[Closed] 'Kate Moss has been the most glamorous icon since ...'

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Kate Moss?
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I like this type. Easier to manoeuvre.
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Guys - we really do not need pics! Just thought this might provoke an intelligent discussion rather than some .... .... (insert your own words here).

So ... who would you nominate?

Discuss what?

Moss is an icon.

Perhaps she's also an ugly person.

So what?

Is there no justice in this world? You had your muscles and nakedness on Friday so can we have ours? 😉

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If he means as glamorous as Marilyn post sleeping tablet accident, he may have a point. 😀

Who would I nominate? Jodie Kidd. Elegant, funny, down to earth, fast driver.

Kate Moss = Queen of the Chavs

Bryan Ferry's a muppet. And he obviously hasn't met you cinnamon girl 😉

Kate Moss is clearly a fashion icon, but, and despite an apparent disappearance from the catwalk, I'm going to vote Cindy Crawford.

[i]That[/i] poster of her in the stars and stripes bikini is an image burned on to the back of my eyeballs during my teenage years and at 44 she is still stunningly glamorous.

*closes eyes and remembers*

Pete Burns

funny enough I saw this image earlier today & your Pete Burns comment reminded me of it. Don't know why...

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hattie jacques, proper lady curves and she liked a good booze up

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no point having a flat chested stick thin waif with no curves unless you like turning them over and pretending that they're a chap 😉

Kate Moss is ugly, thick and self-destructive. She may appeal to the people in the fashion industry who seem to hate breasts. But she looks like she would snap too easily 😉

Shame she's a ****t though! I have it on good authority she's a nightmare to work with!!! But then i suppose the diva level she's reached allows this!?

I vote for c_g (and for c_g jnr too!!) 😉

A really good friend of mine works in the fashion industry and has met KM many a time. She's meant to be a good laugh, great company, just a regular girl from Sarf Laandan.

her and Naomi Campbell ugly thick and self-destructive: designated as beautiful by the gay men who run the fashion industry. And are by definition not capable of deciding what a good looking woman looks like.

By the way, I suspect Gok Wan is straight, pretending to be gay, so he can grope womens tits without getting slapped 😉

I'd bang her into another dimension.

I think she is beautiful.

Hmmm, different to the opinion i got from someone similar hairy c.

Kate Moss? [i]Kate Moss????[/i]

Are you 'avin' a bubble??

just a regular girl from [b]Sarf[/b] Laandan

See, there's yer problem. That, and she's a skinny coke-head what hangs around with knob-ends. She's hardly any more glamorous than the crack-addict prostitute lives the end of my block.

As for Bryan Ferry being a commentator on style; do me a favour. Boring MOTR bloke in a leather jacket appeals to the middle-aged. I've never known anyone say they were into Bryan Ferry when they were young and trendy. Prince, fair enough. But Bryan Ferry??

I'd rather listen to the Woolwich Ferry. 😐

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I've taken birds on the Woolwich Ferry.

I'm single.

CG - who would you count as a glamour icon from recent years who had the sustained success of Kate Moss? She's not my cup of tea particularly but as a model, I don't think there's anyone who has been so ubiquitous in my lifetime.

glamour icon to me would be Dita von tease

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I imagine that if I was to suddenly bump into Kate Moss, Kate Winslet or Kathy Burke the alleged icon would leave the least impression.
I only like skinny bikes if I can pedal them.

I was always a fan of Beatrice Dalle but I guess she doesn't count.

Going back to the OP. I think it's a pretty open field for 'most glamorous icon' and also for 'femme fatale of our age'. It's such a question of taste and preferences and what media you are exposed to and indeed where and what culture you live in, there's no agreed list to go by.

For myself I certainly would not have picked Kate Moss as a femme fatale. She is glamorous and an icon, but then so is Posh in her own different way, for example, ditto maybe Jemima Khan or Cheryl Crowe or ...or... - if that floats your boat.

What I will say is that Kate Moss (and Posh for what it's worth) are very skilled at manipulating the media. It's not long ago that Kate's career was on the rocks after she was filmed snorting coke, and now she's right back where she was, a somewhat iconic, sometimes glamorous person in the fashion industry. But then, if you are anyone in the fashion industry you have to be somewhat 'iconic' and glamorous at least part of the time - that's what it's about!

I think it would be interesting to meet her and find out what she's really like as a person and perhaps get her views on the question being posed here.

How's that for taking the question seriously Cinnamon? 🙂

Ooh, now we're talking....

I'd go with Kylie as well. 'Ordinary' lass from Wollongorongobongorong or somewhere I dunno it's Australian innit? Transformed into a sex-peanut, had a very successful pop music career, incredible bottom, seems like a lovely lady too.

