Imagine if she’s gone to see Charlie boy in order to press the (political) nuclear button…
And comes out to say ‘I’ve just been to see the King to call a new General Election’.
She knows she’s **** and her souless shameless uncaring party too. Take some of her plotters out in the explosion.
Well it would keep her in post until the new year I suppose as no-one is dumb enough to remove her once a GE has been announced and fight that without a leader. Its a close call as to whether Liz is better or worse than nothing but eventually I guess they'll decide its largely academic.
I'm not sure she can do it without the consent of Parliament though.
Aren't we all glad that we went with a strong and stable Government via Cameron rather than the chaos of Ed Miliband?!
Penny Mordaunt having to defend the PM "being unavoidably detained elsewhere"
A fridge presumably...
Penny Mordant sticking the knife in telling the Commons that Liz isn’t “hiding under a desk”. I think when the person that’s been chosen to go out instead of you makes it plain to everyone what she thinks of her own PM, we can call it a day
Has anyone accidentally called Hunt 'prime minister' yet?
I suppose the main takeaway from the shortest serving prime minister's tenure is that anyone who said "no matter how bad you think the current one is, the next one will be worse" was right.
defend the PM “being unavoidably detained elsewhere”
Mordaunt claims that it is for "a very good reason".
I am assuming that it is because she is being briefed by Jeremy Hunt concerning what her policies are, what she believes in, and what she should be saying.
Kyiv visit in 3,2,1...
What are the options for why Truss has been detained elsewhere:
- She is rocking quietly in the corner, bottle of whisky half drunk in hand, crying about the bullies and not in a fit state to stand up, let alone make any sense.
- She "has Covid".
- She is calling a GE with the Fresh King.
- Something massive has kicked off in Moscow or southern Ukraine.
- <------ Your Suggestion Here ------->
Browsing AO.com for a fridge to hide in.
Oh, she's turned up!
Locked herself in a bathroom with a bottle of whisky and a revolver
She does not look well.
The Trussbot-5000 was seen leaving the back of 10 Downing Street about 15:50.
Running away.
Edit: Ooooh! Apparently not!
– She is calling a GE with the Fresh King.
He's in Aberdeen so probably not that!
Nice of him to get as far away from the shitshow as possible. 😅
Trussbot 3000 has been successfully booted and entered the House of Commons chamber. Facial expression: Blank, fixed.
She looks like she's been drugged and bundled into the chamber by some bad men
looking rather smug
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"unavoidably detained"
What's more important than turning up to the HoC?
Especially as not being there will now be just as newsworthy as the non answers and "hiding under a desk" soundbite.
She looks utterly, utterly, broken. I think Therese Coffey has handed her some of her special prescription meds.
Is that Morse Code blinking?
She's communicating with her bird/Pigeon masters...
I'd love to be wrong, but I think people expecting an early general election if Truss goes are in cloud cuckoo land. There is no requirement for the Tories to call one, just because you think it's "anti democratic". After all, labour didn't when Gordon Brown was anointed. They won't because they know they'll lose badly...if they hang on, with a more "moderate" or sensible leader, who knows what will change in two years...the economic outlook might dramatically improve, or we have nuclear war in Ukraine etc etc
I think it’s plain for all to see that there isn’t “a” conservative party any longer. There’s an English Nationalist party, there’s still a rump of Johnson supporters and there’s a group forming around Sunak. I think about the only thing they agree on is that they all know that the gig is up, and most – I think, are going to be persuaded by the “It’s going to be shit for the next 5 years, let’s bow out now, and let Labour take the flak” argument. Otherwise they’re all going to be kicked out and unemployable when they loose their seats, and that worries more of them than sitting on the opposition benches for a bit.
On two point though:
1) All three factions are probably convinced they could turn it around.
2) If they lose, they're out of their jobs regardless, only the safest seats (might) survive.
For the rest it's back to their six figure 2nd jobs or doorknocking in the constituencies.
This is brutal, Rachel Reeves laying into her and she is utterly impassive. Present but really not present.
Has Hunt just announced that economic policy is now in the hands of the markets with his new "advisory" board?
I’d love to be wrong, but I think people expecting an early general election if Truss goes are in cloud cuckoo land.
100% agree, it's been repeated endlessly since the start of COVID that there was going to be an early GE
It's even more bonkers to think the Tories will call on know , with their polling so dire, than it was then
As for Truss, I think she may be genuinely unwell
government to establish a new advisory board....
someone had better tell them Barry Chuckle died four years ago.
After all, labour didn’t when Gordon Brown was anointed.
This has been done to death before but in case not
1/ Brown was a new PM but carrying on existing policies and activities, not a fresh start every 6 weeks
2/ Everyone knew that Blair to Brown would happen mid term.
