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A cursed car yes that's it . It's obvious when you think about it.
I had one of those cursed cars - wing mirror ripped off, front bumper ripped off, lorry drove down the side of it, both sides of the rear bumper marked due to other cars nicking them, front wing gouged, two cracks in the windscreen, keyed down the length. None of them my fault but I had to deal with it all at my cost (apart from the lorry incident - I managed to track them down and get them to admit liability). Both my wife and I agreed it was cursed.
So it went back in September and my very carefully parked brand new car was hit on the drivers' side 20 hours after I got it by a drain cleaning wagon (witnessed) but Yorkshire Water denied having a vehicle in the area and won't admit liability.
😥
So actually no, cars aren't cursed. I am.
Putting all of the above to one side, there are a lot of grey areas when it comes to causing damage to a car. I always think when I see people using a strimmer near a road that if it threw up a stone that went through your window, how would they feel about being presented with the hefty repair bill? In my mind they are liable to pay for the repair. Someone leaving their property next to the road that can topple over and cause damage to a car is liable to pay for the full repair. But...only if the car was there, not if the driver parked it next to a bin that looked likely to blow over in a strong wind.
Surely given that it now has more that an expected amount of superficial damage you'd be better of reverting to original plan of keeping it for a while after the PCP matures ? That way you won't have to pay the silly money to get it back to 'acceptable' for return, and if you sell it after 5-10 yrs, it will just be regular wear and tear by that age and won't impact it's value much ?
Or do you just want a new car 'cos this one isn't perfect anymore ?
Im starting to think its blooming cursed
You don't call it Christine by any chance?
iainc.... yes that is what will probably happen now tbh.
Life is too short. Got more important things to worry about/deal with.
You don't call it Christine by any chance?
I wish mine was Christine - at least it would repair itself 🙂
We bought a tatty BM after the stress of having a new lease car, its the only time I ever claimed off the insurance because I dented the door (my fault) and my bike fell off the roof on holiday and dinged the roof (still probably my fault TBH)
Latest car is less tatty than the old one, some tit walloped it with their door in a car park, not accidentally either, parked too close, whacked our car, then pushed the wing mirror out of the way. I was miffed at first and thought about chasing them through the insurance, but in the end, it's just a car. I'm hoping that one dent will be like a cat and keep the other dents off it's patch.
I was trying to keep it dent free for as long as possible so all this within the first year is a bit disheartening.
I'm hoping that one dent will be like a cat and keep the other dents off it's patch
Wrong analogy. More like a dog. One dent attracts others to come and have a go.
Or more precisely - you will keep on parking in carparks and your car will keep on getting whacked. Witness the state of school-run cars.
my wifes a school teacher.....she parks outside the school
she wonders why im fitting a new gearbox rather than replacing her car....
every single panel is dented or scratched and both bumpers are cracked..... it wasnt like that in the beginning i think if it was new id be having a breakdown over it also.
I was trying to keep it dent free for as long as possible so all this within the first year is a bit disheartening.
MrsTHtobe managed to drag ours round a concrete pillar in a multi story within 3 months of getting it. It, and all subsequent 'issues' will be fixed the week before it goes back....
It's just tin and rubber
Jamie - Member
If a bin falls in the woods and hits Renton’s car, does it generate 5 pages?POSTED 6 DAYS AGO # REPORT-POST
Yes, clearly. How prophetic. 😆
'pride and joy??????' It's a bloody car! Sorry but I can't abide car pride, I just don't understand it at all.
If you like your neighbour then I would just live with it and move on. Little ripples give character anyway, if you drive past a shiny shop window you might just be able to see them in the reflection. Just be happy in the knowledge that your Skoda is a little bit special.
In your opinion.
One of my best cars was a 20 year old Volvo 940 estate I bought for £250 with a year's tax and MOT.
It's very liberating not to give a crap about your car.
It was slow and soggy to drive, but it got me and ALL my stuff where it needed to be, and it did have a certain charm. Easy to fix too!
Someone trying to merge into you in your lane? Have it buddy, see if I care.
How far back to you reverse such a big car? Until it hits something then pull forward a foot.
Need to leave it out on a city street on a Saturday night? No bother.
Sold it a year later for £265 with no tax, mot, water in it and one window was made of gaffa tape.
The first dent is always the worst.
Unless you get hit by a Defender. But that's a different story.
'pride and joy??????' It's a bloody car! Sorry but I can't abide car pride, I just don't understand it at all.
