[Closed] More Religion on the Beeb

Don’t pay the license fee?

I seem to remember that the Beeb runs under a charter from the head of the Church of England. To be expected if so.

How do I opt out?

As Kenny Everett once said ‘You’ve got a knob, use it’.

and the person running that shift...is an atheist! go figure. personally i couldnt care less.

The beeb needs to represent the diversity of license payers. Lots of folk still have faith and pay a license fee so it seems pretty fair to me.

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and the person running that shift...is an atheist! go figure. personally i couldnt care less.

God is a gas anyway.

I dont have milk and accounts is now offshore.

Religious interest in rhe UK is at an all time low and declining making the rationale given for this change even less plausible.

Religious interest in rhe UK is at an all time low

All the more reason to try and boost its profile, no?

no Jamie, no

Awaiting the BBC's concern with "balance" to be outlined, regarding this propaganda assault.

I don't like football.

The BBC show Match of the Day EVERY WEEK! Every single week! This is intolerable and shows that they are run by fruitcakes.

How do I opt out?

Oh yeah. That's right. I don't watch it, and enjoy something from the 99.9995% or so of their content that isn't about kickball instead

CFH, but it’s cooler to complain about religion. It makes you look more knowledgeable.... surely you know that?

wilburt - Member
Forget Brexit and Trump the beeb has decided it needs to increase spending and coverage of old religous cults.

Proof if needed that the organisation is run by fruitcakes.

How do I opt out?

Anyway, never mind all that- what are you getting everyone for Christmas?

Football is a distraction for people who need to watch a sport.

Religion is a disgraceful attempt to prevent progress and enlightenment by brainwashing children into dogmas based on superstition.

The moderator is using a straw man argument to try and appear "even-handed" or the like, but in fact is merely aiding the forces of regression in their attempt to return us to the Middle Ages.

Merry Christmas Woppit!

Bring in the Match of the Day format to the religious programmes, post sermon analyse and replays is what we need.

Well said Woppit.

Religious fatalism is the greatest enemy of people in developing countries. Your family is wiped out in a minibus crash or your child dies because it is given fake drugs in hospital or a politician steals all the country's money. What do you say? "It's the will of God, what can I do?"

avdave2- 😆

But yeah, **** religion.

"It's the will of God, what can I do?"

Is that similar to the will of the people? Both are crap.

Religious fatalism is the greatest enemy of people in developing countries.

Do they watch the BBC too, bet they haven't even got licenses.

How do I opt out?

A seasonal anti-religion thread. Wonderful

How the celebrations at the altars of gluttony and conspicuous consumption are more fulfilling for all

Bloody Auntie

Religious fatalism is the greatest enemy of people in developing countries.

Not disease, famine or war then?

Bring in the Match of the Day format to the religious programmes, post sermon analyse and replays is what we need.

I'm all for it if we get exposure to a wider selection of religious music from around the world:

Really ..another ****ing religion thread ?

With Bernice as a pundit.

Well I was thinking of Woppit in the role of analyst in the manner of Alan Hansen, "you'll never win anything with god"

In times of disruption and change, uncertainty and dissatisfaction some people turn to Religion for guidance.
Some people turn to KFC or 2ltr bottles of coke.

I know who’d I’d side with.

If you’re not happy with Religion being on TV, turn it off.

strictly come dancing exists.

How do I opt out of this cold, mirthless existence?

The most unequal and oppressive societies in the world also tend to be the most religious. So with the car crash that the UK is becoming with falling incomes, underfunded services, housing crisis, gig economy the beeb deems that all it has to offer is more religion to fall in line with this trend. If the telly were to reflect religious participation rather than identification then your aerials will soon be pointing east.
Fortunately I don't need to turn it over, or off.

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I'd tune in for more if this!

Not disease, famine or war then?

A lot of the treatment and cures of fatal diseases are being ignored in developing countries due to religious teachings: can't use condoms so you roll the dice with AIDS, and don't go to the western doctors if you have malaria or Ebola and use their evil western medicine - go to your local priest or witchdoctor and eat some dried Lion testicals ground with camel dung and say a prayer instead.

We've been there on war and the religious justifications and the part religious dogma plays in recruiting people to fight wars before - it's a chicken before the egg argument. We often say the AK47 is the most lethal weapon ever devised by man, but a man is required to use an AK47 and in most cases the man who does operate it is doing so after being whipped up to fight for religious reasons. So religion as a weapon to recruit the AK47 operators is a far more dangerous and lethal weapon.