No-one voted for this, there is no mandate for this cabinet and these policies.
I think I'm now as close to feeling sorry for her as I ever could. Much closer than I thought possible. Still quite far obviously. But why would anyone put themselves through this? Does she not know she can just stop?
I mean, literally what she could do right now this second is just stand up, walk out, resign, and say "being PM is taking a toll on my mental health and so I'm stepping down". Boom, done. Gets some sympathy. Honourable way out. Completely convincing. Even makes it harder for people to tell the truth about how terrible she is. Can be spun as brave. Can even be spun to make everyone who's rightly condemned her to look mean. Is there a better end game for her? Don't think so. Is there a better time than right now? Yes but it's in the past. And for the party it's just one bad road out of many, they have no good options really and they're not plotting a path at all anyway.
No-one voted for this, there is no mandate for this cabinet and these policies.
So what?
Mordant keeps on looking across the bench at Truss, she's clearly concerned about her current state. Something major behind the scenes is most certainly up.
And...she's left again...
Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner were looking at her with a degree of concern, too. She just needs to get herself out of there, there's no point delaying it by a matter of days.
economic policy is now in the hands of the markets with his new “advisory” board?
To be fair Jeremy Hunt has just preformed a massive U-turn, less than 4 months ago he was passionately declaring that corporation tax should be slashed to 15%.
This afternoon he has just announced that instead of slashing corporation tax he will actually be increasing it to 25% from next April.
He presumably feels that he needs all the advice that he can get to reduce the need for further humiliating U-turns.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/07/09/sajid-javid-jeremy-hunt-call-massive-tax-cuts/
Sajid Javid and Jeremy Hunt have put tax cuts at the heart of the battle for Downing Street, as both MPs declared their candidacies in The Telegraph with pledges to slash corporation tax.
In separate interviews with this newspaper, the Tory leadership contenders both said they would cancel Rishi Sunak's planned rise in corporation tax and instead reduce the 25 per cent rate to 15 per cent.
So what?
So they should call a GE to establish if they do have a mandate for these policies.
You said they don't need to because Blair / Brown didn't. I pointed out why the Blair/Brown transition is massively different to what we are seeing now. Two reasons, in fact.
I agree that technically they don't need to but staying on and trying to dodge the issue has no credibility at all. Even less than they have now if that's possible.
So they should call a GE to establish if they do have a mandate for these policies.
Why? There's no law that says a government can't change policies mid term. It might make it slightly more difficult to get it thru the legislative process (there's a convention that the Lord's can push back more on things that weren't in the manifesto)....but change in policy happens all the time.
The Tories (or any government) won't give a flying fig about whether they have a mandate....they just want to stay in power. It's politics, not kindergarten.
Believe you're correct that Parliament would need to agree a GE.
But imagine coming out and telling the world that's what is needed and then the Tories in Parliament voting against their PM to save their own skins for 2 years.
Why? There’s no law that says ......
There is no law which says that Liz Truss will have to resign, but it is all but certain that she will be forced to.
Politicians don't only do what they are legally obliged to do.
Liz Truss has no authority and no credibility, do you honestly believe that she will carry on because she has a legal right to do so?
If Truss was in a bad place earlier
She's going to be in a world of poop after seeing this
https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1582038729694191616?t=y_Jh6YnyhXzWq5zMJ087yg&s=19
I'm pretty sure they're just figuring out how her departure is going to be announced
What happens next, joint Morduant/ Hunt leadership bid
Membership get a token offer to vote for one as leader, loser get to be chancellor?
Do you only read the top half of my posts and then fire off a response?
They might not care if they technically have a mandate but they need credibility and authority for their leadership and policies, otherwise other factors (their media paymasters, the markets, etc.) will **** them over as they have in the past 3 weeks. At all of our expense.
Liz Truss has no authority and no credibility, do you honestly believe that she will carry on because she has a legal right to do so?
But I'm not talking about Truss resigning. I'm talking about whether there'll be an early GE.
dangeourbrain
I hope someone with better photoshop skills than me will chop bozza onto Jack Nicholson poking his head through the door in the shining
In Jamie's continued absence, I guess I'll have to do...
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that's pretty terrifying
There won't be a leadership vote for party members. If two candidates come forward, one will stand down before it goes to a vote. Neither of the last two PM removals followed the 1922 rules and this one will not either.
Do you only read the top half of my posts and then fire off a response?
No, I disagree with the bottom half just as much as the top.
No. This time they'll sort the inhabitants of No10 and No11 in the back room with closed doors. Agree a no-contest with some being bought off with senior cabinet jobs, or peerages to have a very well paid job for life (unlike real people who all have their jobs at risk at present).