You dont understand how someone can have something new and unblemished and want to keep it that way
Buy a new bike and I will hit it with a hammer to give it a nice dent and then buckle a wheel to see if it helps you understand
You dont understand how someone can have something new and unblemished and want to keep it that way
I don't really get car pride either. I mean, if it's your pride and joy and you want to keep it immaculate - keep it in your house! Keeping your 'pride and joy' outside and dragging it round congested city streets and then getting stressed when it gets marked is madness to me.
jambourgie - MemberI don't really get car pride either.
It's really quite simple to explain: cars are likely to be the biggest, most expensive toys we'll ever own, so of course we'll want to keep them nice.
Having said that, it's just an Octavia FFS, it's hardly special.
A car for everyday use is a utilitarian object, as opposed to let's say a classic car, restored to more than the condition it originally left the factory. As such, surely the road to sanity and inner peace and tranquility, is to be pragmatic about the level of condition one aspires to maintain said utilitarian object.
The aspiration to maintain it to the same condition as when it left the factory or showroom, is, IMO, one that is unobtainable and to have that aspiration is where madness lies.
However, as I have said before: We each of us make our own worlds.
Ultimately of course, it's all stuff. Watches, cars, coffee makers etc etc... Cathexis, or objects of desire. Does the ownership of any of these items provide us with true, long lasting and meaningful happiness?
No, is the truthful answer, unless ones ego is so strong that ones life is one big falsehood. But feel free to make your own world's 😉
/patronise mode off 😀
Ultimately of course, it's all stuff. Watches, cars, coffee makers etc etc... Cathexis, or objects of desire. Does the ownership of any of these items provide us with true, long lasting and meaningful happiness?
If my house was burning down and I could only save one item, there is only my guitar that is irreplaceable (albeit inexpensive).
Nothing else would I particularly miss.
Having said that, it's just an Octavia FFS, it's hardly special.
It might not be special to you but it was my first brand new car.
If my house was burning down I would save my family.
If my house was burning down I would save my family.
You describe your family as an item? 😯
You heartless bastard, it's no wonder you cherish your car so dearly.
[quote=sbob ]cars are likely to be the biggest, most expensive toys
This is the difference right here - for me a car is just a way to get me and my toys from one place to another. Not that I'm all that bothered when one of my toys gets a bit scratched (given what my toys are and what I do with them, that's pretty much inevitable - the joy is in doing things with them, not the ownership). Though there's also a status thing for some people. The problem seems to be when people use their cars as a utility, but get upset as if it's a toy/status thing. If you want it to remain in concourse condition then you have to treat it the same way people treat concourse condition classic cars.
I am not trying to keep it concourse as it is used everyday so that's not possible.
I was trying to keep it dent and scratch free for longer than a year though.
And, unfortunately that hasn't happened on this occasion. Best advice I can and will offer to that is move on, let it go and be very ****ing thankful you have health, two working arms legs, eyes and you can choose to conduct your life as you so desire.
Sensible first sentence, second sentence which contradicts the first.
Aracrer... Not really though.
There is a marked difference between concourse and dent free.
Dent free = dents not visible to an unsuspecting person not looking for dents
Concourse = no slight distortion even when you peer down the side of the car checking to see if it's still perfect
I think there may be some room between not caring about its condition and not using it and treating it like an ornament .you want to keep it immaculate - keep it in your house! Keeping your 'pride and joy' outside and dragging it round congested city streets and then getting stressed when it gets marked is madness to me.
Always extremes on stw and no middle ground between the two
It really is possible to own a car and try to not damage it and be annoyed if it gets damaged.
Junkyard, judging by some of the replies to this thread apparently it not.
[quote=Junkyard ]Always extremes on stw and no middle ground between the two
Well we did start with the OP where he's bothered about ripples which aren't visible unless you look for them, and now he's claiming he's not trying to keep it in concourse condition.
Looks it not what i want to do with a car nor do i want to clean and polish my bike after a ride.
However if someone does I can see why they are angered/annoyed/livid/out out/perturbed by an avoidable accident damaging their thing.
Aracrer you are just being a dick now.
I've seen and been around a few concourse cars over the years. The things are clean enough to eat your dinner off.
My car is no where near being that clean as it used everyday.
What I'm trying to do is prolong the inevitable dents and paint chips etc.
Just because I want it to be dent free doesn't mean I want it to be in showroom condition. Ive always had it preached to my by my parents that if you look after your stuff then it will look after you. What's exactly is wrong with taking a bit of pride in my car. Just because you don't it doesn't give you the right to take the piss out of someone that does.
Non of the damage on the car has been caused by my hand.
There's some weird attitudes on here.
Someone spends a lot of money on something, could be a car, could be anything else really. It's new, it's shiny, they like it, it makes them happy. Then a week later someone comes along and damages it. And this makes them upset, maybe even angry.
