[Closed] Is this T-Shirt offensive?

Can't answer that as I'm not a "bird".
However it is offensive in its shit unfunniness.

Flipping heck! Is there a forum where people go around finding stuff to get offended about??

I'd say any who would wear it is likely to be a bit of a sadsack, and is very unlikely to have women (apart from their Mum) play a major role in their life

I was particularly impressed with Stainsberrys kiddies clothes a t-shirt from which said "I hate school"

I'd say overall, because of the negative connotations of covertly watching women through binoculars, yes it is.

There's much more to get worked up about than this t-shirt though.

I am offended by her predisposition to being offended.

a) you don't have the right to be offended suchly and

b) you should try being a woman some time.

Anonytagger = My Hero.

We don't need no edjukayshun.

Seems like a useful way of identifying those that need to be culled.

Then there's the advert that appears on the right when you open this post.... >>>>>>>
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[i]b) you should try being a woman some time.[/i]

It's not easy you know. Despite the clothes and make up, deep down, I know I'm still a man.

I didn't do the tag, but I must say I agree with it 🙂

molgrips - Member

I am offended by her predisposition to being offended.

a) you don't have the right to be offended suchly and

Irony LOLs - oh hang on were you being ironic?

SBZ - I take it as a badge of honour when the weak use the tags. You're up there with me and TJ now.

Irony LOLs - oh hang on were you being ironic?

Not really, I was talking more along moral lines. As in you can't blame someone else for being offended by something that is nothing to do with you, but everything to do with them.

Or to put it another way, it's none of your business.

You're up there with me and TJ now

Oh the accolade!

I think the shirt is offensive. Anything which perpetuates myths and misconceptions and reinforces stereotypes is offensive. This shirt almost celebrates the level of ignorance associated with the idea that binoculars result in two channels of monocular vision. Too often on TV do we see the view from binoculars represented as being'binocular' shaped. This extends the stereotype to promote the idea that each lens will register a different image. I mean where do these image come from and if the binoculars are aligned properly, why aren't they both showing the same thing? I'd like them to try drawing the ray diagrams which result in the images being represented here. Just ignorance and setting a poor example for kids. I think.

SBZ, I take it you brought the t-shirt?

"Somali Cerise, prevention manager" She's just doing her job.

CM the picture represents the big end of the binoculars, so the dancing girls are reflections in the glass. That's why the images are different.

Although if you were that close to get no overlap you'd not need binoculars.

CharlieMungus has a point - it's just bad science.

CM the picture represents the big end of the binoculars, so the dancing girls are reflections in the glass.

But why would they reflect different things?

molgrips - Member

Irony LOLs - oh hang on were you being ironic?

Not really, I was talking more along moral lines. As in you can't blame someone else for being offended by something that is nothing to do with you, but everything to do with them.

Or to put it another way, it's none of your business.

Erm...you do see the irony in that I hope?

Well I see what you mean but SbZ posted it on an internet discussion forum for discussion - so I'm discussing it.

The point is, why does he feel so involved in the issue that he has to complain about her to all and sundry?

But why would they reflect different things?

Well if you are standing in between the girls and the bins, and the bins are say to your left - the first lens reflects the girls behind you and further to your left, and the second behind you and further still to your left.

[i]Erm...you do see the irony in that I hope?[/i]

Nope.
He was discussing SbZ's post, which is his business.

[edit] I notice you haven't done that at all on the thread. How unusual.

you'd have to be a bit of a simpleton with zero style to wear it.. only your particularly thick mate.. or that lad at the tip.. the one who gets fun from putting twigs in stray dogs bottoms.. only they would find it genuinely funny..
everyone else would find it a little bit embarrassing due to it's bad taste.. sexist or otherwise..

you would have to be pretty out of touch with the universe to think it was a worthwhile purchase if you were aiming to impress anyone with it..

the only way that I can see it having any valid use in society is if you and your wife have a sense of humour based on your appreciation for each others basic simple human faults.. and wish to remind each other with a t-shirt..

EDIT: after seeing jengledows link (which I kind of like a bit) I'm reminded of much worse T-shirts for the campaigners to get upset about if they think the shirt is promoting bad behaviour..
that shirt printed with 'rohypnol.. helping ****s like me get laid since 1983' is a prime example..

ho hum (drum)

i'm now offended that someone could be offended at me being offended by them being offended.

