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they might, tho it didn't seem to matter to bush that the people had voted for gore...
So, he's not running as a mormon then...
Is he just going to suspend those beliefs if he gets in? I think not.
Christ is going to reign from Jerusalem & Missouri?
You couldn't make it up ffs. Except they have.
The man is an argumentative moron, sorry, mormon.
as usual south park tells distills mormonity to the essentials
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Dum dum dum dum dum, dum dum dum.... 😀
Met loads of Mormons, seem generally nice people. And their beliefs aren't that much weirder than Obama's professed faith.
Met loads of Mormons, seem generally nice people. And their beliefs aren't that much weirder than Obama's professed faith.
I think an important difference is that Obama wasn't a Bishop in his "professed faith" and doesn't seem to have religious views that sound very worrying to secular people like me.
To the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
In light of your failure in recent years to nominate competent candidates for President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. (You should look up 'revocation' in the Oxford English Dictionary.)
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except North Dakota, which she does not fancy).
Your new Prime Minister, David Cameron, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections.
Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.
To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
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1. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour,' 'favour,' 'labour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix '-ise.' Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up 'vocabulary').
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2. Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as ''like' and 'you know' is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take into account the reinstated letter 'u'' and the elimination of '-ize.'
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3. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.
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4. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting grouse. If you can't sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not ready to shoot grouse.
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5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.
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6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.
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7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.
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8. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.
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9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. South African beer is also acceptable, as they are pound for pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.
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10. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie Macdowell attempt English dialect in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.
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11. You will cease playing American football. There is only one kind of proper football; you call it soccer. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).
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12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the South Africans first to take the sting out of their deliveries.
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13.. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.
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14. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776).
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15. Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups, with saucers, and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus strawberries (with cream) when in season.
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+1 Wors!
I think Laura Trevelyan has had a few drinks down at South Beach.
Christ is going to reign from Jerusalem & Missouri?
Its as good a place as any, i for one reckon he'll sit on a golden throne on top of mount everest, he will be able to see everything from there wi his super jesus eyes and his voice will bellow across the plains, oceans and tundra proclaiming his will to all mankind.
+1 on Laura trevelyan
election day is like Xmas + nye + mardi gras for these journos
she'll be sniffing coke from the cameramans biceps and making the intern dance naked on the beach by the time the results are in
really like your style Wors
How can anyone in this day and age actually believe in an all supreme being or deity such as a "God" figure who made/designed man and every other creature on the planet, it astounds me to think that to be president you need to have a belief in "God" and show it publicly, to myself a true belief in God shows a valid admission of insanity.
I truly fail to see how any reasonable person who has the most rudimentary education can still believe in an omnipotent supreme being, what's the difference between a belief in God/believing God communicates to you and a schizophrenic hearing voices in their head? - i fail to see a noticeable difference.
I truly fail to see how any reasonable person who has the most rudimentary education can still believe in an omnipotent supreme being
Hehe.. nice irony there 🙂
she'll be sniffing coke from the cameramans biceps and making the intern dance naked on the beach by the time the results are in
Let me just think about that for a minute. Ok I'm off to bed, night folks 🙂
Laura's had a black coffee 🙂
whatever, how the hell anyone can vote Mitt Romney to be The ****ing president of The United States. Seriously? This horrible right wing dick?? really?
Is it just new that feels that other countries of the world should each get a vote, in a similar way to the separate states?
It's actually rather useful to watch the US States call either republican or democrat, any state that has an inbred majority that votes republican is added to my "places to never visit list"....so thats south carolina, kentucky, indiana, west virginia so far.
I don't think i'd get let into the states anyway due my past indiscretions so i guess it's all immaterial but it's nice to know what states have the largest population of ****ing nut-jobs
It's quite concerning, after a quick poll of my colleagues, Romney seems to be favourite. The major reason being Obama wants to help people. They also don't think his Mormon faith should be considered, but are convinced Obama will turn the US to Islam. They're not idiots, just unfortunately prone to listening to people who may be.
They also don't think his Mormon faith should be considered, but are convinced Obama will turn the US to Islam. They're not idiots, just unfortunately prone to listening to people who may be.
Well in my book that makes them idiots.....
They're not idiots? Are you sure? I'd suggest there actions speak otherwise.
If you readily accept what you're being told, without at least questioning the motivation of those telling you it, and maybe looking at an alternative opinion, then that pretty much fits the dictionary definition of an idiot, surely?
