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Looks like the [s]plucky Brit[/s] dour Scotch ain't going to do it.
He's starting to get a bit wound up - never a good sign.
0 - 3 in the second, 1 set down.
Never mind eh?
there's time yet - if he loses his tightness from the occasion...
Another Tim Henman, good but crumbles under the pressure? He still needs a bit of personality and charisma... he's so dull!
Lost the plot now
Did you ever think he would, he's a miserable git.
Good! 😆
Aye - he's good but not quite good enough.
He's much better than Henman!
I love the way that some of you like to jump on folk that are down. Thing is though if there's one player in world tennis that could come back and win from that position then it's the dour jock.
Wonder why both of them are complaining of sore eyes though.
I love the way that some of you like to jump on folk that are down.
Only one person expressed satisfaction that he was losing.
Perhaps they're Serbian.
Typical British performance or should us English say Scottish?
No..... We're all as bad as each other when the pressure is on arn't we?
I love the way that some of you like to jump on folk that are down
I like to jump on Murray when he's up or down. Just comes across as an anti-english miserable ****. IMPO of course!
Djokovic is on top form. Murray is going to have to play extremely well to beat him now.
Bet none of you lot have ever got frustrated at your inability to beat the world no 3.
Come on Andy attack him more.
Trouble with this final is that there are too many double handed backhands!
I always root for the player with the single handed backhand - I don't understand why an adult would keep with a double hander once they have back muscles.
Trouble with this final is that there are too many double handed backhands!I always root for the player with the single handed backhand - I don't understand why an adult would keep with a double hander once they have back muscles.
Perhaps you should tell him? I'm sure he'd be gratefull for the advice.
No he was miserable before he reached the open final and will be even more miserable after, not jumping on him because he's losing ( arrhh didums) just stating a fact he is a grump miserable uninspiring advert for his sport, have you ever hear him been interviewed send be to sleep and reaching for the prozac.
Typical British poerformance my rrrs - this performance isn't as bad as when Federer seems to be mentally subserviant to Nadal - there has been several occassions where Federer should have won but just lets Nadal push him around and seems to just not believe he can beat Nadal - that's not the case here - Murray believe he can win (which he can) and is frustrated at his tightness.
LHSI like to jump on Murray when he's up or down. Just comes across as an anti-english miserable ****. IMPO of course!
Get your head out of your backside. its been explained many times about the so called anti English sentiment.
Nothing like that enormous chip you have on your shoulder.
As for personality - he has plenty is just having been worked over by the media a few times he is now very bland in his dealings with them
TJ, the only people on this thread who appear to have a greasy shoulder are one real Scot and a fake one.
(Lobs comment, runs away to listen to the Archers).... 😀
Perhaps you should tell him? I'm sure he'd be gratefull for the advice.
Sampras's coach told him to drop the double-hander if he wanted to be a great player, worked for him. Nearly all of the great players have had single handers - Nadal doesn't count as he has had to become a physical freak to cope with his style and that is why he keeps getting these knee problems. Borg's backhand wasn't a double hander either, he just guided it with his other hand.
Ohh dear, very disappointing. His game has imploded.
yep, it is looking bad
To be fair Djokovic is playing out of his skin.
its been explained many times about the so called anti English sentiment.
The explanations have always sounded like damage limitation to me.
But that's not the reason I don't like the bloke. Apart from anything else, I don't think nationality is that relevant in Tennis - it's individual against individual (with the obvious exception of doubles and the irrelevance of the Davis Cup).
the problem appears to be that he doesn't have that inside to out forehand - he can't hit it down the line easily - his grip doesn't appear to be far enough over.
went to the wrong side on that forehand - arghh!!!
To be fair Djokovic is playing out of his skin.
He is, but he's limping a bit between points.
Great shot by Murray - a couple of years ago he'd just have given up, let's hope he can pull it back.
contrast Murray's fighting to the pathetic england football squad...
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contrast Murray's fighting to the pathetic england football squad...
wtf?
Get your head out of your backside. its been explained many times about the so called anti English sentiment.Nothing like that enormous chip you have on your shoulder.
As for personality - he has plenty is just having been worked over by the media a few times he is now very bland in his dealings with them
Not seen a decent explanation myself, quite obvious that he is a self-obsessed, spoilt, anti-english ****. No chip on my shoulder, just not a big fan of people like that, whether its anti-english, scottish, irish or any nation. No room in modern society for that sort of behaviour.
IMPO of course, don't expect you to agree with me TJ and no intention of discussing it further. 😉
Body language says it all at the moment - just turned on and Murray looks a broken man.
wtf?
that's what I always say when watching them...
he looks more like a frustrated man that a broken man, he is still fighting, whereas a broken man would be letting it slide....
Well you simply show yourself to be ignorant and anti scottish with a huge chip on your shoulder then.
contrast Murray's fighting to the pathetic england football squad...
Contrast Chris Hoy to the Cirque Du Soleil?
Contrast (pre-electric) Bob Dylan to the Brighouse and Rastrick Band?
Well you simply show yourself to be ignorant and anti scottish with a huge chip on your shoulder then.
LOL, how? I have an opinion about 1 person? That does not translate into a generalisation about a nation. Wind your neck in and get off your soap box.
Contrast curdled milk products with calcium carbonate.
Nah JohnClimber is right. It is a proper British response.
By that I mean all the negative crap on here about it.
what's fighting spirit got to do with all those spurious contrasts?
unforced errors seems to be the big difference to me.
Contrast curdled milk products with calcium carbonate.
I tried but really struggled.
unforced errors seems to be the big difference to me.
