Truss is just grifting.
I dont know.
Imagine dedicating yourself to one goal for your entire life. Namely to become prime minister and lead the country to a new golden age.
You achieve that goal putting you above all your fellow dreamers.
Then imagine the country goes WTF and the only reason your premiership lasted more than a month is the mourning period for the queen when you werent allowed to bugger things up.
Thats got to be a serious hit to your mental stability and you either have a choice of accepting your ideas are rather flawed or just doubling down and blaming, well, anything.
I find it hard to tell if Liz truss content is real or parody.
Parody was humanly euthanised and quietly buried some time ago, because it just couldn’t match what reality was dishing up.
just doubling down and blaming, well, anything.
If you read the memoires of any PM the thing that they all say is that when you get to PM, the levers of power are pretty woolly. When Truss says that "the state" put a brake on her radical ideas, she's probably right, it probably did.
The markets did for truss not the state
If you read the memoires of any PM the thing that they all say is that when you get to PM, the levers of power are pretty woolly. When Truss says that "the state" put a brake on her radical ideas, she's probably right, it probably did.
Thats a dangerous way of describing it, and supports the MAGA deep state nonsense.
You can't upend the running of a country on a whim, as Trump and Musk are discovering. A lot of what a civil service does is governed by legislation, even if its secondary legislation. Unpicking it and "fixing" it, for whatever reason, is unnecessarily/luckily quite complicated and will have unexpected consequences, not least a lot of expensive and time consuming legal challenges. A civil service is there to do what the government of the day wants, within the legal framework. Which makes it easy to blame if you don't give a shit about legal protections and processes.
But it was the markets who busted Truss and Kwartengs crazy plans, not the state. She wasn't actually PM long enough for the civil service to block her plans if it had wanted to.
By "The State" I mean the apparatus of any western democracy that functions to maintain the Status Quo. Included in that are financial interests, the civil service, the judiciary, the media, large corporations etc etc After all, as you say; we have 'the markets' to thank for the fact that Truss' madder than most ideas were euthanised at birth. Sometimes, their interests co-inside with everyone else's.
Talking of evangelical TV preachers... has she appeared on stage with the newly ressurected Russell Brand yet? Surely its only a matter of time?
Maybe he'll baptise her in a river in Idaho, live streamed on X?
Might be difficult to tell whether he’s baptising her, or trying to hold her head under the water… 🤷🏼♂️
The grift just keeps on going....
after attacking the establishment for bringing her down after less than 50 days in power.
Well Liz Truss is definitely right about that, it was the establishment that brought her down, the Tory establishment.
Personally I miss Liz Truss
The grift just keeps on going....
**** me, I saw a post about it on Newsthump and just assumed they were taking the piss again.
She's missed the boat by about 15 years, no doubt it'll be as successful as her political career.
A ‘free speech’ social media platform, you say - I could have some fun trolling the stupid woman on that; it’ll be interesting to see just how free I can be with my speech before getting banned! 😜
Can we predict the only people who’ll be on there?
‘Lozza’ Fox, Katie Hopkins, Tommy Robinson, David Icke, 30p Lee, that anti-vax nutter who used to do ‘Coast’ on BBC2?
I think Farage would even consider it beneath him.
Good luck with that Liz
As an aside, who knew that ‘the home of free speech’ was in Bedford. Every days a school day, eh?
Can we predict the only people who’ll be on there?
I'm wondering what it'll be called. I quite like TrussPilot as an option. LettuceSpeak maybe? PorkTalk. So many possibilities!
I think we all know this surrounds their want to be publicly racist, and blame brown people for all the ills of the country.
It’s tough this. Join to wind them up, but at the same time perpetuate the grift, or let it die a cold, empty death… probably the latter.
Personally I miss Liz Truss
If you practice lots your aim will improve.
I think we all know this surrounds their want to be publicly racist, and blame brown people for all the ills of the country.
You can do that already on X and many other platforms. As long as you don't get close to hate speech you can be as racist as you like. In one way it would be good to read what these people really want to say and get a scale of just how many ****s are in a given country. Might not like the answer but it would be good to know what you are up against.
Why would anyone spend 15mins listening to that idiot??
No need to wonder, my friend! Now that Liz Truss TV is beaming truth bombs direct to the cortices of Lettuceheads (that's what us Truss fans call ourselves - see what a great sense of humour we have?!?!) through the free speech internet, there's more opportunity than ever to fight back against the deep state!
Personally I miss Liz Truss
If you practice lots your aim will improve.
A 1 metre square print of her smug face pinned to one of the target bosses at my archery club would be a satisfying thing to shoot at - I think I can get fairly tight groups between the eyes at 40 yards… 🏹
Is Liz Truss now less a person and more an abstract performance art piece?
