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Our local camp has just received a grant for £1million to be re-developed. No problem with that, but then you discover that this is no longer a transit site and the development is for the benefit of one family then surely 'buy them a large house' sounds like a better use of tax payers and Euro funding?
Or is it me?
Oh FFS, just when things were quiet...
Did you have to???
Still time to edit it to "[i]Gypsy[/i]"
darcy
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[Daily Mail] No wonder my council tax bill is so high [/Daily Mail]
Now then, where's the bloke who posted that picture of a well known German translation for "work makes you free"...
[guardian]But these people need to be accommodated. It's money well spent[/guardian]
Any chance of some actual proper information on this, or shall be get the pitchforks and flaming torches out now?
[The Sunday Sport]Man get's married to a goat, get's own council house[/The Sunday Sport]
Any chance of some actual proper information on this
Where's the fun it that? Burn 'em, burn 'em all.
[thetimes] that'll be a pound please[/thetimes]
[The Sunday Sport]Man get's married to a goat, get's own council house[/The Sunday Sport]
LOL! 😆
'Jade Goody Found On Mars'
[dons flame suit]Why the chuff do these characters want permanent sites?
I thought they lived to meander around relieving people of their hard earned goods, badly tarmaccing drives and butchering trees??[takes flame suit off]
I have no time for gypsies at all.
I think you took the suit off a mite too early...
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There are witches as well??? BURN THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darcy - tell that to our local paper then, Gypsy still seems pc
[url= http://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/86684/grant-of-nearly-1m-for-welshpool-gipsy-site.aspx ]http://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/86684/grant-of-nearly-1m-for-welshpool-gipsy-site.aspx[/url]
Are gypsies made of wood? Or something else that floats?
There are witches as well???
He lives in mid Wales....
Are gypsies made of wood? Or something else that floats?
Ducks also float in water.
Sounds quackers to me...
[The Sunday Sport]Man get's married to a goat, get's own council house[/The Sunday Sport]
Bravo, even down to the random apostrophes 😉
Here we go....
Tankslapper - i only live a few miles away to - scandelous i thought, total waste of money , in fact it wasn't to long ago the police raided the site and made quite a few arrests and recovered a good quantity of stolen goods to.
ton
I posted it as this is £1million for one family - I know the site well, have had quite a few stones thrown from it as I cycle past over the years, but I raise no objection to the funding, or who its aimed at. The point you have all missed is how many of you actually live in or have been given a £1million for a property development? Of course the site should be developed, its a hole, but surely decent houses would be a better / cheaper option. Racist analogies are not what the thread was about in any way, what its about is is it reasonable to spend £1million on one family no matter who they are regardless of religion, class, creed or whatever. The fact that many here have chosen to view it as some form of racism says more about prejudices exhibited on this forum by others rather than myself.
Perhaps instead of being PC fascists some should actually try and use reasoned debate.
a house cost c£60k, ok so access roads water etc would need to be supplied, but i assume the land has been provided so no cost, still along way short of £1million. So yes does seem a huge waste. If we are meant to be saving money, why give excessive sums to non productive elements of society. Not racist, by same thought is it right to give millions to pensioners when more cost effective approaches exist?
Do we have any real information on this?
Do we have any real information on this?
To be fair TJ - the lack of real or creditable information has never stopped you in the past
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Do we have any real information on this?
Dunno - if it bothers you, find out, but this was posted up there...
tankslapper - Memberdarcy - tell that to our local paper then, Gypsy still seems pc
http://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/86684/grant-of-nearly-1m-for-welshpool-gipsy-site.aspx
What TJ? Are you saying our local rag (posted above about an 1 hour back, feel free to read!) is not into 'real' information........
He must be taking a long time to read it, I realise it's full of long words and all but I'm pretty sure its available in BIG PRINT or even Braille....
Do I give a shit what's happening to them thieving ****ers in tankslapper land? Nah...as long as it's not in my back yard.
Shit like this wouldn't happen in NI tanky.
Where's the bit in that article suggesting it's only for one family?
So the OP can't use his own eyes now then?
druidh - MemberWhere's the bit in that article suggesting it's only for one family?
Precisely.
Slapper's entire argument is based on the fact that it's just for one family.
And yet the article on which he wants everyone to base their opinions on, makes no reference at all to this.
Sounds like a load of bollox to me.
Sounds like a load of bollox to me.
Bit like most of what's on here then...
Indeed zokes............ a thread full of bollox.
Not entirely a rare sight on here.
And why I often find STW so hugely entertaining 8)
The money will go on improving the site – situated one mile outside of Welshpool, near to the Severn Farm Industrial Estate – and providing new services for residents.Safe footpaths, street lighting, fire prevention systems and recreational facilities for children are just some of the services which will be improved as part of the funding.
Sounds reasonable to me. British citizens getting stuff they need.
Director Kate Bennett said: “Parents in gipsy and traveller communities are 20 times more likely to experience the death of a child than the general population.
