Jeremy Corbyn

Of course the Tory party and "press" ignire him, the longer he's in charge the better. That was the point we where all making back in the original post Milliband leadership contest and why I was close to paying £3 to vote for him.

Point of order: David Milliband would have lost the same way as his bro.

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Hazel Blears is looking well, isn't she?

Possibly yes, the economic credibility had been shot to bits by Brown post financial crises but I wonder whether David might have fended off the SNP threat rather better.

edit: cfh 🙂

That's life in Salford for you Flashy....

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@binners yes who knows? Yet some are so sure he would've won. I think he had a few too many skeletons in the closet/ banana skins.

.. but he was more popular with voters and his party than Mr Ed. So, if anyone had a chance of rescuing the party it was him.

Do you think that David would have changed the voting rules, so that the inmates got to decide who should run the asylum ?

After this wonderful video, Jezz We Can will need to spend today making jam:

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/843947779957248000/video/1

Did he set out to satirise this ?

Watson is a dinosaur that is in the wrong party and has not a clue - he is the problem not corbyn. All he keeps on doing with statements like that is giving the tory press ammo

Tom Watson has his own mandate from the same people who elected JC

Momentum seeks to ensure members have a greater voice in the party as it is its mass membership that will help Labour win the next general election.

That's Jon Lansman.

Cloud Cuckoo. Is he a teapot?

Crack on with it 🙂

Watson is a dinosaur that is in the wrong party and has not a clue - he is the problem not corbyn.

A statement that in so few words perfectly summarises the total and complete detachment from reality of your average Corbyn fanboi/apoligist/supporter/lefty mentalist.

Don't tell me.... its only the bastard PLP that stands in the way of Jezza, John and Dianne... oh.... and good old Len.... totally reversing their catastrophic polling, and leading the revolution with a massive labour landslide, as they march a grateful nation to the sunny socialist uplands

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Baroness Shakrabati, you forgot her binners. Sir Keith seems to have stopped towing the Corbyn line too.

It wasn't so much that Labour lost in Scotland they have been totally obliterated. Its at the point that voters there see no point voting Labour as "they can't win". That's the danger Labour faces in England and Wales now too.

Speaking to our local labour party bods, they just have an air of resigned despair. They know whats coming. They fully expect to be decimated in the local elections in May. losing swathes of councils across the north, that have been labour since the dawn of time. To a sitting, second term Tory govenment. Previously unimaginable before Jezza's 'Project'. Now just expected.

But even then, I doubt it'll make much impact in the Islington Bunker...

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The only light at the end of the tunnel is that Andy Burnham will be elected as Manchester mayor. By employing the same tactic as Sadiq Khan in London. Distancing himself from the Corbyn madhouse, while not being openly publicly hostile. Basically doing what the electorate are doing. Just ignoring him

I doubt we'll be seeing Jezza up here to 'help out' with the campaign anyway. I expect they've been told in no uncertain terms that they're not welcome. Corbyn wanted his place-man as candidate - The totally anonymous, useless (a man in his own mould) and corrupt Tony Lloyd. So there's no love lost

Agreed binners. The Labour highlights will be Kahn and Burnham and hopefully for the Labour Party enough members will see that is the sort of politician they need going forward.

On a lighter note 🙂

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I like Burnham but he looked completely lost in both the
leadership elections he has contested.

Jezza once again thinking outside the box at PMQs with a series of questions about police funding. I suppose it's not like anything else is going on today.

finger on the pulse yet again?

Jezza once again thinking outside the box at PMQs with a series of questions about police funding

Yeah, but look at his massive man[s]hood[/s]date!

Phwoar, eh? Phwoar!

I preferred it when he looked like he wasn't trying. Brown blazer, biro in pocket etc. "Jill from Lewes has wrote to me about bin collections..." etc

I'm starting to think Corbyn is some genius satirical plan by Chris Morris.

He's being interviewed by Andrew Neil on BBC1. My 13 year old daughter has a firmer handle on the economics and principles of the EU.

He's like some bloke disinterestedly rambling about it in the pub. He thinks getting out of the EU will allow a labour government to get involved in the state funding and intervention of certain industries. The 70's just phoned Jezza. They want their policies back...

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Can you hear that noise? That's the sound of Kier Starmer smashing his face repeatedly into his desk

I do now actually believe he's a Tory stooge

He's like some bloke disinterestedly rambling about it in the pub.

Don't agree. He seems fairly composed to me.

When you're asked to score enthusiasm out of 10 to know things are grave.