Agreed.....and the fact he served like a girl. 😉
<edit> to be fair he was well beaten from quite early on. Jokovic was on form </edit>
It must be a mental issue as he clearly has the physical game
I think the Aussies call it a "choker"
Well, that went well. 3 Grand slam finals and a combined set total of 9 lost, 0 won?
Crikey, that's some "battaling spirit" he's got there. I hope he wins one eventually, just to see the arguments between all the anti English Scots and anti Scot English! 🙂
Contrast curdled milk products with calcium carbonate
You are Colin Hunt.
Is that rhyming slang?
It was scheduled to finish at 11:30 on Eurosport, and it is now 11:25 - what did they know that we didn't - I suspect a conspiracy...
lhs - its the fact you prefer to believe an anti scottish construct faked by the media than the truth because it fits in better with your petty prejudices.
TJ - you're just looking a fool right now. I would stop whilst you're behind.
Please refer to my previous post where i stated that I hate all varieties of anti-nationism (if that's a word) incl anti-scottish. I come across it being from a different nation family myself.
TJ, the kettle and the pot?
LHS - So why do you believe the faked up construct that Murray is anti english - you should know better.
hairy - I ain't anti English - that would be really stupid given my english name, birthplace, accent, parentage 🙂
Listen to this- this is the true story of what happened.
TJ - you should know by now that there's nothing you can say in the face of ignorance and bigotry which will have any effect.
Just drop this stupid anti-English/Scottish thing FFS! Always descends into utter sh** arguments on this site nowadays.
Murray does not have charisma and it's nothing to do with the media, he was a complete boring drone when he started playing tennis before the media even got into him. He needs a good shake up as he has the potential to be a huge earning potential but I find myself not wanting to support someone who is so dour, grumpy and boring that I switch it off rather than listen to his moaning.
I suppose so. Its always good to try to shine a light on it tho.
Well you simply show yourself to be ignorant and anti scottish with a huge chip on your shoulder then.
Doesn't that apply to all scottish sports fans?
Never met one who wanted an english man (or woman) to win.
The bottom line is that his defeat has nothing to do with charisma, being supposedly "anti-english" or being Scottish it is because he didn't play well enough to beat a very good opponent.
For what it's worth I don't think he'll ever be good enough to win a major. A bit like Montgomerie in golf and Hearts in football.
it is all a mental game at that level, apart from the technical excellence of Federer - but he has beaten everyone and he just needs to learn to control himself under pressure.
Djoc has done it before and is on a high because he is enjoying his tennis after the Davis cup last year - Murray should take note.
There are parrallels between Conners who wouldn't play Davis cup and Conners also being foul mouthed on court.
I just don't like him.
He's a dull, humourless individual who bottles every major final he reaches. He got totally out classed today and lacked any response. I doubt he'll ever win a Grand Slam title.
LOL! This silly boy will never win a Grand Slam if he thinks his "McEnroe" temper will see him through. The way to break him is to wind him up to get his temper going then go for the kill.
Oh ... he does not have the look of a champ and is not a person that someone can warm up to. Nil charisma whether you like it or not which explain a lot about that person.
😆
I remember his anti-Engish remarks - supporting opposing teams to England etc.
It was a pleasure to see him loose today. I, like him, was supporting the opposing player, the Serbian.
Murray deserves some of his own medicine!
Once a racist, always a racist.
Hope he never wins!
Spongebrain - I suggest you listen to the video link above which explains the truth. You have been suckered into believing a lie told by the media.
Just open your ears and your mind and listen.
Just open your ears and your mind and listen.
You were there were you? Or are you just going on what Henman tells you?
druidh - MemberTJ - you should know by now that there's nothing you can say in the face of ignorance and bigotry which will have any effect.
Point proven Druidh.
I remember his anti-Engish remarks - supporting opposing teams to England etc.
No you don't, they never happened. It's all a conspiracy (despite Henman in that 'video' saying he heard it).
I believe he invoked the 'it was only a joke' defence, which is only one step away from 'some of my best friends are English'
Still, at least he didn't say anything tongue-in-cheek about women officials and the offside rule.
Thought not! 🙄
LHS - I saw the full interview and I think it's a shame he's been made to look like an England hater.
I think he got over how nasty the press are a long time ago though.
I think he got over how nasty the press are a long time ago though.
The press have gotten over it, but clearly the lay-man hasn't. Give over for **** sake.
Kit, I was never under it.
I personally think he will do it one day. And do it for Britain too. He may even smile when he does haha!...
the furore over the 'anyone but england' supposed comments are the reason that sportsmen and women just utter endless platitudes, precisely because no-one trusts the press to report a personal opinion responsibly or even handedly....
anyway, I'm glad he got beaten, further proof that the LTA get a ginormous amount of money that they don't deserve and do nothing with.
it amuses me that it's not enough for the great unwashed that someone has a great talent, determination and works their arse off to succeed. they are expected to be cheerful, funny, attractive, anglophiles etc. sod that.
edhornby - if you're infering that Murray was the recepient of cash and support from the LTA get your facts right. Murray wasn't a product of the LTA system. He moved to Spain in his early teens to a Tennis Academy because his family and he realised he would have a better chance of making it OUTSIDE the LTA system.
Re the final - Djokovic was outstanding, just as he was in the semi when he demolished the best player ever. He didn't allow Murray to play. Murray has beaten him in their three previous matches.
The fact Murray had beaten Djokovic in their previous 3 meetings is irrelevant. I would rather loose those three and win a grand slam!!
Think his mother may be driving force too ....she looks crazed!!
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