks like it may well last forever too. Well worth it.

Ah! I was thinking that the alum block was just a bigger version of a styptic pencil, which it clearly isn't 😳

I don't suffer from razor burn or nicks so probably can do without but it obviously works if you need it. Does your face not feel 'tight' after using it?

Method Shaving..

I would end up in the hospital if i tried that with a DE razor 😯

no, not really. But Mrs S gets a bit of a shock if she sneaks up for a peck on my cheek right after Ive alum'd it though 😉

EDIT: Ha! And there's a coincidence: Mr Stoner Sr has just dropped in for a coffee and dropped of his spare Badger brush for me as he doesnt need it. Result!

You all need to man up and grow beards - shaving is a massive waste of time (and money judging by how much you lot seem to spend on your fancy razors) 😆

I just get the neighbours cat to lick ma chops.No need for fancy blades here!

can-uk

That guy is clearly deranged. He must have made 100+ passes in every direction and I doubt whether he had a blade in there at all.

Notice, unlike most other shaving vids you didn't see his beard growth [b]before[/b] he started shaving!

You all need to man up and grow beards

Some of us want to remain appealing to the opposite sex though (or the same sex if you're that way inclined)

Woody - Member

That guy is clearly deranged. He must have made 100+ passes in every direction and I doubt whether he had a blade in there at all.

He is definitely a cowboy I mean I know he wants to sell stuff but who are going to shave like that. Is he trying to be a celebrity or what?

🙄

Has this made a big difference over electric? or were you using disposables before?

Conqueror - Member

Has this made a big difference over electric? or were you using disposables before?

I have only ever used the cheapest AA battery driven Braun dry shaver, the small black one less than £10, for travel use but the plastic tilting mechanism inside the shaving head broke even without using it after a while. Yes, I hate buying batteries as well.

My daily routine was Gillette sensor twin blade cartridge but that put me off big time when the price increased so much while the performance decreased. I mean how much! It clogged badly too. [b]It is a sign of being rip off when you find security tag on razor cartridges ...[/b] I mean when is shaving such an up market thing? The end came when I tried to prolong the use of the cartridge by cutting myself badly.

Then I switched to disposable, cheap & nasty plastic thing, but after a while & few shaves later same happened again as I cut myself so they all ended up shaving my ex's legs.

What a revelation since switching (I tried DE in my early 20s but I move to something more "trendy") to DE safety razor and what a fool I was for not switching earlier. No more cuts, smooth etc and highly economical in addition to being stress free. Yes, buying the razor & brush might be slightly expensive at first but then you see the saving almost immediately.

Can goo? No way, shave stick soap is only 50p.

Take too long to shave? Since DE razor gives closer shave you can shave night before and will only get shadow late in the afternoon at around 3 - 4pm.

🙂

My wife and children bought me a custom brush for my 40th birthday.

The handle is made out of faux horn and the knot is a 24mm Simpsons super badger set at a loft of 48mm. It's a scrubby thing which is perfect for face-lathering 🙂

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seriously considering a Merkur

where can I get a relatively cheap brush and soap from?

Conqueror - Member
seriously considering a Merkur

where can I get a relatively cheap brush and soap from?

This would be a useful thread for you

[url= http://www.theshavingroom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5931 ]clicky[/url]

Just got new EJ this morning,lovely bit of kit,free Derby blades,smooth shave first time out of the box.
Ian

I've got a merkur Futur.. had it for christmas off the missus.. it's gorgeous, coupled with [url= http://www.trumpers.com/product_detail.cfm?ProductID=111547251 ]This[/url] shaving is no longer the chore it used to be.

For those considering it, after the initial outlay of a decent razor and brush it's way cheaper in the long run that using cartridge shavers

OK I concede if you only shave twice a week then a DE makes sense over a modern multi-blade but how many people actually only shave twice a week (presumably none have a job where a 'professional' appearance is required...). And people talking about 15 minutes for a shave, christ I'd rather cut my wrists with a DE razor than do that each morning. And I also call BS on shave closeness (assuming you're shaving daily and not trying a one-pass go on a week's growth...). I can't feel stubble on my face after shaving with a multi-blade, exactly how do you get closer?

Just admit it's all just a niche thing where you can experiment/fettle with blades, bodies and brushes and give yourself an imagined sense of accomplishment :p Yes I get ripped off regularly buying mass-market modern multi-blades, yes a big chunk of that goes in paying muppet sports personalities for TV advertising but the end result is still quick, convenient and as good as any self-done shave will be. Espouse the cheapness of DE shaving by all means but don't BS that's it's a better result...

FuzzyWuzzy - seeing as you've not tried it how could you possibly know it's BS? DE shaving can be quick, the thing is it actually becomes enjoyable so you take a little more time.
How can it be closer? becuase the blades are better and the razor can be more aggresive than a multiblade thing (Gillete don't want people nicking themselves do they) so it gets closer.
If you haven't tried it please don't make uneducated comments.