If fighting Militant was Neil Kinnocks’s greatest achievement
who's saying that?
something which you claim was very important.
when did I claim that? Otherwise perfectly good posts undermined by misrepresentation.
Divide and rule works very effectively.
Indeed.
when did I claim that?
I took "surprised this has not been posted yet" as attaching some significant importance to the issue.
You also said it helped to "end the tory years" (despite the fact that it didn't because even after Militant had been expelled Kinnock still managed to lose his second general election) which also suggests it was very important.
Your words not mine:
One thing he did do to help end the tory years is kick out the infiltrators who’d hijacked the party.
Surprised this has not been posted yet
But if you don't think it was Neil Kinnock's greatest achievement, or even a very important one, fairy nuff, I stand corrected.
So what then do you think was Neil Kinnock's greatest achievement? 🧐
Yeah but you havent actually answered my question as to how “he threw it away”?
1992? At the time, it was widely thought that his apperance at a rally in Sheffield the week before the election lost him a lot of floating voters.
Labour were looking the most likely to win, and Kinnock had been very statesmanlike through the campaign, and had won a lot of people around. The rally was held in the large Sheffield arena in front of a lot of ecstatic supporters. Rather than carrying on his statesmanlike manner, when he came on, the crowd cheered, and he bellowed back ‘woahhhh alrigggghhhttt’. And repeated it 3 times. He acted like an unfortunate yob in front of the TV cameras, and was all over the TV news at 9pm (news was 9pm then on BBC).
He looked a bit daft doing that, and it translated to the election the following week, he’d lost some trust with his handling of situations.
I think if he had come on, stood there, waited for the cheers to subside, then say something like 'thankyou for that, but our hard work has to continue, and, hopefully, we will be able to celebrate if we win this election, then get down to the real work of running the country.’ That would have been the best way of accepting the applause, but, as it was, it was like a coronation party, and did upset many floating voters. And, the TV and papers made no mention of what was contained in his speech (actually, not much different to what he had been saying all along), they only focused on the shouting/baying to the crowd, which made him look a little foolish.
@johnx2 - I feel like I've stumbled over in the same dodgy part of Hull after a night of bright pink drink in Spiders.
Fond memories of that place.
his apperance at a rally in Sheffield the week
I think it needed more flegs
This is well worth reading for a good summary of the Kinnock years. It’s very funny in a depressing kind of way.
