[Closed] Modern Art - SPOILER ALERT

I'll be the one dropping my trousers and bending over again.

You should be so lucky, Master Safety has a prize winning bum, don't you know?

You should be so lucky, Master Safety has a prize winning bum, don't you know?

I hear it's not all it's cracked up to be.

Have I got it now?

yes. whatever meaning you think might be an intrinsic part of my statement is correct.

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Don't cry Elfin, It'll be all arty like.... I'll wear my suede jacket, yes... the one with tassles 8)

So, what I have learned:-

Elfins bottom may or may not be perfect

If we took a photo of said bottom and then I copied it using a pencil and paper it might be art

Tracy Emins unmade bed is art becuase it's worth money

This whole thread is about a film I've not seen

I'm a peasant

Art is an opinion - where as I thought the opinion was one of artistic merit. So anything can be art, no matter how rubbish it is

Am I missing anything?

Am I missing anything?

yeah, Elfin is a prince

Charlie Reginald Mungus to your bedroom now! No soggy biscuit, no sexy donut, just you and some time to think about what you just said!

Who sir?! Me sir?! What sir?!

I said prince!

art is dead
artisan is bread

This thread is proving to be remarkably entertaining. I particularly enjoyed the discourse on the biscuit. Very funny, Mr Mingus.

Elfins bottom may or may not be perfect

It is actually perfect in every way, shape and form. 🙂

Elfin is a prince

That's better.

Have I got it now?

yes. whatever meaning you think might be an intrinsic part of my statement is correct.

That's quite interesting because that's what you did when you looked at the drawings, made up an opinion and a judgement based on that. The only difference being, you are wrong about their production and conclusion. Maybe the clue to viewing any art is less judgements and opinions and more thought and understanding?
I do appreciate your posts though, thanks for the info and thoughts.

I have been commissioned to drawing a STW members portrait in the past, maybe I could do an Elf one for the mag? 😯

Maybe the clue to viewing any art is less judgements and opinions and more thought and understanding?

possibly? but "thought and understanding" sounds like some kind of sympathy is required? well if it goes up on the wall then it's going to be judged and possibly an opinion formed.

the average time spent looking at something in a gallery is just a few seconds so for most people it's "do i like that?"
yes, and it gets looked at some more.
no, then move on to the next.

faced with a drawing copied from a photograph i'm going to want to go and look at something else that's going to float my boat.
i'm sure some people will want to ponder it some more but not me, personally i would rather look at the photograph or some real art.

MrSmith you are doing it again

well if it goes up on the wall...the average time spent looking at something in a gallery is just a few seconds so for most people it's "do i like that?"...faced with a drawing copied from a photograph.

You think you know how it is made and how it would be viewed all based on preconceived ideas and bias. Which you don't are you are wrong about too. Your opinion is more of a reflection on how you view art than the work of art itself.

so everyone should view the 'art' in the same way and as the artist intended?

so everyone should view the 'art' in the same way and as the artist intended?

I don't know, possibly. I've never been able to view art from a non artist (artisan :wink:) perspective. I like to think art is a shared experience. I enjoy feedback and like talking about how others see work. It can be a good way of learning. I think it becomes problematic when too many preconceived ideas kick in. I know artists who would say a painting isn't a painting unless the frame is 5 inches deep, another painter who doesn't consider anything figurative to be modern or relevant. While I think it is nice to make your own mind up or have your own rules of how you work, being focused can sometimes mean being blinkered too. I think it can be possible to be both.