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Question about the NHS Covid 19 app, please.

I’ve been checking into venues when I can, in the app settings there’s venue history with times that I checked in. But the times also show when I left, in both cases at 23:59 hours, which isn’t the case, I’d left far earlier. Obviously the 23:59 is the app checking me out by default.

Is there a check out function I’m missing? If I use the check in function on exit does the app then check me out?

I’ve heard of people getting pinged for close contact at times they may or may not have been at a venue. The app isn’t helpful in that case, especially when I’ve checked in at 13:15 and left at 15:30 ish. But the app has me there until 23:59.

Can anyone enlighten me please?


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 12:07 pm
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AFAIK, You only need to check in to a venue. they're only interested in whether you were there at all on a specific date, not what time you left at.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 12:18 pm
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https://faq.covid19.nhs.uk/article/KA-01134/en-us


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 12:33 pm
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I've deleted the app now, partly for the reason outlined above in that it doesn't give you a check out time & now I'm double jabbed there's no need to self isolate if pinged.

I have to LFT ever couple of days for work.

So what is the point?


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 12:35 pm
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Thanks.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 1:15 pm
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I’ve deleted the app now, partly for the reason outlined above in that it doesn’t give you a check out time

If you are at a venue where someone tested positive the app doesn't tell you to self-isolate: it says that there was a case at the venue and you should be extra sensitive to any covid symptoms - so it's not so important that it's missing the check out time.

now I’m double jabbed there’s no need to self isolate if pinged

If you catch covid (which isn't impossible when jabbed) then the app can notify people who aren't double-jabbed that have come into contact with you.

I really think it's needlessly selfish to not use the app.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 1:59 pm
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Precisely sl2000


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 2:04 pm
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Precisely sl2000

+1

Shame the important details of so many things haven't been communicated clearly.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 2:08 pm
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@SL2000 +1
@PrinceJohn -1

Employers/Venues also get contacted if they become an obvious hotspot.

I have to LFT ever couple of days for work.

So what is the point?

You're supposed to upload the results of the tests onto the app.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 2:13 pm
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You’re supposed to upload the results of the tests onto the app.

If only! You can upload a PCR test result but not a LFT - for that you have to use the godawful website and reconfirm details/cookies every time. The results do show up in the other NHS app, but not the test & trace one.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 2:44 pm
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You can upload a PCR test result but not a LFT – for that you have to use the godawful website and reconfirm details/cookies every time.

I've never bothered. IIRC They're missing over 1 million tests, so I'm not alone.....

NB They've all been negative.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 2:50 pm
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It's linked from the appp and a handful of multiple choice Q's then copy/paste back into the app. Not perfect but takes 2 minutes tops.

Beats the previous system for work testing where we had to WhatsApp a photo of the LTF and it's pouch to the compliance person who compiled it and pinged it all off to the NHS.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 3:14 pm
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You can check out but if you don't then it checks you out at 23:59 anyway...as said, it is more concerned about the check-in time to get an idea of who needs to be pinged. Probably could be improved if everyone did the check out as well as it would then know (I think) to ping you or not if it knew you were then when the covid surprise was.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 3:55 pm
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@DickBarton

In a roundabout way that’s what I was asking. But more to the point, how do I check out? I can’t find anything in the app to checkout with.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 4:05 pm
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And then there's this - Thousands could have isolated for no reason due to Covid app error.

Handily I'd already deleted it when the government decided to allow thousands of UEFA 'dignitaries' into the country for Euro football matches without isolation and the health secretary got caught not social distancing with his advisor against the laws he made.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 4:13 pm
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so if i went to a venue and left after an hour, then someone going into that same venue 2 hours later could generate me a ping..


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 4:41 pm
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Dear me what Guardian article is too clickbait it tells you absolutely nothing just keeps repeating the 5 day claim.

so if i went to a venue and left after an hour, then someone going into that same venue 2 hours later could generate me a ping..

If you were in close contact it’ll generate a ping to say you were in close contact, if it was because you were in the same venue you don’t and have never needed to isolate.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 4:52 pm
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No idea...I don't have the app...I use the we code at locations and it checks me and I leave it open in a browser window and when I leave I hit the check out option...


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 5:04 pm
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There’s a cancel function on the NHS England one, it expires after a short period. There is no check out option.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 5:18 pm
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You're missing the point. If you were there on the same day, touching the same surfaces, breathing the same air as others, you may have picked up the virus. If a carrier went in last thing on Friday afternoon and the place was shut all weekend, the virus has decayed without a host (ie on surfaces, handles, in the air etc).


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 10:11 pm
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But the other way round is that I was present at the venue from 13:15 to 15:30 ish, but the app has me there until 23:59.

If ten plague carriers Covid carriers arrive at 21:00 and stay for an hour the app has all of us in the same place at the same time. But we were not.

So I might get a ping even though I’ve had zero contact with a carrier.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 10:23 pm
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I suppose. Didn't think of that!


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 10:31 pm
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@bigblackshed In that scenario, you would only get an advisory that the venue has had confirmed cases and to be vigilant for symptoms.

You would only get a ping to isolate (or test regularly if double vaccinated) if the app detected other people near you that later tested positive, so if they arrived hours after you left, you would not be a contact.

So if you are double vaccinated, the worst the app can do now is ask you to get tested regularly and be vigilant for symptoms if you had a close contact, or be vigilant due to being in a venue that has had cases confirmed.


 
Posted : 17/08/2021 10:53 pm