Perhaps I should have easily persuaded. Colorado has been hammered by commercials, diatribe and opinion.
edit, I'm not defending them by the way, I wish they hadn't voted the way they did. I don't see how anything here will improve with Romney in charge.
The advertising/propaganda they run over there is absolutely gob-smacking! Mind you, so is what they pass off as 'news'. Makes you sort of thankful for the eye-roll, as you reach instictively for the remote, as a party political broadcast on behalf of the lib Dems makes a thankfully brief pre-election apearence
t's actually rather useful to watch the US States call either republican or democrat, any state that has an inbred majority that votes republican is added to my "places to never visit list"....so thats south carolina, kentucky, indiana, west virginia so far.
That's a shame, as many of those states are stunning and the people are friendly - it's just they're a bit deluded. Weirdly I'm rather fond of Texans.
I'm sure they are "stunning" but i have never been interested in visiting the states and the older i get (40-gulp!) the more i agree with my reasoning, when i go abroad i tend to go for at least 4-6 months at a time which rules out any country where you cannot live for £5 - £10 per day.
(Although i do plan to visit my fathers sister in Canada as she has a cabin/studio in Halifax, Nova Scotia and a cabin up the Yukon somewhere, it's so isolated that you need a canoe and many days travel to reach it - my kind of place i think.)
Definately, I really want to try to move to Canada - my ideal setup would be a house in the suburbs then one a couple of hours outside Vancouver in the wilderness that I can retreat to. That would be bliss.
The worst Americans I have ever met were rich upper class New York democrats with that accent that sounds like they're attempting to be British. I always put on my poshest public school accent that I can muster and try to out snob them.
Wors, that's genius, thank you!
Yeah, Canada would perfectly acceptable for myself, no question about it, a small cabin up the yukon and perhaps a proper trail hound that can run with the bike all day as well and i'd be more than happy with my lot.
I have to say I've never really met any objectionable Americans, all those whom i've met have been really nice/educated and almost apologetic when the subject of American politics or the like is brought up, i guess if you travel abroad as an american then you are automatically in the top few %.
+10 Wors...
I'm sure they are "stunning" but i have never been interested in visiting the states and the older i get (40-gulp!) the more i agree with my reasoning
That's the wonderful thing about prejudice, it's just so comforting.
Hahahaha, this guy is unelectable without the media BS!
Why exactly was he running for president?
To promote the illusion of choice.
Hahahaha, this guy is unelectable without the media BS!
They both had PLENTY of that:
[Obama] and Mr Romney, as well as their respective allies, have spent [b]more than $2bn (£1.25bn)[/b] - largely on adverts in swing states.
Not that you can believe anything in the mainstream media though.
What does YouTube say? 😉
That Moron and the other one OBAMA spent $2 billion on media crap when there are entire tent cities of people and we're heading into a winter.
The US elections including the electronic voting system is a joke!
Too right!
That video is just scary.
It also explains to me why I'm not really interested in the US elections - it is a different world. In Romney's case a different [i]planet[/i].
america also spent $6.5 billion on halloween costumes and candy this year
its a big country
not that the election money isnt obscene or anything
Exactly graham, he is completely unelectable and not even worth considering, Obama is doing everything the money men want. The only way to move out of the recession is to get the US banks under control and the other banks and create an environment of stability and trust between normal hard working people and the banking system.
Obama has no real power the entire democratic voting system is simply a con to fool stupid people into handing over sovereignty and as such control of their lives to rich people.
Name one political party that made a real difference or wasn't about as much use as a wet fart in a stuck lift!
This is how the US banking system collapsed
These bastards paid of the loan rating companies, then made money selling loans that were dodgy, then they insured the loans so that they would get paid when they eventually collapsed.
Not too mention how much legislation they had changed to do so and how many people warned about the collapse, everyone involved benefited from the massive fraud committed and they are all still employed in the banking system?
Or they have got Obama under their thumb.
america also spent $6.5 billion on halloween costumes and candy this year
Source? And I don't mean some bloke off the tele. 😈
Obama is doing everything the money men want.
Erm.. surely Romney is the Republican: generally in favour of big business and low business taxes, no social care, aggressive foreign policy etc?
[url= http://www.mittromney.com/sites/default/files/shared/TaxPolicy.pdf ]Romney pledged[/url] to lower corporate tax by 25%
[url= http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/07/news/economy/corporate-taxes/index.html ]Obama also wants to lower corporate tax[/url], but pay for it but eliminating tax breaks and introducing new minimum tax rates for US companies that hide assets offshore.
I would have [i]thought[/i] "the money men" would have preferred Romney.