Do they watch the BBC too, bet they haven't even got licenses.

They may not watch the BBC, but we're often told they listen to the BBC World Service though.

Really ..another **** religion thread ?

And here you are, reading it and commenting on it.

There are 877,176 threads on the forum. There is probably almost as many TV programmes. Watch / read something else. In't choice brilliant?

Hmm. Shall I join in or not? What do you think?

Who cares.

It depends whether or not your "devil's advocate" costume is back from the cleaners I should think, molgrips...

The irony is, the Beeb intend to have less debating/arguing about religion.
Leave that to the 'net eh?

More Religion on TV I say, And bring on the angry threads filled with people frothing at the keyboard, such entertainment.

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Mr Woppit - Member

It depends whether or not your "devil's advocate" costume is back from the cleaners I should think,

Thought you didn't believe in the Devil?

Make your mind up, will you?

😀

So with the car crash that the UK is becoming with falling incomes, underfunded services, housing crisis, gig economy the beeb deems that all it has to offer is more religion to fall in line with this trend.

😯

It depends whether or not your "devil's advocate" costume is back from the cleaners I should think, molgrips...

Hmm.. it's probably more a case of taking exception your egregious attitude Woppit, if I'm honest with myself.

perchypanther - Member
Mr Woppit - Member
It depends whether or not your "devil's advocate" costume is back from the cleaners I should think,
Thought you didn't believe in the Devil?

Make your mind up, will you?

Nothing in that paragraph suggests a belief in an invisible magical being of any sort.

You must be a bit dim.

You must be a bit dim.

Yeah, I hear that a lot.

It's the lack of mental sharpness. Lots of folk comment on it.

It's probably all the brainwashing.

Like i said..... Merry Christmas!

And so it begins.

Just a heads up we are offering free Christmas breaks.

Cougar ..thanks ..perhaps you would care to act as my personal reading filter and let me know what I am / am not allowed to read and comment on ?
Or is this thread purely for only those who are believers ..

Nothing in that paragraph suggests a belief in an invisible magical being of any sort.

You must be a bit dim.

ooh, look at grumpy there.

You need a bit more brotherly love in your life. (1 John 4, vv 19)

Brilliant troll from the OP!

There's some intolerant and brainwashed people on both sides of the religious argument. 😆

Although, I suppose if you take the Albigensian view, "the devil" is precisely what the official forms of the Christian religion are and by extension, the other silly versions of the same superstition.

You'd have to believe in the whole ridiculous and laughable premise in the first place, though.

Merry Winterval.

Hmm.. it's probably more a case of taking exception your egregious attitude Woppit, if I'm honest with myself.

😆

I'm an atheist but there are a handful of posters whose approach to this argument has me running for the nearest bible...

I don't think you mean merry anything do you Woppit? You just want people to be pissed off.

This thread needs closing tbh.

Who made YOU Pope? 😆 😀

Is it time to point out that capitalism and socialism are essentially forms of religion, therefore we are already awash with religious programming (the news and current affairs).

I’m praying for you Mr Woppit. God bless

Cougar ..thanks ..perhaps you would care to act as my personal reading filter and let me know what I am / am not allowed to read and comment on ?

You can read and comment on anything you like. I just don't see the logic in actively taking time out of your day to read and comment on something you seemingly have no interest in, and popping up just to basically go "well this is shit" adds nothing to discussion. It's utterly bizarre behaviour. Reading the entire forum isn't mandatory you know.

jonnyboi - Member
I’m praying for you Mr Woppit. God bless

Send me your address so I can invoice you.

You can read and comment on anything you like. I just don't see the logic in actively taking time out of your day to read and comment on something you seemingly have no interest in, and popping up just to basically go "well this is shit" adds nothing to discussion. It's utterly bizarre behaviour. Reading the entire forum isn't mandatory you know.

does that mean you have a particular interest in people who comment on things that they appear to have no interest in?

asking for a friend

ok, I'm supporting Mr Woppit 🙂

Religion is a disgraceful attempt to prevent progress and enlightenment by brainwashing children into dogmas based on superstition.

can't see anything untrue about that statement. Why do we complain about religeous cults when they involve adults but freely allow minors to be indoctrinated?

Having any faith schools in this country is a disgrace.

Children from religious families are less kind and more punitive than those from non-religious households, according to a new study.

: (colon for the benefit of Junkyard, if he is reading...)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/06/religious-children-less-altruistic-secular-kids-study

It must be the basis for a large percentage of actual racism in the world - people regarding where they were born as an act of god rather than a crapshoot, and therefore justifying their views of 'other' people.