I'd say any who would wear it is likely to be a bit of a sadsack, and is very unlikely to have women (apart from their Mum) play a major role in their life

^ This! As a woman, I think the shirt's useful as you can see from a glance that the bloke probably reads Nuts and has an IQ that struggles to break into double figures.

I find the kids t-shirts that say stuff like "I hate school", "Future WAG" and "WAG in training" more offensive.

JEngledow's t-shirt [i]is[/i] funny.

It is without doubt the most offensive t-shirt i have ever seen.

Turquise? A turquise t-shirt? With yellow text? yellow? Yellow and turquise?

I'm afraid by admittedly very delicate aesthetic receptors feel like they have been violated. I think i may have to lie in a darkened room for a while

Well if you are standing in between the girls and the bins, and the bins are say to your left - the first lens reflects the girls behind you and further to your left, and the second behind you and further still to your left

No

I'd say any who would wear it is likely to be a bit of a sadsack, and is very unlikely to have women (apart from their Mum) play a major role in their life

Well for a start it'd say 'I buy my clothes from a supermarket'. I don't think you'd need to delve much further than that really

How's it offensive? It just lets you know that the person who wears it is a dick. Saves you, and other people who don't like it, from wasting your time talking with them. Maybe more people should wear shirts that clearly remark their prejudices. At the same time, women who don't mind being objectified and/or peered at from behind a bush can get strike up a conversation.

a) you don't have the right to be offended suchly and

"Suchly" isn't a word.

b) you should try being a woman some time.

Because there's only one 'type' of woman? Because all women are the same? That's just 'positive' prejudice; surely?

If find shopping at Tesco / people who are foolish enough to shop at Tesco offensive..

The T-shirt (as stated above )is a great way of letting the world know you're a Townie d*ck...

Plus its a T-shirt, who cares - in the grand scheme of things there is far more to worry about in the World (or not as the case may be)

That jesus t-shirt. ........I happened to be in someone's house a few months ago who was wearing one (he was very ill, probably terminally) . When I mentioned 'nice t-shirt', he explained that it was bought in response to a local clergyman who had made a comment re his condition and a reference to 'Gods life plan, works in mysterious ways etc etc' which had really pissed him off at the time. We had a wry laugh about it.

Regarding the Tesco t-shirt, I agree with the above that it's a quick and easy way of spotting a nobhead, so by selling them, Tesco are actually performing a service for women.

The t-shirts themselves are never as offensive as the conclusions i make about the wearers.

b) you should try being a woman some time.

Because there's only one 'type' of woman? Because all women are the same? That's just 'positive' prejudice; surely?

No, because you would experience how society behaves to women in general, and what it might feel like. You might not care, but you might.

Or to put it another way, try seeing things from someone else's point of view instead of flaming them for having one.

Thing is, historically women are often the victim of things like stalking and voyeurism, it can be part of wider abuse and intimidation but it's usually not very nice if it's unwanted.

This t-shirt just makes a joke out of it.

It's not particularly offensive. It is, however, shit, even by Tesco Value t-shirt standards.

Frankly if that's the worst thing "Object" can find to object to, they might as well close up shop, their work is done.

Mate of mine once got asked in a restaurant to do something about his attire or leave. He was wearing this -

(SFW warning, picture contains rude word, hence not hotlinked). He ended up turning it inside-out for the duration of the meal.

This t-shirt just makes a joke out of it.

I think perhaps the tee makes a joke out of the type of 'lad' who would wear such a garment. Arguably, it's irony (or I'm giving Tesco too much credit).

let's be brutally frank here. The words 'humorous' and 't-shirt' are hardly a match made in heaven, are they really? Ever!

The words 'humorous' and 't-shirt' are hardly a match made in heaven

If that's true, I need to discard half of my wardrobe.

Hm, maybe there's a thread in that, "Show me your genuinely humorous tee-shirts"?

Mate of mine once got asked in a restaurant to do something about his attire or leave. He was wearing this -

(SFW warning, picture contains rude word, hence not hotlinked). He ended up turning it inside-out for the duration of the meal.

No arguments here.