“We all want our children to be healthy and educated.”
Sounds like there's a real need for such investment, then.
a house cost c£60k, ok so access roads water etc would need to be supplied, but i assume the land has been provided so no cost, still along way short of £1million. So yes does seem a huge waste. If we are meant to be saving money, why give excessive sums to non productive elements of society.
Maybe to help them become more productive elements of society? Just a thought.
As for the money; it will cost loads to employ contractors to do the work, so I'd imagine that would count for a large chunk of the money. Of course, because the contract firms are private, they'll be charging a fair whack, most likely. And it's providing jobs.
The paper hard copy in front of me clearly states 'when the work is completed the site will be used by just one family'
Ah yes tank but, a gypsy family is considerabluy larger than what most of us would think of as a traditional family.
Clearly at the bottom of the web article it states:
* More, including an interview with some of the Withybeds residents, in this week's County Times
Deadly - yes I'll give you that
The paper hard copy in front of me clearly states.......
Well it's kind've a shame that no one else can see it then............isn't it ?
Certainly one million bucks for just one family seems a lot - you would have thought the article you linked, wouldn't have forgotten to mention it.
💡 Maybe your 'hard copy' was incorrect and they later corrected it ?
County Times - big in Mid Wales ernie.......
The letter pages and the deaths column are a real rivetting read!
[guardian]But these people need to be accommodated. It's money well spent[/guardian]
Until you ask them for council tax or what the menfolk do during the day with all those vans and builders flat beds when they claim they arent working (tax or benefits)..
Then they fancy travelling again.
The letter pages and the deaths column are a real rivetting read!
I'm prepared to take your word on that one.
Hora, switch your irony detector back on there will ya. I was only teasing the slapper dude.
hora, you must have an 'encounter' story on this one.........even a horse.... 😆
Oh and by the way, welcome to the thread hora, it's been missing you.
(Steps back from the PC)
🙂
Re the building houses instead of "improving" the site thing.
Is it becuase if they built them houses they would become permanent residents instead of transient?
To be fair TJ - the lack of real or creditable information has never stopped you in the past
It'd be more accurate to say TJ's never been shy about pointing out "the lack of real or creditable information" in the inflammatory nonsense regularly posted on STW.
Until you ask them for council tax or [b]what the menfolk do during the day[/b] with all those vans and builders flat beds when they claim they arent working (tax or benefits).
You're just brim-full of stereotypes, aren't you, Hora? Are you suggesting [b]women[/b] can't lay a thin layer of tarmac on a drive?
Well I was told...
I'm sure Travelling folk/Gypsies think highly of you, too!
innapropriate s**** @ esselgruntfuttock 🙂
I know the site, its very small. Especially for that kind of grant.
From what i understand there is a lot of trouble there, possibly need to keep the family "seperate" from the rest of their bretheren?!
Sure there's better places to spend a million in Welshpool than there!
Elmo, shhhhhhhhh!
The STW intelligensia will not like something that just may be an actual FACT...............
Personally I think spending a million on a site that sits on a flood plain, on a family the whole area is scared of, who throw stones and hit cyclists as they pass, who even the local police will not take action against, I think is money well spent.
who even the local police will not take action against
I see ......... so presumably the authorities are giving them all this money because they are too scared not to ?
You should've said so from the beginning Slapper. And yes, it sounds pretty grim 😐
Although if what Elmo says is true and the site is "very small", everyone should be very relieved that they are not demanding a substantially larger site.
Do you think they might ? .................ask for a bigger site.
I bet they get it.
intelligensia
You'll be using "liberal" as a term of abuse next...
& Pinko and commie no doubt 😉
Leave the TGB's alone
TGB's when they partake in society as all are expected then give them the benefits.
Time to get tough on lay about non conformist scrounging bastards. 😯
Well the last time i was there the police were watching the council as they removed some caravans and put massive rocks on the pitches.
Think there was two or three statics left.
Last year police from Shrewsbury and Newtown had to help out at a "fracas" that took place.
A million is a lot........for anything!
Blimey! Now there's even a facebook page now dedicated to the subject
'No to the £1m revamp of the Withybeds!!!'
Mmmmm! This could get messy.......
Started by your good self tanky?Blimey! Now there's even a facebook page now dedicated to the subject'No to the £1m revamp of the Withybeds!!!'
Mmmmm! This could get messy.......
Not my style deadly, some geezer called Gary Pierce is the sites originator. 544 members since last week! Some of the comments are priceless....
The irony of this " there on bout closing local schools cos they cant afford to run em" Clearly they were doing a great job 😆
Started by your good self tanky?
😕 Tanky ? As a staunch and committed anti-Trotskyite proletarian Leninist, I most strongly resent Slapper being awarded the accolade of "Tankie" (get the spelling right btw) And not least because of his blatant bourgeois tendencies, and his voluntary service in reactionary royalist forces.
......just thought I'd mention it.