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I know of somebody who has almost two years of continual service,how long until they havee to be offered a job.
Context is somebody I work with has been here(school)two years next week.They do a cracking job,and they are the latest in a long line of(previously awful) supply filling a position that we are not allowed a perm member of staff for because of pupil numbers.
are they on a temporary contract or supply?
I think it is more than 3 years.
is it this 11month contract nonsence that aberdeen council are doing the now for teachers ... garbage
I've been a post doc on a role contract. I think I became permanent after 4 years
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is it this 11month contract nonsence that aberdeen council are doing the now for teachers ... garbage
Companies like BT have been doing this for years - keeps the management on their toes, as they have to 're-apply' for their own job!
As for teachers... perhaps it's a way of getting rid of under-performing teachers? Perhaps there's a surplus of freshly qualified teachers ready to teach, and it's a way of providing them with the opportunity?
duckman - no hard and fast rules on it. One for the union
I was fixed term for 2 years, contract renewed every 6 months. The impression I got waas there are no rules in place to force companies into making you permenent.
Thanks TJ et all,I will contact the area rep. Supply contract it has been,she was taken on and never let go.We don't want her to leave and need a another teacher,but if she is classed as supply she slips under the staff/pupil radar.
As for teachers... perhaps it's a way of getting rid of under-performing teachers? Perhaps there's a surplus of freshly qualified teachers ready to teach, and it's a way of providing them with the opportunity?
Xiphon,This was one of the whispers from the Government this year,that everybody was going to be on rolling contracts,so I think you can sub under-performing for top of scale. Out of the recent round of jobs,I know of a couple of folk who are near the top of scale @37400 and really good teachers,(which gets you known in our cluster) and have decided to try for jobs nearer their homes who have not even been interviewed as they are just bringing in ex-probationers at 25000. Meanwhile they are still churning out huge numbers of probationers who have NO chance of perm position.BTW I am all for a faster process of training/removing under-performing staff in education.
yup 6 or 7 geography jobs in the whole of scotland - inc one on orkney and one maternity leave
the missus just finishing her probationary year and has applied for them all - which will be lovely when i work in aberdeen and shes working in kilmarnock , ardrossan or inverness !
Aye but she could be in Websters,lovely wee school (that's tomorrow)And you could move back to Arbroath 😀
she got an interview for websters , shes fighting 2 internals though - one whos a current probhationer there
There is both some legal stuff on this and there will be some in union / employer agreements.
One thing is they cannot use temporary contracts as a way of getting around employment protection after a years service for example - so by now while they don't have a permanent contract infact they might well have accrued all the rights of an employee on permanent contracts
But it is complex and I only know that he provisions exist - not what they are exactly
One of the lads at work (Royal Mail) has just recently been given a full time contract.
Since he started 3 years ago on a 30 hour part time contract he has done a full time round and had to claim the 10+ hours worked as overtime. For the last 10 months he's been chasing the company up for a full time contract via the union and it eventually took the threat of a tribunal before the company gave in to his request.
He suggested to me that he had been told that when employed part time if you never work less than full time (excluding holiday) for longer than 18 months then the company were required to offer a full time contract.