As for a British style and glamour icon of our modern times, I'd present the case for Myleene Klass. Stunningly beautiful, extremely talented, and highly intelligent too. Very savvy, knows how to use her image and appeal to the max. At the same time as being a mum. Also, seems very lovely.

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See? Sort of bird you could take out for a few jars, then she'd get on the old joanna, bash out a few tunes, turn it into a right old knees up. Moss would be too busy texting.

Looks like she'd enjoy a trip on the Woolwich Ferry, too. She'd appreciate the gesture, unlike some ungrateful cahs.

Why am I not married to Myleene? What went wrong? 😥

I bumped into her once between her early "famous" years and the latter ones. She seemed quite upset that nobody knew who she was beyond being able to say that her face looked familiar. She's also extremely short, but so is Scarlett Johanson and that doesn't stop her being fairly glamorous.

I find Myleene Klass very annoying on the radio.

There was a really funny piece in one of the papers recently where Myleene was (still) trying to break America and was really upset that no-one knew who she was. Poor Myleene. Stuck, being annoying, on Classic FM. Not quite talented enough in the areas she wants to be great at.

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Bryan Ferry seems to have forgotten Jerry Hall.

She is very photogenic and scrubs up very well, like many models, first thing on a Monday morning might not be the best time to see her. She is a first and foremost a photo model and personally I don't care what she does in her private life.
There are some very interesting attitudes on here, I don't know why I'm surprised by the snobbery here, but I am.
Between Monroe and Moss I suppose it's difficult to say, Monroe died young from a drug overdose after a troubled life and Moss hasn't died yet! Most glamorous, probably Moss. I would. 😆

Did you write that article?

I don't care. Not interested in what the Americans have to say; Myleene is tops.

Beatrice Dalle....oooh.....

Wonky teeth, smokes fags, bit hatstand- yes please!

Juliette Binoche too. Bit posh. Nice.

All better than Kate flippin' Moss.

If Kate Moss tried to chat me up, right, I'd say 'look love, I might be pissed, but I've got me standards. See that whey-faced junkie in the corner, he might be interested though'.

She wouldn't get me number. She'd be getting the cab home alone. Crying.

I'd be off down the late-night kebab shop with Myleene...

Monroe was more actress than model

Moss more model than anything else

Neither were shaping fashions, rather they reflected and projected styles conceived by others

Plenty of others are more 'glamourous' IMH.

Madonna isn't my cuppa but has probably been a greater influence that Monroe or Moss

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Totally agree with idave about Madonna...really wanted to be like her in the 80's...can't say I've ever wanted to be like Kate Moss. I prefer to have my eyes towards the front of my face. Mind you, I suppose she has good periphary vision.

Kate moss is only glamorous when someone else dresses her.

I've taken birds on the Woolwich Ferry

Only cos its free, moaned enough about paying for yourself on the clipper so paying for your bird as well would be a real non starter

And definitely Monroe, the updraught from that grate would have blown Ms Moss into the stratosphere

FC - you little bitch.....

Ms Von tease has done some very interesting "work" previously. Not that I'd recommend you googling it, of course. 😯

backhander- she was an ace burlesque performer. Elegant, glamorous and an absolute filth monkey........my dream woman 🙂

Lets face it,compared with Kate Moss, there are more attractive women working the tills in most Lidls. But there is some bizarre idea of "bone structure" that fashionistas love.

I'll believe she is an icon when I see her nailed to the wall of a Russian Orthodox church.

Only cos its free, moaned enough about paying for yourself on the clipper so paying for your bird as well would be a real non starter

Heh! I'm a classy date, me... 😉

Once took a girl to a 'nice quiet pub' one evening. 'Oh, they've got the football on; what surprise...'

Was a successful date, funnily enough. 🙂

[i]'Are you avin that last chilli, love?'[/i]

I've never known anyone say they were into Bryan Ferry when they were young and trendy. Prince, fair enough. But Bryan Ferry??

When I was as young and trendy as I ever was back in the mid 70s Ferry was as cool as cool can be and the albums were great. No question. Even as a hard core metal fan I thought Ferry was cool.

Prince is and always will be a bellend

Kate Moss is a skank. But i don't know who Bryan Ferry is, so whatevs.

The thing is, if Marilyn were alive today I reckon she'd still be an icon...there is something mesmerising about her.
Kate? She may well look good in her clothes, but I wouldn't say she's glamorous.

Gosh, what a response and, my, such differing opinions!

OK, I'll admit I have a problem with the word "glamorous" as there is no way I would apply it to Kate Moss. Actually The Southern Yeti used the word "fashion" icon which I consider is more appropriate.

Marilyn Monroe was beautiful, glamorous and sexy. I can't actually think of anyone that comes close to that now.

Catherine Zeta Jones is glamorous - such elegance and poise at those big showbiz events.

