[Closed] Marcus Rashford

He’s a legend! I love the way he’s stayed true to his roots and speaking out with real honesty and conviction

And what a finish against PSG last night!

Nice to see normal service has been resumed in the Tory party. Voting for the most underprivileged kids to go hungry

I absolutely ****ing despise them. How do you sleep at night having just done that?

He's a legend. The only person ever to play for Man U who isn't a massive **** 🙂

How do you sleep at night having just done that?

The trouble is binners when you feed poor children they develop a dependency on food you see, very unfortunate. We mustn't encourage them.

Very humble guy, aware of how fortunate he is in terms of his wealth and fame at such a young age. Is obviously extremely hard working and dedicated to have capitalised on his natural talent and has a social conscience. Pity about his club!

grum - funnily enough I think my local mp (Mark Jenkinson) believes exactly that!!!
However he does seem to getting upset at his little friend being picked on on by a mean lady and being called scum so perhaps he has a heart after all... 🤣

@grum Yeah, especially when you can't put them in workhouses no more.

It's totally galling, but utterly unsurprising. In the same way that they've justified nearly $200 billion for HS2. So saving a few minutes on the journey time to London is worth so much more than helping vulnerable families.

Marcus seems like a totally determined person though, so I can imagine the campaign will go on for some time.

I can't see Marcus letting this drop.
Will check to see how my tory MP, caroline johnson, voted; actually, don't need to bother with that - she has never voted against her party.
Time for another email to her.

For those interested on how their MP voted.

https://votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/896#noes

Im just waiting for the Tory lapdogs in the RW press to start attacking him in earnest

My Tory MP appears to have abstained. She has gone against the party whip on a few occasions in the last year.

I hope Rashford contiues to push the case to these self-serving and mendacious Tories. As someone pointed out on TV today, on the one hand we have families who can't afford to provide decent, nutritious meals for their kids (a situation that is likely to get worse as the large areas of the country suffer from various levels of lockdown and the consequent loss of income and jobs), and on the other one Boris Johnson MP who complained he couldn't cope on his £150k salary, not forgetting all the free accomodation etc. that come with the role, and also I assume he is still writing columns and raking in funds from the Daily Telegraph. We really are living in some abnormal, dystopian times.

I absolutely ****ing despise them. How do you sleep at night having just done that?

You can't despise them that much since you spent maybe 75% of your posting time on here in the run up to the last election berating the only party able to beat them in a general election, and anyone that supported Labour. To spend all that time saying that Labour were a disgrace to anyone that would listen, then being appalled that the worst Tory party in thirty years got in when middle aged white men up and down the country were screaming their heads off about Corbyn being dangerous instead of focusing on the real threat to the nation is hypocrisy.

I don't know who Rashford is other than for his campaign, but good on him for at least making people think about the injustices this government are committing to the poor of this country.

Dom and Dommer, after giving him an MBE to burnish their ‘men of the people’ credentials, have now started a campaign against him.

Classy

Some Tory bell end stood up in parliament today and accused a lad who is passionately determined to try and end child hunger of ‘celebrity virtue signalling’

There really are no depths to which this lot won’t descend too. I think Angela Rayner’s description of them today is about as accurate as you’ll get

https://twitter.com/aameranwar/status/1318988846818885632?s=21

And let’s not get into a ‘everybody who doesn’t love Jeremy Corbyn is Tory scum’ nonsense, eh? It’s been done to death on a multitude of other threads

Brendan Clarke-Smith, what a lovely chap he is!

I wonder if he'll work in cyber after the next election?

I wonder if he’ll work in cyber after the next election?

Should he lose his 14,000 majority, I imagine he will go back to teaching.

And let’s not get into a ‘everybody who doesn’t love Jeremy Corbyn is Tory scum’ nonsense, eh? It’s been done to death on a multitude of other threads

Narrator: After banging on about how shit Corbyn is for years, Binners suddenly doesn't want to talk about why the Tory scum are in power.

I dont think i have ever witnessed a vote that has been so heartless and callous, i dont know how these c* sleep at night. Grown educated adults just positively voted to allow children to go hungry. To persecute a child for its parents shortcomings or circumstances is frankly appaling.

Angela Rayner should have resorted further back and used "the only good Tory is a......" quote

I seriously hope all those who voted Tory in the Red Walls take a long hard look at this and wake the * up. You weren't forgotten and left behind Red Wall folks - they didnt know you existed until Cummins turned you into an opportunity.

I dont think i have ever been this angry.

Narrator: After banging on about how shit Corbyn is for years, Binners suddenly doesn’t want to talk about why the Tory scum are in power

We know full well why the ‘Tory scum’ are in power.

Because of the pious, self-righteous, sanctimonious, middle-class sixth-form self-indulgence that enabled the Labour Party to be marched off into the electoral wilderness by Jeremy Corbyn that, as predicted, led to two election defeats, the latter one enabling the thumping great Tory majority that has allowed them to do what they’ve just done today.

