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Alright chaps,
So... I went for an interview with a company at the same time as my colleague, he lied about his salary and I didn't.
I was quizzed in depth as I was asking for a decent amount more than I'm currently on - he didn't. He got an offer and I didn't.
Should I have lied in the interview to make it easier on myself? or is that very dodgy indeed?
I really don't like lying about anything, so would find that very hard to do.
Thanks
Butty
maybe there's more to it than just the salary issue?
maybe there's more to it than just the salary issue?
+1
Unless you are actually the same person, with the same CV, job history and experiences I really can't imagine it's the salary that swung it!
You don't employ someone on the basis of what they are currently being paid. Hate to say it but he was probably the better candidate.
If they thought they could get the same skills for less money by haggling you down they would.
only other possibility is they thought he was worth more to your shared current employer and thus woudl be to them.
create a fake hotmail account and shop him?
I worked for a company in the UK and an Aussie guy joined. It turned out he lied massively in his interview about his salary back home. The company checked it out as standard practice and when it surfaced they sacked him on the spot. So be warned some companies will check and it might come back to bite you. Probably only likely in multinational. Using total package inc benefits,pension, etc is fair game though IMO.
If the HR person was crap then you just stood out more because of the large pay differential. If they hire the other guy based on the differential being small (reasoning he must therefore be good enough and also took his word for it) then its the HR that should be looking for a job.
if you are PAYE then future employee can get your current salary when you hand over your P45 (assuming only 1 job in last tax year etc etc)and you don't want sticking on an emergency code (which is a way out)
now i know some HR person will be along to say its unethical but its is interesting to check - a useful addition to predicting future behaviour with some employees
Hold on, if you were honest and he was lying was he claiming to be the cheaper person to employ?
I don't think you did anything wrong by telling the truth though.
It's not great form at all to lie about anything like this within interviews. You generally need to provide specific salary info (PD) forms to HR after employment and it doesn't take much for an employer to find out the lies. As an employer (I've been part of many recruitment processes this year) if we found one lie then we'd be very wary of everything else about the applicant.
Just tell them your previous salary and say that you think that you were seriously underpaid!
Apparently many organisations now employ a 3rd party to check CV details (including salary) after an offer is made, if you lie it 'could' result in the job offer being recinded after you've started the job (i.e. you get fired).
I'm told this is common in my industry (Investment Banking IT), but I've never heard of it happening to any friends or colleagues.
In the interview for my current job, I said "I expect a salary in line with the current market", I was honest in that I told them that I was currently paid less than the market rate, hence the decision to move.
If they want you, they'll pay what you and the job is worth...if you ask for 1000's more than the market rate you're unlikely to get the job. If you're unreasonable in your compensation expectations, what does that say about your personality and the way you'll approach your job?
Firms asking about salaries is poor if you ask me - they should offer the market rate, or what they are advertising, for the job based on your skills and fitness for the job - end of.
Otherwise you can never work anywhere for less than market rate as it will screw up the next job you go for.
My first job was with the BBC and it took a fair while to recover from the lower salary.
If you're unreasonable in your compensation expectations, what does that say about your personality and the way you'll approach your job?
it says that you are ambitious, don't give a damn aboutn anyone else, and would fit into the investment banking industry like a glove.
And remember to not stay in a job more than four years, as this is viewed suspiciously as well.
"The company checked it out as standard practice and when it surfaced they sacked him on the spot. So be warned some companies will check and it might come back to bite you. Probably only likely in multinational."
I managed hundreds of these bloody things in many countries in a past life. It was very rare that former employers would release salary information to us. It's difficult enough getting references or anything more than confirmation of dates, let alone actual numbers. Perhaps things have changed in the last few years but the more things head toward outsourced HR databases, I'd be surprised.