Add to that the justification for regarding people from other religions as different as well.

Reading the entire forum isn't mandatory you know.

[i]Now[/i] he tells us!

Cougar ..almost as bizarre as you having to take time out of your day to comment on it!
My point being ..not that it was "shit " as you so wrongly interpreted ..but the fact that as it wasn't too long ago that we had the last " religion " thread that seemed to drag on forever ..was there any real need for another ?..
Again though thanks for your concern ..and for allowing me to choose what I'm allowed to read and comment on ..appreciated 😐

I just don't see the logic in actively taking time out of your day to read and comment on something you seemingly have no interest in, and popping up just to basically go "well this is shit" adds nothing to discussion. It's utterly bizarre behaviour.

See 50% of the posts on the U2 thread

Reading the entire forum isn't mandatory you know.

I beg to differ 😉

I have nothing of use to add regarding religion or the beeb, i'm just working my way through the threads

Cougar ..almost as bizarre as you having to take time out of your day to comment on it!

Take time out of his day! This is his day haven't you noticed. He leads such an empty unfulfilled life without the love of god in it that he has loads of time for such frivolity.

Is it time to point out that capitalism and socialism are essentially forms of religion, therefore we are already awash with religious programming (the news and current affairs).

An interesting theory which I read about in Sapians. Hard to argue against yet hard to fit in to one of the boxes either called Religion or Real Things in my head.

They're discussing this on Radio 2 at the moment. I just caught a couple of minutes when I nipped out for lunch, Jeremy Vine was interviewing a "healer" who teaches holographic breathing...

Jeremy Vine was interviewing a "healer" who teaches holographic breathing...

Then surely we should have a slot for him/her as well.. After all we need to represent all of the BBC's customers... 🙄

Somehow I don't see my local vicar inciting much hatred or religious war. Maybe I'm just not watching closely enough?

How the celebrations at the altars of gluttony and conspicuous consumption are more fulfilling for all

Many of us are able to decide for ourselves how to live our lives, rather than relying on instructions from an old book.

Many of us are able to decide for ourselves how to live our lives, rather than relying on instructions from an old book.

And what about those that aren't, what should they do ?

Many of us are able to decide for ourselves how to live our lives, rather than relying on instructions from an old book.

Which book is that Mary Berry’s?

And what about those that aren't, what should they do ?

Shun their wives and sell their daughters into slavery.

Which book is that Mary Berry’s?

Not [i]that[/i] old.

You've got to remember, if you're criticising this, that religious programming doesn't just appeal to the religious- for exactly the same reason that so many churchgoers don't believe in god. It's a nice thing to have on the telly. Music, nice pictures, people being happy together. You don't have to ride a motorbike to watch the racing and you don't have to have a god to enjoy the godding.

Religious programming is dirt cheap to make, so that's a positive. But it should be representative. Right now it's an anglican-fest which is daft- their numbers have fallen by 50% in the last 20 years, and today they account for only 15% of the population. Catholicism accounts for 2/3ds as many people so should have 2/3ds of the air time. Other christian sects should have more. Bring on the muslim mainstream screen time too. Other religions should have their share though that gets pretty small once you're past the big 3. There certainly shouldn't be a second more for protestant christianity til the others have equivalent representation, I'm sure anyone can see the fairness in that.

I suspect that'd make most of the people who support this lose their shit, too, so it's got to be worth trying.

It’s actually not about more religious programmes, it’s about adding into story lines for soaps and such.

Its about increasing coverage.

Some people like a bit religion, some don’t but they are advocacy groups of dubious record so shouldnt have an increasing influence within a state broadcaster.
Its that influence thats obvious here which makes this different from providing coverage if sporting events.

Humans have been putting their feet up in winter for tens possibly hundreds of thousand years before the JC story was written btw so the holiday doesn't belong to any religion.

Overall a questionable decision.

Brexit is a religion. It doesn't seem to have done us much good having lots of that on the BBC.

So the BBC has begun it's religious propaganda assault on the airwaves with the "Today" programme.

Accompanying the usual "(alleged) Thought for the day" drivel we had a completely fawning, uncritical review about the oft-touted christian apologist C. S. Lewis, an intellectual midget with all the writing skills of the average 12-year-old scribbling about "what I did on my holidays".

Well done for listening to all of it. Must have been awful.

You can never take the whining out of the british,they take it with them,all wrapped up safe.