The blame for that lies squarely at the door of the people who were responsible for instigating that lunacy. It’s hardly like you weren’t warned.

Anyway... are we really going to do this all over again?

It’s all rather played out, isn’t it? The evidence is now wrecking lives on a daily basis as Keir Starmer, Andy Burnham and the grown ups try to repair the damage. In the meantime we’re stuck with this lot for the next 4 years. And they’re only just getting started

Cheers Jezza!

And where is he? Hosting dinner parties in contravention of lockdown down rules

Solidarity comrades

Ah Binners, always looking back on the glorious days when he was promoted to useful idiot.

Has anyone seen Corbyn's brother on tv.he is a nutter.

Has anyone seen Corbyn’s brother on tv.he is a nutter.

Yep - remember him from the Big Breakfast days when he was talking about his weather-prediction stuff. I'll admit, I found it interesting.
But seems to have gone truly bonkers since. Although, in-between the complete gobbledygook there are some interesting points - just lost in the noise.

I think the only reason he was allowed on telly recently was to discredit his brother.

Piers Corbyn's weather prediction method uses solar activity to predict the weather for the next month. It's actually interesting and often quite good.

I'm not sure if he still does it as he's gone "full retard"* nowadays

* Tropic Thunder reference

Should he lose his 14,000 majority, I imagine he will go back to teaching.

Mefty has summed it up, Tory voters simply not bothered about taking meals away from 1.4m children, they're actually pleased, because it's sticking out to the lefties

The issue is that, to admit that many children don't have food all year round means admitting that the benefits system doesn't give people enough money to live on.

Some tories in the debate voted against as they said it was fixing symptoms instead of causes, however I didn't see them talking about how to fix the causes. And the symptoms are now not being treated either.

It's heartbreaking, immoral and unjust.

And I've just discovered on that list that an ex-lodger and tenant of ours is a Conservative MP (Miriam Cates). She voted against, yet at the time she and (now) husband stayed with us, she worked on a homeless and vulnerable families project in Sheffield. Of all the people who should understand the impact of poverty.

We know full well why the ‘Tory scum’ are in power.

Because of the pious, self-righteous, sanctimonious, middle-class sixth-form self-indulgence blah blah blah....

Blah blah blah ....And where is he? Hosting dinner parties in contravention of lockdown down rules

Solidarity comrades

Yes, of course - because a worryingly hysterical hatred/fear of Corbyn played no part in enabling the right-wing press to ease the ever-competent sockpuppet Johnson into power.

I wouldn't go anywhere near as far as to call you Tory scum, but you certainly sing their favourite hit of 2019, with gusto.

Oh good. Another thread diverted onto me being told the error of my ways by our resident Corbynites

*yawns*

Why not start another thread about me, when you can all chunter away to yourselves about how everything is my fault and I'l pop in every few days to post a picture of the PFJ?

Flattered though I am with the attention, can we get back on topic please?

My own Tory MP, one of the new 'Red Wall' Brexiteer, Boris-fanboy nodding dogs has voted for this, as we all knew he would. His social media feeds are presently overflowing with his constituents expressing their disgust at the cruelty involved in depriving the most disadvantaged kids in society. Even by their usual standards of casual inhumanity, this is not playing well.

His majority is 100

Good to see that Marcus is keeping the pressure on and hasn't been bought off with baubles and gongs. He obviously wasn't told that thats the way things work in this country

Oh, please, let's not redo the Corbyn thing yet again.

A mate shared a post about this last night, berating his Red Wall Tory MP for voting against it. Attracted quite a few "if the parents spent their benefits more wisely, they could afford to eat" and "people on benefits are better off then working families" type responses.

Disappointing how the media focusing on the minority who take advantage of the system has caused people to lose sight of the cast majority who genuinely struggle. People need reminding that most of us are only 2 paychecks away from living that life.

I wouldn’t go anywhere near as far as to call you Tory scum, but you certainly sing their favourite hit of 2019, with gusto.

Not just me that noticed the irony of this then..

Disappointing how the media focusing on the minority who take advantage of the system has caused people to lose sight of the cast majority who genuinely struggle. People need reminding that most of us are only 2 paychecks away from living that life.

Indeed. With a huge recession looming, a lot of people are unfortunately about to find out the yawning chasm between the miserable, foodbank-based reality of life on benefits and the ****less world of big telly's, takeaways and endless days in the pub portrayed by the Daily Heil, et al.

I suspect that, cynically, this might have influenced the governments decision. They know that with unemployment about to hit record highs, largely due to their incompetence (and Brexit, obviously), there's going to be an awful lot more kids will be in need of free school meals

however I didn’t see them talking about how to fix the causes

This is the thing, it's true that free school meals are a sticking plaster to an extent, but what they consider tackling the true causes of poverty is telling poor people to stop being so dreadful while stripping away any hope of them being able to support themselves.