Fair play to her. Her total lack of self-awareness and desperate appeal to the Trump MAGA lot is absolutely hilarious. Poor old Lizzie. Even Russel Brand has managed to make it big with those morons. That must sting
MAGA morons seem to bring some charisma or x-factor, dog killers, pillow shaggers, fox newsists, outraged pink faced gammons, cross-wielding brimstone mofos, but Truss is truly devoid of anything. The ultimate empty shell, how tha **** did she get anywhere near any high office position nevermind the top job.
Apologies for commenting as it keeps her relevant but I won’t watch the ghoul show YouTube channel in case it’s misinterpreted as validation.
The ultimate empty shell, how tha **** did she get anywhere near any high office position nevermind the top job.
She’s a living, vacant, grinning testimony to how broken our political system now is.
How a ‘career politician’ who’s as thick as mince can make it to be PM, when her only qualification for doing so is her ability to play Westminster parlor games.
It’s what happens when a few thousand racist pensioners from Eastbourne get to decide who gets the top job. Appeal to that tiny percentage of the electorate and you’re in, free to wreak havoc on the economy on behalf of your Tufton Street paymasters
She’s a living, vacant, grinning testimony to how broken our political system now is.
It's okay though as Starmer is now in and will be fixing it as a matter of urgency. He will be fixing it won't he?
Not sure Starmer can change how the Tory party choose their leader, and who their members are. I suppose he could introduce a change that means any new PM needs to return to the country rather than just be approved by their own party… but then he’d be accused of protecting his own position.
It’s been interesting how little attention changes to electing mayors (and police commissioners) has had, but any changes to how we elect the Westminster parliaments and UK government are likely to meet with charges of fixing the system for Labour and/or its current leadership. It’s not a battle they’re going choose right now, when so much needs doing (and the country are restless for it to be done).
She’s a living, vacant, grinning testimony to how broken our political system now is.
How a ‘career politician’ who’s as thick as mince can make it to be PM, when her only qualification for doing so is her ability to play Westminster parlor games.
What?? I think she is a testimony to the opposite! I fully agree that our political system leaves much to be desired but if you take an iceberg lettuce, wrap it up in kitchen roll, and pop in the fridge, it will stay fresh for longer than the time Liz Truss spent as UK Prime Minister. Liz Truss only lasted 44 days!
So at the end of the day what the Eastbourne pensioners which you referred to wanted became an irrelevance. All of which suggests that in that respect at least the political system worked reasonably well.
Can you imagine the dangers of a political system where executive power is in the hands of one directly elected individual?? And the nigh impossibility of removing them if their gross incompetence became obvious?
And to give an example which I am sure you will appreciate binners......look at the disastrous consequences of the clown who is currently UK Prime Minister. However depressing the state of the situation might be the one glimmer of hope is that he won't be PM until 2029, despite winning a massive 172 parliamentary majority. It is only a question of when not if.
I fully agree that our political system leaves much to be desired but if you take an iceberg lettuce, wrap it up in kitchen roll, and pop in the fridge, it will stay fresh for longer than the time Liz Truss spent as UK Prime Minister. Liz Truss only lasted 44 days!
So at the end of the day what the Eastbourne pensioners which you referred to wanted became an irrelevance. All of which suggests that in that respect at least the political system worked reasonably well.
Yes and no.
It worked to a certain extent to get rid of her but by then the damage was done. A proper political system with some form of check and balance wouldn't have allowed her in the door in the first place.
For the love of God! Is there ANY subject that doesn’t end up with you rattling on about Keir Starmer? 🙄
"rent free"
For the love of God! Is there ANY subject that doesn’t end up with you rattling on about Keir Starmer? 🙄
There are loads of subjects! It's just none of them concern UK politics!
When it comes to UK politics I will bring up the issue of the current Prime Minister over and over again. I did say that I felt sure you would appreciate me doing so, did I get that wrong? 😔
"rent free"
Who would have thought that the person holding the highest political office in the UK should be on anyone's mind on a thread discussing politics ?? 😂
When it comes to UK politics I will bring up the issue of the current Prime Minister over and over again
No shit? This thread is specifically about grifting, tinfoil-helmeted fruitloop Liz Truss though.
My point is that it should never have been left to a few thousand racist pensioners to decide who gets to be PM.
A year before she got the top job I stuck a tenner on Truss becoming the next PM as to me it seemed that in the madness of Brexit Britain it had a horrible inevitability about it.
