Bluesky has a whole thread of Gilbert & Sullivan inspired lyrics on this. It’s brilliantly done!
Very good but
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Post-truth is a phrase that has gone out of vogue. But it describes perfectly the post-2016 era of politics in the US and UK, as well as probably many others.
I have a memory of (The Spectator I think) coining the phrase post-truth to describe Jeremy Hunt's antics against the Junior Doctors, whilst Trump was still just a twinkle in Putin's eye.
Amazing to think he's still out there and almost statesmanlike looking by modern Tory standards!
I see she accused Brown of crashing the economy back in the day, which should sink her suit if none of the other 47 reasons do.
Very good but
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That's the quoted post - it said something about "this has the makings of a Gilbert & Sullivan play about it" (in reference to the legal case stuff).
So Steve Peers quoted it and created the lyrics which you can see. The quoted post is locked from being linked to.
Neither I nor STW are breaking any copyright or anything by linking to Steve's post and whoever wrote what was quoted is protected by the restrictions they put on their own account.
Damage here reputation? FFS.
She wasn't just rubbish at being the PM I once worked with C&W where she was one of the finance directors, she excelled at being crappy there too.
These people! Just because they seemingly have high qualifications, it doesn't mean they are competent at anything, at all. Surely there's a door somewhere that needs to be kept open by her? useless twit...
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I think folks like Gove, Johnson, Truss, Kwarteng don’t really need to additional help of cocaine to make them overconfident in their own abilities, I think they manage that all by themselves. It’s indicative I think of that era in our politics is that it was staffed by politicians who believed their own hype and that by just the force of their personality they could change reality to suit their needs.
That’s always been the case, grammar school, university, (Oxbridge, naturally), job in law/politics, job in government…
It’s always been that way. They never have an actual job that brings them into contact with normal people, or where mistakes have real-world consequences that actually bite them in the ass.
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I’ve just tapped on the Steve Peers Bluesky post above, which has taken me nicely to Bluesky, where later I’ll sit with a nice single malt and laugh hysterically at the various verses. Thanks for sharing! [img] 
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Well, it’s politics. It’s “post-truth” embodied. Facts don’t matter, it’s obviously never going to see a courtroom; what matters is that the message gets out.
Well that's pretty much the point, isn't it. There's no real consequence to it, and there should be. As long as we make it easier and safer to make a false claim than it is to fight it, it's going to get worse. It has to be easier and cheaper to slap it down than it is to do it. At the very least law firms should know that a vexatious threat can bite them back- there's no protection against a Truss saying "I will sue you" but steps could be taken to make sure that no lawyer will touch it.
I have a memory of (The Spectator I think) coining the phrase post-truth to describe Jeremy Hunt’s antics against the Junior Doctors, whilst Trump was still just a twinkle in Putin’s eye.
Amazing to think he’s still out there and almost statesmanlike looking by modern Tory standards!
Quite. But that's how quick things can change when political opportunists realise something as fundamental as truth is not actually sacrosanct.
A few years ago I seem to remember a winner in a libel case being awarded 1p as they were deemed to have no reputation to be damaged
I’m amazed it took this long…
Indeed - but you get the feeling that ol' Liz is a rogue player now, out for herself at all costs.
Will she be threatening Kemi with letters on headed paper for calling it her economic legacy now?
Anyone know how to insert the popcorn gif these days?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/liz-truss-tories-maga-washington-b2685730.html
I think a famous rock singer wrote a song about this, but it doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
An english bird in washington?
Sting was a good export, Truss and Farrage, not so much.
I think we just need Tommy robinson to join them now, to make a hat trick... but I think he's technically banned from entering the USA due to mortgage fraud and illegal entry under a false identity anyway.
I wonder If trump will welcome him into the fold? He ticks all the boxes.
I've just watched this entire clip. I didn't mean to but I couldn't bring myself to stop watching it. I was strangely drawn by some sort of morbid fascination into her weird alternative reality world. I kept thinking "did I actually just hear her say that?"
I knew that she was unhinged but I had no idea she was that unhinged. Surely she previously wasn't and her journey from the Liberal Democrats is proving to be a long one?
Plenty of the stuff she says would be too extreme for Nigel Farage to say and for the first time ever I am starting to see Reform UK as perhaps a more moderate alternative to the Tory Party.
I was impressed by her comment concerning Rory Stewart's wife. I think it is very likely that no one in that audience had the slightest idea who Rory Stewart is, let alone that he is married with a wife. So she didn't even bother to make any serious attempt to tailor her speech to suit her audience.
I mean obviously someone is feeding her all this to say but the thing I really want to know is who is controlling those arms? And are they on strings from above or do you think the are using really thin poles from below.
Dear lord, that speech is absolutely staggering. Like Ernesto, once I started watching it I became fascinated with just how much more unhinged it would get. Very, very, very was the answer to that.
It’s like she’s been locked in her bedroom for 6 months doing nothing but eating pot noodles and watching mad conspiracy theory videos on YouTube
Actually… that’s exactly what she’s been doing, isn’t it?
I see that her malfunctioning robot style of delivery is still as bizarre as it was all those years ago during the famous ‘pork markets’ speech. Strange pauses, waiting for applause that doesn’t come.
This… is… a… disgrace
I saw an article about her earlier today and barely recognized her. She looks like she's been caning the sauce or something.
She probably has. I read an article by one of her former aides a while back that said she is virtually permanently pissed. She starts on the Chardonnay at lunchtime and just keeps going
She’s listing a load of parliamentary acts which predominantly protect people from the state overreaching into their lives, and discriminating against them. Not “overreach of the state” but laws put in place to restrict the state from controlling people on a whim, and to let people live their lives. It’s not enough to want power any more, these people want that power to be unrestricted. We need to collectively make sure they don’t get what they want, not just to protected the minorities they’re currently attacking… Muslims, Trans Women etc… but for all our families, friends and neighbours.