Now, this might not apply to you. You might not agree with it. And that's totally fair enough. But if you can't [i]understand[/i] that then either you're being wilfully obtuse or there's something wrong with your critical thinking ability.
Those who don't get it - do you have paint / wallpaper in your living room? Artwork on the walls? Would you be cross if someone spray-painted a cock & balls on your front door? Why? It's just a house, something functional to protect you from the elements. Do you have a nice watch? All it does is tell the time, my £2.99 Casio does that. An iPhone? A blinged-up bike? A designer suit? A big telly?
People like nice things. The specific objects of their interest may vary. This surely is not a difficult concept.
Your point being?
Wheaton's Law, I guess.
Personally, It's not that I don't understand that people like nice things and want to keep them like that etc etc... Fair enough, me too.
What I don't get is the masochistic thing about having the nice shiny stuff on the street and wanting it to stay that way. I just find it hard to fathom why people would put themselves through the stress of it?
Cougar - Moderator
Those who don't get it - do you have paint / wallpaper in your living room? Artwork on the walls? Would you be cross if someone spray-painted a cock & balls on your front door? Why? It's just a house, something functional to protect you from the elements.
That analogy doesn't go. Yes, I do have nice stuff in my home. But a similar thing would be having lots of expensive delicate fabrics etc in a house full of kids and dogs and then getting stressed cos they're getting dirty.
And if someone painted a cock on my door? Well, after I'd stopped laughing I might paint over it. Or not if it were a good rendering. But I should imagine that would be a much more rare occurrence than getting my car dinged.
Who said anything about stress? It's just annoying.
OP: I'm cross about something.
STW: What's there to be cross about, get over it.
You might not care if it happened to you, and that's totally fair enough, but the OP has every right to be cross / upset about it. Empathy fail.
[quote=Cougar ]Those who don't get it - do you have paint / wallpaper in your living room? Artwork on the walls? Would you be cross if someone spray-painted a cock & balls on your front door? Why? It's just a house, something functional to protect you from the elements. Do you have a nice watch? All it does is tell the time, my £2.99 Casio does that. An iPhone? A blinged-up bike? A designer suit? A big telly?
Paint yes - kids in the house so none of it is immaculate. Pictures on the walls, yes - they're still fine as out of the way of the kids (actually far more precious to me I have irreplaceable trophies from races I used to do - the more delicate ones got moved). No nice watch. A functional phone which has a broken screen because it gets used - I've just got a replacement and didn't shed any tears. Several blingy bikes, all with chips and cosmetic damage, because that's what happens to bikes when you use them. Currently my most important "stuff" is rock climbing gear which I couldn't care less how it looks as long as it works.
The point isn't that it's unreasonable to enjoy having nice things, but that life is better with a bit of perspective when things predictably get damaged (to some extent I've completely got over valuing my life by how nice my things are). Because cars get dents, bikes get hit by rocks or rubbed against walls, phones get broken screens - if you actually use them, if you want them to stay immaculate hang them on your wall.
Though it's worse than that - and apparently I'm a dick for pointing this out - the remaining damage to the car renton is bothered about here isn't even visible to an ordinary person, so a sense of perspective completely solves the problem.
Though it's worse than that - and apparently I'm a dick for pointing this out - the remaining damage to the car renton is bothered about here isn't even visible to an ordinary person, so a sense of perspective completely solves the problem.
No need to twist my words fella. I said you were being a dick trying to compare a concourse car to my everyday car.
Let me ask... You say about your rock climbing gear, although tatty still functions fine. If you were to lend it to someone and they broke a bit of kit would you be like "oh well" or would you expect them to replace it.
The point a out the car is yes, the dent is less visible now ( looks a bit worse than I thought today in the bright light) but it wasn't there at all before the incident so am I being unreasonable for it to be put back as it was ? I don't feel I am ?
You say a out your rock climbing gear, although tatty still functions fine. If you were to lend it to someone and they broke a bit of kit would you be like "oh well" or would you expect them to replace it.
Your car's not broken though.
At the end of the day it's a Skoda FFS.
At the end of the day it's a Skoda FFS.
But not any old load of concours.
FWIW
Renton, I agree with you. I'd be mighty pissed off and if I know who opened their door on the wing of my car three days after I received it I'd be asking for them to repair it as well. In your particular case it also sets a precedent - if it happened again your neighbour could say "well it didn't bother you last time..."
That said, whats done is done stop stressing over it or you'll have a bloody heart attack. And stop posting on here and letting the middle classes wind you up with their different perspectives on your view.