He seems fairly composed to me.

"Willing to admit there are unknowns."

I respect that in Politicians.

Willing to admit there are unknowns?

The whole thing is a ****ing mahoosive unknown!

But then he's already written Theresa a blank cheque, so I don't suppose anything he has to say is of much relevance. Which given that he had absolutely nothing whatsoever to say is probably just as well

The whole thing is a ****ing mahoosive unknown

Yes but which politician of any pursuasion would ever say that? Or anything like that - they would come across as hysterical, and have their faces projected on to the moon or a turnip by the Sun.

All politicians are subject to a fine line of dialogue aren't they? They can't really express themselves like we can.

Only a few MPs ever get close - Dennis Skinner / George Galloway spring to mind, and we've seen what the newspapers do to them.

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Only a few MPs ever get close - Dennis Skinner / George Galloway spring to mind, and we've seen what the newspapers do to them.

Both Brexiteers too.

I have heard Sturgeon when asked a difficult complex question say ( I paraphrase) " Thats a very difficult question with no easy answers, my personal instinct is this, we will have to consult with experts and formulate a policy as a party"

Perciliar article written by JC here:
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/opinion/jeremy-corbyn-there-is-an-alternative-to-bargain-basement-brexit-1-8465486

On the one hand I agree with a lot of the content. On the other it doesn't sound like he's written it - It contains stuff he's hardly managed to mention in PMQs - i.e. an actual rebuttal of May's "Bankrupt Britain" line.

Maybe he has written it - and that's why it's like a brain dump.
Full of errors that should have been picked up by a profreader too.
"But there is no evidence of that whatever"
"Other of our goals"
It's a bit hyphen-happy too.

Given Corby's stated opinions in that piece, his determination to enforce a three line whip to ensure that the labour party, waves the government through to do the complete opposite of what he wants, is even more inexplicable.

Or maybe I'm looking for clarity from someone who just doesn't do clarity, especially not on Europe

I can see that he wanted to honour the result of the referendum.
Also - if he'd have said 'we'll block a tory brexit' but if we get into power we'll brexit safely for you', he would have got absolutely nowhere.
This fight was lost last spring. Cameron is initially to blame. Then the EU for not throwing him a bone in his 'negotiations'. Now May is going to use it to bleed everyone dry.

Thing is, I'm still no clearer what Corbyn is for. I know he's against nuclear, and at odds with most of his colleagues but I haven't seen a passionate vision from him on anything. He seems to treat the possible break up of the union as an academic exercise, is nominally pro Europe but also anti. and is clear he wants to hold the government to account despite doing the complete opposite for over a year.

Thing is, I'm still no clearer what Corbyn is for.

Thats you, me, and everyone else then

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He is pro;
Making jam. Sugar free, obviously , as he's totally anti-sugar on health grounds.
Taking a day in lieu if he takes a phone call on a Sunday.
Motorbike holidays.
Grey shell suits.
Stem angles.
His magnificent man[s]hood[/s]date.

But of course, whenever he's on TV he's only asked about Trident, Shoot-to-kill, Anti-semitism, etc. So it's no surprise that you don't know what they are.

CFH - you missed out manhole covers - or was that your last one?

So if zero hour contracts are banned, what will the new higher limit be? 1hr? 10hr? 37hr?

Isn't Ken the one re manhole covers? And Hitler, obviously.

PS: Alex can you link to those policies on a more reliable source, like the Labour Party website for instance?

You forgot the last bullet point

• The planting of more magic money trees

You forgot the last bullet point

• The planting of more magic money trees

Quite. Besides, "a green economy creating a million jobs" isn't a policy, it's pie in the sky waffle. I could just as easily say that I'll create a pie economy creating ONE BILLION jobs.

Kick profit makers out of our* NHS? Really? Where does the line get drawn? Diesel in an ambulance, only from a state petrol station? Medical devices? No, you can't have any profit for your company, employees or product development, we only pay cost. Or buy from a state owned medical device manufacturer. Silly pie in the sky waffle, not a policy.

*Please would politicians stop this? It's the NHS. Saying our every time you say NHS doesn't make it any more important than it already is. Nor does it mean you can lay claim to it any more than anyone else.

Afaik neither the Labour Party nor the Conservative Party have issued a manifesto since the 2015 GE.
Both parties have begun the Policy Forum process that is meant to form a manifesto leading up the 2020 GE.

The source material for the JC policies (which is the question asked) was from the Jeremy Corbyn Leadership campaign last summer.

http://www.jeremyforlabour.com/policies