Let's talk about Bryan Ferry ... I have seen him a few times including back in his Roxy Music days. In fact at the gig Jerry Hall was on stage and, my goodness, she was pretty amazing. Bryan Ferry is Mr Cool - he can make a dark suit and white shirt look incredibly sexy. He may now be 60 odd but his gf is in her 20's. 😯

ron jeremy - you really are such a flirt. 😉

Back to the guys and gals.

Totally agree with TJ! 😯

Bryan Ferry was/is totally cool and sex-on-legs!(With a sad taste in icons!) 8)

tazzy, you have seen the lesbo stuff with the shoe haven't you?

Kate Moss is a skank. But i don't know who Bryan Ferry is, so whatevs.

😆

That more or less sums it up perfectly! Nice one Finbar!

TandemJeremy - Member
I thought Ferry was cool.

My case resteth, M'Lud.

Prince is and always will be a bellend

Possibly, but he's made some far better music than Ferry could ever hope to. And he had young girls lusting after him, not just middle-aged women.

He may now be 60 odd but his gf is in her 20's

Nothing to do with his bank balance, of course. Oh no....

The Woolwich Ferry has been going for one hundred and twenty one years. Still gets fit young birds on it.

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Elf - not wanting to pick a fight with you but when I saw Bryan Ferry in the 70's, I was a fit young bird. And I lusted after him. Oh yes, I was a teenager alright. 😉

Edit: And I still lusted after him a couple of years ago when I saw him. What's age got to do with it???

and he had young girls lusting after him, not just middle-aged women.

😯

You cheeky ****ing ****er!!!

8)

ron jeremy - you really are such a flirt.

No, I'm just honest 😆

[i]burlesque performer. [/i] code for when fat birds take their kit off.

Munro couldn't act, couldn't sing, and that face was plastic surgery, and she was fat.

We all have a different take on beauty

Do you like 'em a bit 'boyish' then, nickc? 😉

nick - I didn't realise she'd had plastic surgery. OK, she couldn't sing but she had the 'whole package' as it were.

Yes, good job we're all different!

I don't think Moss is good looking but she is an icon. I'd sooner Kylie. Surprised no one has mentioned, Jolie? Agree madonna has been biggest influence and spawned many copycats.

yep, you are right nickc, she's a ****in whale with more chins than the hong kong telephone directory.

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I'm not one for 'pre raphaelite' curves, no.

Dita ain't chubby, Tazzy I know, but IME, burlesque tends to be done by girls who love their chips.

I have to say that having actually met the lovely Miss D VonTeese (both of us were working at Erotica in 2008) and sharing a glass of champagne afterwards with her and her 'people' she is stunning in real life, without loads of make up, and she is a proper genuine person as well and a good laugh, oh and most defineatley not a biffa!!

Patsy Kensit looked very glamorous (had to concentrate on the spelling there!) last night and this evening on Stictly come dancing.

However I don't think any of today's woman come close to Marilyn or Liz Taylor in their heydays.

Bryan Ferry was/is totally cool and sex-on-legs!(With a sad taste in icons!)

Elfinsafety - Member

Prince is and always will be a bellend

Possibly, but he's made some far better music than Ferry could ever hope to. And he had young girls lusting after him, not just middle-aged women.

Piffle
Try some early roxy - from the 70s. Top tunes - You got to put it in context.
streetlife - 1976

1972 FFS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_KFebLWpY0

The thing is, if Marilyn were alive today I reckon she'd still be an icon...there is something mesmerising about her

Spot on FoxyChick!

Oh and as Bunnyhop mentions - Liz. Elizabeth Taylor for those who are too young! An icon surely?

As a huge music fan of both Prince and Roxy music (bryan Ferry). There is no contest, Ferry wins hands down.

Audrey Hepburn

she's a skinny coke-head what hangs around with knob-ends

I think that pretty much sums up my opinion of Kate Moss.

Not ubiqutious but a really attractive woman IMHO.

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I don't really get the fashion worlds version of beauty.

Kate Moss will never be an icon, and she is definitely not glamorous. I'll wager that 99% of the pictures you will see of her will have her looking like a skank or a junkie. She has reached the level now of being totally recognised so she can earn a crust doing not very much, indulging her passion of ****ing anyone in a band or in film.

Think Bryan Ferry is was off the mark with that one. Can't think who would qualify though.

Jools is that Audrey Tautou?

Audrey Tatou???

I would coat her in butter and d..[EDITED AS UNSUITABLE FOR A FAMILY FORUM]

Ooohhh.....

(Needs a little lie down)

[i]Audrey Hepburn [/i]

Possibly the most beautiful woman that has ever existed. (except for my wife obviously). Now Audrey had proper class and glamour. Yes please!

No-one has mentioned Bridget Bardot
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poor old Bryan Ferry eh? I bet he likes cottage cheese as well.

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