Not really look at what Obama is getting away with over sea's, do you think all of the drone strike and other shit would have been socially acceptable under Bush?
Obama can get away with a lot more shit than any white president ever would have, he got the Nobel prize before he had even done anything?
It's obvious that Obama is very well connected, his rise to power has been meteoric!
kaesae - Member
Hahahaha, this guy is unelectable without the media BS!
Why exactly was he running for president?
Because they knew he had no chance of beating Obama. Their [b]real[/b] candidate will be at the next election where Obama cannot stand.
Two points.
1) that money spent doesn't disappear. It goes to TV stations, who employ people who get paid, it goes to local print shops and truck drivers and whatnot.
2) If you don't spend it then someone else will, and you'll lose. That's why tight controls on political advertising (like we have here) are so important. We get plenty of coverage of the actual debates in the commons and moderated discussions on news programmes etc - we don't need totally unmoderated spin being blasted into our homes constantly.
That Moron and the other one OBAMA spent $2 billion on media crap when there are entire tent cities of people and we're heading into a winter.
Not quite true. Combined they spent 1.6B and 400 million dollars IS quite a lot but most of that (all but 200M or so) is raised funds so not government or party supplied. Not sure that the people who donated 1.4B dollars would have donated that sum to helping their fellow citizens or their country out of trouble.
That said, it works out at $5.14 per person in the US. For the UK the number is closer to $1 per person. If the US was to ban PACs and SuperPACs from also raising and spending funds, they'd be down to approx $1 as well.
Mormon, mormoff.
Because they knew he had no chance of beating Obama. Their real candidate will be at the next election where Obama cannot stand.
This is kind of the feeling I got too.The Republicans can't be [i]that[/i] stupid. Be interesting to see who is lurking in the shadows...
Is there a republican version of Boris? Seriously I think the govenor of New Jersey is being lined up for '16.
When it comes spaffing money on election campaigns, you have to look to Europe I'm afraid. the Americans have got nowt on the Italians
Say what you like about the filthy old goat Berlisconi, but his party funding wheeze was the work of utter corrupt genius
1. As you approach an election, make all political parties state funded, with massive funds available
2. Spend all your now state-supplied funds to advertise in the media. All of which you own.
3. Give yourself a load of free advertising too
4. Watch all your opposition try to counter your advertising blitz by spanking their now state-supplied funds to advertise in the media. All of which you own.
5. Win election
6. Sit back and count all the millions of taxpayers money you've just funneled into your bank accounts
7. Invite a houseful of underage hookers round to celebrate
This is how the US banking system collapsed
Great to see you bak with more research Kaesae.
Now, where did you get those frames from?
Obama is doing everything the money men want.
Romney has said publicly, and repeatedly, that the trouble with the economy is that American Banks and Corporations are massively over-regulated, and need freeing up from these constraints.
Exactly the same conclusion that any well-rounded, sane and rational person would have come too after the events of the last 5 years or so. Lehman Bros? Enron? AIG? Goldman Sachs? To name but a few. All obviously the victims of massive state interference, clearly.
Can you find me the bit where Obama said anything like that?
kaesae - Member
Not really look at what Obama is getting away with over sea's, do you think all of the drone strike and other shit would have been socially acceptable under Bush?
He only invaded 2 countries in his first term.
[quote=Coyote ] Be interesting to see who is lurking in the shadows...
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All obviously the victims of massive state interference, clearly.
Thank goodness we have (finally) got that straight! 😉
The odd thing is how people perceive the TARP bailout though. Most think this was Obama, when it was Bush. But then gets confusing when Rep's increasingly object to it and Democrats favour it. Funny old world!
2016 - the delightful Ms Clinton in the blue corner versus.......?
binners, actions speak louder than words, can you show me where Obama has done anything to get the banks under control?
binners, actions speak louder than words, can you show me where Obama has done anything to get the banks under control?
Quite right.
Kaesae, actions speak loader than words, can you tell me where you got those frames from?
Er...compare the restructuring and recapitalisation of the US banks versus what has happened in Europe as a starting point? Which industry is better placed now to act as a transmission mechanism - the US or the European?
Legislation of size, structure, range of activities, compensation - all passed or WIP. In terms of restructuring banks, place the following countries/regions in order of policy publication - US, UK, Europe. Hmmm?