I have zero sympathy for anyone who voted Tory and is now surprised that they turn out to be the same old nasty party, but this time even worse. A moment's thought before voting would have made it quite obvious.

And don't get me started on people like binners...

And yet

https://twitter.com/SavantaComRes/status/1318936490357948416?s=19

not much has changed in 70 years

"So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin," he went on. "They condemned millions of people to semi-starvation. I warn you young men and women, do not listen to what they are saying, do not listen to the seductions of Lord Woolton. They have not changed, or if they have they are slightly worse."

The Government decided the issues in accordance with the best principles, he said: "The weak first; and the strong next." Mr. Churchill preferred a free-for-all, but what was Toryism except organised Spivvery?

But I thought as soon as 'magic grandad' (hilarious 😐) went away everyone was going to start voting labour again?

Bevan merely retorted that men of Celtic fire were needed to bring about great reforms like the new NHS. That was why, he explained, Welshmen were put in charge instead of "the bovine and phlegmatic Anglo-Saxons

Ha! Bovine and phlegmatic sums up England pretty well.

But I thought as soon as ‘magic grandad’ (hilarious 😐) went away everyone was going to start voting labour again?

Indeed

However on those numbers Tories would have a slim majority

just enough that last nights school meal vote would have passed with tory abstainers

I came to join in the "how can the Conservatives be so tone deaf as to vote against helping to feed kids living in poverty over Christmas during a pandemic" ranting.... and yet, with such a clear issue that most of the public and all Labour politicians and supporters can get behind being in the headlines... STILL some people want to make Binners (Labour voter) the point of discussion... sort yourselves out or we have more than 4 more years of this... we have it for the rest of our lives.

And yet

Tory's be Toryin'

The present polling I find absolutely inexplicable. Then I remind myself that I don't live in the Britain that hosted the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony, I live in the nasty, petty, intolerant Britain that voted to Leave the EU and doesn't like brown people.

I suspect that the abhorrent views of Brendan Clarke-Smith articulated above, that everyone on benefits is a ****less layabout, are actually quite widespread, given that's been the relentless narrative that's been pushed for decades. And the demonised 'underclass' are largely unseen by the middle classes in our segregated society.

The whole Marcus Rasford thing stands out so much because he's speaking up for a section of society whose voices are never normally heard

Oh good. Another thread diverted onto me being told the error of my ways by our resident Corbynites

My last word on it - if you don't want to talk about Corbyn (and goodness knows this isn't the thread for it), don't bring him up.

But I thought as soon as ‘magic grandad’ (hilarious 😐) went away everyone was going to start voting labour again?

It was widely acknowledged that a change of Labour leadership, policy and direction would not bring about immediate results.
As for electors starting to vote Labour again, they haven't had any opportunities yet - first one is May 2021 in the re-scheduled local elections covering local councils, unitary authorities and PCCs.
After that it will be the GE in 2025 - unless the FTP legislation is amended.

My last word on it – if you don’t want to talk about Corbyn (and goodness knows this isn’t the thread for it), don’t bring him up.

I didn't.

Have a read up there. It was @munrobiker who's turn it was amongst our resident socialist revolutionaries to start the usual predictable 'if only Binners hadn't prevented Jeremy from being elected' drivel

Now, for the love of Jeremy God, can we please just get off the incredibly tedious subject of me, how wrong I am about absolutely everything and how everything is definitely all my fault

For everyones benefit

So... Marcus Rashford...?

It was widely acknowledged that a change of Labour leadership, policy and direction would not bring about immediate results.

Those poll numbers, during a time when the Tories are doing their utmost to come across as a charicature of a Victorian workhouse master with added corruption and ineptitude, are dreadful. Starmer is a wet blanket.

But yeah ok we don't need another thread about him and how awful binners is. Hmm actually maybe we do need a dedicated slagging off binners thread? 🙂

If you haven't read Marcus Rashford's statement in full, it's worth doing so. Its very impressive, His tone is always measured, diplomatic and non-confrontational. He's now subtly extending this so it's also an appeal to stop stigmatising the poor.

"This is not politics, this is humanity"

https://twitter.com/MarcusRashford/status/1318980281999761408?s=20

He does speak very well and he's been very careful not to make it a party political issue, although the Tories have tried to make out that he has. Marcus for PM! He would genuinely do a much better job.

Very brief read of the comments is mega depressing though.

Those poll numbers, during a time when the Tories are doing their utmost to come across as a charicature of a Victorian workhouse master with added corruption and ineptitude, are dreadful

Agreed. We seem to be back to where we were in 2017 - not the bounce many of us were hoping for.

2017 was a high for Labour though. I was one of many voters who switched to Labour that year. It's more recent years where things went South in terms of voting intention (and actual voting). Anyway, there was definitely a 2020 bounce climb with the new leader.

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