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I told my boffin daughter that STW has all the answers, can anyone help me win the internetz? 🙂

An excavation of an early Upper Paleolithic cave site in France gave two samples of hominid skeletons: a sample of Homo Sapiens Sapiens (n1 = 20) and a sample of Homo Sapiens Neandertalis (n2 = 20).
We are interested in establishing whether there is any significant difference between the cranial capacities of these two hominid species from this cave site.
Let X1 = 1514.6 the sample mean of cranial capacities (cm3) for the Homo Sapiens Sapiens specimens, and X2 = 1553.4 for the Homo Sapiens Neadnertalis.
Also, the sample standard deviation is s1 = 78.4 for the first and .s2 = 74.7 for the second group, respectively.

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If one rejected the null hypothesis when the absolute difference of the two is 45cm³ what is the probability of a type 1 error?

She's been working at this for 5 hours apparently, and neither her or her friends have any idea.


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 8:30 am
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And it needs to be for a 't' test not 'z' test...............

What language even is this?


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 8:44 am
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standard errors 'n'shit, innit ?

(that's as far as my massive knowledge goes though)


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 8:46 am
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5%
If we want to be 95% confidentr of rejecting the null hypothesis then there is a 5% chance we might make an error
Means & SDs are irrelevant


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 8:56 am
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Oh, maybe they're supposed to shove the figures in using various "T" factors and see which one just gets it right ?

If the absolute difference is changed to 45, then at least one of the samples must have changed and so you couldn't rely on the SDs or means

(I iz not a sassystishan)


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 8:56 am
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donncha - they'd only know that it was (less than) 5% if they used the values of T corresponding to that confidence limit*. I'm sure it's possible to calculate the actual CL, but not by me

*(he speculated)


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 8:58 am
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What about 45cm cubed bit, was the reply I just got, she managed the CL


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 9:02 am
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from an on-line calculator:
mean1 eq: 1514.6 (variance= 6146.56) (se= 17.5308)
mean2 eq: 1553.4 (variance= 5580.09) (se= 16.7034)
Probability that var1<var2
p=0.41764 (left: 0.5824; double: 0.8352)
Difference between means:
M1-M2=1514.6-1553.4=-38.8
sd=149.27; se=24.214
95% CI of difference:
-86.2593 <-38.8< 8.6593 (Wald)
t-difference: -1.602
df-t: 37.5; p= 0.05868
(left p: 0.9413; two sided: 0.1174)
Equal sd assumed
Difference not significant at 5%


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 9:08 am
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By jove, I think you've done it, my Daughter now believes I am a genius and managed all this over a cup of tea and a digestive.

I will of course own up and give due credit after I have finished basking in the sunshine

Thanks guys


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 9:08 am
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Dunstick
What class is this for?


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 9:08 am
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So what was the answer?


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 9:10 am
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Oh hang on, she reckons that online calculator is for a z test not a t, Donncha, 2nd yr Maths degree statistics

She got the ci as -17.72 and 95.32


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 9:25 am
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Does this make any sense?

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Posted : 20/11/2014 9:37 am
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Apparently 'Saying that the means and sds are irrelevant for a type 1 error' was the crucial bit she was short of


 
Posted : 20/11/2014 9:45 am