You just know that the Tea Party headcases will be doing the postmortum on this now and probably concluding that they lost because they were too lilly-livered and touchy feely. In fact what Romney was advocating was only marginally further from Socialism than Obama
And seeing as those hatstand-mad loons presently own the Republican party, Christ only knows what gun-toting, god-fearing, swivel-eyed, squirel-eating redneck they'll put forward in 4 years.
Perhaps Hillary versus Donald will be the 2016 low. All covered on "pay-to-view" TV!!
Isn't this whole charade a bit of a case of fiddling while Rome burns anyway? As its resolved none of the legislative paralysis in Washington, so the whole American economy is going to drop off a cliff in January anyway? Forcing a chain reaction meltdown, that will cause the implosion of the Euro, amongst other delights, and subsequent worldwide economic Armageddon?
And seeing as those hatstand-mad loons presently own the Republican party, Christ only knows what gun-toting, god-fearing, swivel-eyed, squirel-eating redneck they'll put forward in 4 years.
I keep hoping (without result) that each loss the republicans suffer encourages them to be less mental but they seem to think committing further to the slide into darkness is the only way to win. In some respects, imagine if they'd done something like select a moderate instead of Paul Ryan or toned down the anti-gay and anti-choice rhetoric. They'd have at least won the popular vote. Who knows how the swing states would have gone.
Isn't this whole charade a bit of a case of fiddling while Rome burns anyway? As its resolved none of the legislative paralysis in Washington, so the whole American economy is going to drop off a cliff in January anyway? Forcing a chain reaction meltdown, that will cause the implosion of the Euro, amongst other delights, and subsequent worldwide economic Armageddon?
What a cheery thought
Binners - yes, my point on the other thread yesterday - but Armageddon is hopefully going a bit far!!
So Greece (again today), EU budget discussions, Spanish bail out, weaker 3Q economic data, bank lending down again in Europe....not exactly a lot to make you feel good inside!
and subsequent worldwide economic Armageddon?
Here's hoping.
Once you start to question where money comes from you realise that the entire system of wealth creation in the western/developed world resembles a large game of jenga with greedy ****ers playing out of turn and grabbing any piece they can at the expense of everyone underneath.
There's a good book released last year called [url= http://www.positivemoney.org.uk/where-does-money-come-from-book/ ]Where does money come from?[/url] that has opened my eyes as to how the system works, it's rather unnerving reading and the jenga game will come crashing down at some point in the not to distant future so binners is right (gawd forbid, i never thought i'd say that - we really must be doomed), we are slowly working our way towards our own destruction.
Forcing a chain reaction meltdown, that will cause the implosion of the Euro, amongst other delights,
You are like a political Swiss Tony
there is no situation or scenario where you cannot link it to the demise of the Euro.
You are Farage and I claim my 5 METRIC euros 😉
Yeah, but money doesn't need to be anything physical, does it? As long as trust is maintained, at least...
I'm not entirely convinced that the jenga will collapse - after all, there are lot of powerful people holding it up.
And as I always tell you, when you level this at me - I'm all for the idea of a united Europe. Its a great idea!
But if you held a competition among village idiots worldwide, and everyone tried really really really really really hard, to find the most brain-numbingly stupid idea EVER! Then even they would struggle to come up with a concept as patently absurd and ridiculous as the Euro as a currency 😉
Well said that man!
I keep hoping (without result) that each loss the republicans suffer encourages them to be less mental but they seem to think committing further to the slide into darkness is the only way to win. In some respects, imagine if they'd done something like select a moderate instead of Paul Ryan or toned down the anti-gay and anti-choice rhetoric.
This,
What amazes me is that the Republicans can espouse these views and still get 48% of the vote!
This,What amazes me is that the Republicans can espouse these views and still get 48% of the vote!
And they won the house, so they could even conclude it's working. Their more right wing congress candidates won, and their more moderate presidential candidate lost
What amazes me is that the Republicans can espouse these views and still get 48% of the vote!
Absolutely! I just don''t get it either!
But the Republicans are going to have to 'do the math' sooner rather than later. Demographics are most definitely not on their side. Their white, middle class, evangelical christian, country club support is in terminal decline. Being replaced by rapidly growing ethnic populations to whom they have made absolutely zero effort to appeal. In fact in some cases (ie: Romneys 47% quip) have actively demonised. Can't see that happening any time soon though. The political wilderness awaits. Hopefully
The problem is that there are at least half a dozen distinct groups of people with significantly different values, and yet only two parties.
This is a big flaw, but it's hard to address. PR is the way forward imo, for most modern societies, but it's not even on the radar in the US afaik.
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If Mitt was a straight forward Christian would he have landed more of the votes?