IIRC I got 11/1 when Rishi was 2/1 and apparently nailed on*.They were always going to make it so. It was so predictable. But it should never ever have happened, because if it was decided at a general election she’d have had absolutely no chance! So it’s a totally ****ed-up political system that delivers a PM who nobody but some senile blue-rinses and retired colonels wanted
*Unfortunately my winnings didn’t compensate for how much worse off we all are because of her economic cockwomblery
So it’s a totally ****ed-up political system that delivers a PM who nobody but some senile blue-rinses and retired colonels wanted
I think it's exactly what her Tufton Street paymasters (and possibly Russia) wanted. Whether or not she was smart enough to know that's the tune she was dancing to is anyone's guess; she doesn't seem smart enough to know which way is up so I can't imagine for a second she actually thought she was "installed".
Somewhere in the back of her brain cell is a conviction that she did it all on talent. Poor deluded thing.
Whether or not she was smart enough to know that's the tune she was dancing to is anyone's guess
They probably convinced her it was all her own idea. I can’t imagine that would have taken long
My point is that it should never have been left to a few thousand racist pensioners to decide who gets to be PM.
Whilst my point is that it was only 45 days before she was forced to announce her resignation. So this story isn't exactly a "testimony to how broken our political system now is" as you claim.
And if you look at the longer-term consequences of a few thousand racist pensioners deciding who gets to be PM (it was actually elected Conservative MPs that decided who was on the ballot paper) then you should be very satisfied.
Labour only had a 5% lead over the Tories the week before Boris Johnson announced his resignation, all that changed overnight as the result of Liz Truss becoming PM and support for the Tories instantly collapsed, it was game over at that point and Risi Sunak stood no chance of saving a mortally wounded Tory Party.
The landslide victory which Sir Keir Starmer enjoyed in July 2024 (see I have mentioned him again! 🤭) with only 34% of the vote could not have happened without Liz Truss firstly shafting the Tory Party big time.
So you need to feel a little more gratitude towards Liz Truss binners, I am sure that your man Sir Keir Starmer does!
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/42934-voting-intention-con-34-lab-39-22-23-june
she doesn't seem smart enough to know which way is up so I can't imagine for a second she actually thought she was "installed".
Truss can't always have been this delulu. Like Diane Abbot, she must have been a smart cookie to get into Oxbridge (because neither of them was in a position to simply drift in, even in the 70s or 80s) but somewhere along the way they have both lost it.
Maybe book smart
But not actually smart
Truss's school in Leeds sends a lot of kids to Oxbridge and her father is an academic. she had opportunities that most kids don't have, or even know exist
She didn't come from a rough estate in Darlington or Portsmouth
Truss's school in Leeds sends a lot of kids to Oxbridge and her father is an academic. she had opportunities that most kids don't have, or even know exist
She didn't come from a rough estate in Darlington or Portsmouth
And from family experience, Cambridge (and I presume Oxford, though that is where most of the Tory loons went) are much keener to offer places to bright kids from "ordinary" backgrounds than not so bright kids who have been groomed by parents, the "right" schools or tutors. Jnr used to help out on open days and had parents bitching that the cost of private education no longer guaranteed a place over some state schooled kid who had earned their place despite a shit school or social disadvantages.
Truss's school in Leeds sends a lot of kids to Oxbridge and her father is an academic. she had opportunities that most kids don't have, or even know exist
She didn't come from a rough estate in Darlington or Portsmouth
1) it's a good thing when a state school sends lots of kids to Oxbridge.
2) obviously her dad being "in the trade" will have helped her education, no doubt. But she still had to compete for a place. She wasn't Prince Charles, who was waved into Cambridge with a B and a C at O-level.
3) Truss's home life was oddly transient and disjointed: Leeds, Communist Warsaw (!), Kidderminster, Paisley, Leeds, British Columbia... She wasn't wildly privileged.
I'm not saying that Truss was some kind of rags to riches story or even that I admire her. Quite the opposite. But I am saying she can't have always been as bonkers and self-delusional as she seems to be now.
You can be intelligent (in whatever form that takes) and still be completely and utterly deranged.
Her intelligence isn’t the issue. It’s the fact that she’s as mad as a box of frogs
So a psychological/mental health issue if she was okay 20 years ago. Shouldn't we be supportive or does that only work when you like the person?
My point is that it should never have been left to a few thousand racist pensioners to decide who gets to be PM.
The current PM was pretty much appointed by establishment power brokers in the civil service, media and the city to supposedly be a 'safe pair of hands' and look where that's got us. We're on the brink of handing power to schoolboy hitler fanboy and a motley crew of reactionary bigots who can't even get their heads around being a local councillor let alone governing a country.
The current PM was pretty much appointed by establishment power brokers in the civil service, media and the city to supposedly be a 'safe pair of hands' and look where that's got us.
No he wasn’t. That’s bobbings.
Most functions of the state are being turned around. The failures are mostly pre-existing or over blown (being pinned on the “current PM” by the power brokers in civil service, the media and the city) and the improvements over looked. When did you last hear about the work done over the last 18 months in the NHS to reduce waiting times? For example.