I’m amazed it took this long…
”Nurse,… nurse,… NURSE! Quick, she’s escaped from her restraints again!”
Why would anyone spend 15mins listening to that idiot?
I think it’s a combination of wanting to see what the daft bat is up to now, followed by the inability to look away from a car-crash happening right in front of your eyes, and the realisation that in getting rid of her when we did, we really did escape a bullet there!
There does seem to be a lot of people in that sort of politics who are exhibiting the same effects as Kennedy Jr’s brain-eating worms - we need to know what the transmission vector is, in order to take appropriate action!
Kelvins right,we must never let the state lock us down or force us to wear paper masks again!
I saw an article about her earlier today and barely recognized her. She looks like she's been caning the sauce or something.
And the Charlie would be my guess
I knew that she was unhinged but I had no idea she was that unhinged.
Like how Neil Oliver went from being marginally eccentric TV presenter to full on conspiracy theorist nutcase.
Truss has had the same sort of journey - mildly eccentric, a few "off the wall" ideas, a delusion of grandeur, transformed into a firm belief that she knows something that They don't... And she's just doubled down and down on it, no doubt with some marginally more intelligent puppet masters behind the scenes, playing to her credulity.
I think she's borderline psychopathic; certainly completely delusional. A narcissist at least has an awareness that they're creating a false impression of themselves but delusional people firmly believe their own hype, even in the face of solid evidence against it.
And the Charlie would be my guess
I seem to recall that was quite widely assumed at the time, and quite a few of those close to her
I was impressed by her comment concerning Rory Stewart's wife. I think it is very likely that no one in that audience had the slightest idea who Rory Stewart is, let alone that he is married with a wife. So she didn't even bother to make any serious attempt to tailor her speech to suit her audience.
I've just started reading Rory Stewart's book about his time in the tory party. I'm afraid to ask but what did she say about his wife?
She just mentions "Rory Stewart's wife" when she was celebrating the ending of USAID.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/13/charity-run-rory-stewarts-wife-1m-funding-cut-musk/
Obviously most people in the audience, if not all, will have had no idea who Rory Stewart is.
Why would anyone spend 15mins listening to that idiot?
Exactly what CountZero says, plus CPAC is an important organisation which can't simply be ignored.
Well it can be I suppose but their man is currently the most powerful politician in the world and what he does is likely to effect us all.
Her level of importance at CPAC is akin to the hot dog guy 2km away from the Champions League final venue.
I find it hard to tell if Liz truss content is real or parody.
Charlie and Chardonnay, I'm led to believe.
Truss is just grifting. There are still enough antivax, anti-lockdown conspiracy theory maniacs out there to keep her in clover. Probably until the end of her days.
It's a similar business model to evangelical TV preachers.
Talking of evangelical TV preachers... has she appeared on stage with the newly ressurected Russell Brand yet? Surely its only a matter of time?
Maybe he'll baptise her in a river in Idaho, live streamed on X?
It's only a matter of time until she fulfills her full potential and sets up a special OnlyFans site where she dresses up as Maggie Thatcher and scolds naughty Tory boys for £100 for 10 mins.
The Times (?) photoshoot she did years before she was actually PM was merely a glimpse of the future.
Can we recommend people who need to be sectioned?
Not Liz Truss.
I reckon Liz Truss would be an embarrassment to Nigel Farage if she joined Reform UK. Even he has the common-sense to tone it down a bit. At least in public.
Has anyone heard Nigel Farage talk about "Deep State" ? And how it's after him ? I can't say that I have.
Has anyone heard Nigel Farage talk about "Deep State" ? And how it's after him ? I can't say that I have.
GB News has reported comments made by Nigel Farage on how Elon Musk might take on the task of reforming government in the USA, and on how such ideas might be replicated in this country.
They reported him saying:
This is the sexy bit: Elon comes in and takes a knife to the deep state. Just like when he bought Twitter he sacked 80% of the staff. There are going to be mass lay-offs, whole departments closing and I’m hoping and praying that’s the blueprint for what we then do on our side of the pond. Because that’s what Reform UK believes in – that we’re over-bureaucratised and none of it works. This assault on the bureaucratic state is the thing that’s really exciting.
They’ll all be gone. They’ll all be fired.
Why do we need Whitehall with all these useless, ghastly Marxists? Universities have all become madrassas of Marxism. The whole thing is appalling.
GB News has reported comments made by Nigel Farage on how Elon Musk might take on the task of reforming government in the USA, and on how such ideas might be replicated in this country.
Mildly surprised that Dominic Cummings hasn't popped his head above the parapet, this was always his vision - break it all then rebuild in his own mold.
But just like Boris Johnson was a poundshop Donald Trump, Dominic Cummings was a poundshop Elon Musk.
And Liz Truss I suspect wouldn't have had the faintest clue of what was going on around her no matter what.
It's all a nonsense, of course, as the functions of government have to be run by someone.
What Musk, Farage, and all the other "deep state" believers want to happen is for government to be run by private businesses, preferably ones they have shares in, or a position on the board. In my experience, this leads to either more expense, due to the profit seeking nature of private companies, or worse services as the shareholders cream off the money paid to the companies by the government. Just look at Thames Water!
I work for a government funded body as a software developer. We are nearly always late on projects, but they don't cost more money, as the extra time is most often done via a zero-cost extension. When we have used external contractors they invariably over-promise, under-deliver, are late and, crucially, provide zero support in production as the contact is up. And they always use the most junior staff, despite tendering with the most experienced.
The most efficient way to run a government is with a large public sector. It's just that the vultures can't make money off that.