If find shopping at Tesco / people who are foolish enough to shop at Tesco offensive..

The T-shirt (as stated above )is a great way of letting the world know you're a Townie d*ck...

What's wrong with shopping at Tesco? What's Townieness got to do with anything?

No, because you would experience how society behaves to women in general, and what it might feel like. You might not care, but you might.

Or to put it another way, try seeing things from someone else's point of view instead of flaming them for having one.

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It's like you haven't yet noticed that the moral high-horse you're on is actually stood, and probably trapped, in a hole. I'm sure you're a lovely bloke, molgrips, but you're about as sharp as a marble.

Thing is, it's all relative. It's probably not wholly difficult to get a t-shirt which alludes to being fellated by the Queen, or promotes genocide of all the brown people, for instance.

Comparatively here, we've got some halfwit wrapping his beer-belly in a t-shirt whose entire raison d'etre revolves around a bird (feathered variety) / bird (mildly derogatory slang for 'woman') "pun" and some graphics that a GSCE art student would be ashamed of.

I fear that what we're missing here, perhaps, is what politicians might call "bigger issues."

I fear that what we're missing here, perhaps, is what politicians might call "bigger issues."

I agree. Well, so long as what you are referring to is the fact the 'birds' in the picture could do with bigger baps. If this is what you mean, then I agree with Cougar

You're quite right. I got a chip butty the other day and the bap it came on was tiny. Down with small baps!

Apropos of nothing,

Object's campaign page on "beauty pageants" is four pages long. Their campaign page on "violence against women" is four sentences. It seems that their focus pretty much in its entirely is exactly this sort of thing, historically they've targeted "lads mags" and strip clubs and suchlike also.

Pah! They're probably all lezzers anyway 😉

I was at a little festival in the west country a few years ago and I walked past a miserable looking sod wearing a t-shirt that said 'Juggling is Shit'.

Only t-shirt that has actually made me laugh aloud.

[i] "Show me your genuinely humorous tee-shirts"?[/i]

Humourous, maybe. Appropriate? Definitely.

(not really a real t-shirt btw)

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(not really a real t-shirt btw)

But it should be................................anyone?

DezB - I'm offended at your flagrant swear-filter avoidance.

I'm sure you're a lovely bloke, molgrips, but you're about as sharp as a marble.

from this unbiased point of view.. I think that the point is being very much missed.. but by the accusers.. and that the intelligence deficit is very firmly in the other direction..

ironically..

No

A spokeswoman for Object yesterday....
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I think that the point is being very much missed.. but by the accusers.. and that the intelligence deficit is very firmly in the other direction.

You'd be wrong, though.

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no he would not be, you would be.

It's like you haven't yet noticed that the moral high-horse you're on is actually stood, and probably trapped, in a hole. I'm sure you're a lovely bloke, molgrips, but you're about as sharp as a marble.

Ok then, would you like to enlighten me?

I think perhaps the tee makes a joke out of the type of 'lad' who would wear such a garment. Arguably, it's irony (or I'm giving Tesco too much credit).

Yeah, perhaps.. but then again perhaps not. Hard to say. Plus it's about the spirit with which it's worn I suspect. Although that's very hard to prove one way or the other.

Frankly if that's the worst thing "Object" can find to object to, they might as well close up shop, their work is done

Is it the worst they can find?

I bet that if the head of Tesco value tshirts was a woman who'd been subjected to stalking, the design would not have got through. That means something doesn't it?

Ok then, would you like to enlighten me?

I like the T-shirt. I'd wear it with pride! What's the problem? Pussies!

Junkyard - 🙂

Even the t-shirt cannot stop them ❗

sh1tforbrains

A login with swearfilter avoidance - crikey 😯

I'm just wondering - do some people have a login appropriate to a variety of topics and the nature of their response?

Eh?

Maybe it's someone from Hope?

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If it's good enough for Hope it's good enough for STW.

"This T-shirt is objectionable on so many levels," said Anna van Heeswijk, campaigns manager for lobby organisation Object.

Somali Cerise, prevention manager for the End Violence Against Women coalition, added: "It is deeply concerning that a major high-street retailer such as Tesco sells products that perpetuate the sexualisation of women.

I'm guessing we've found TJ's & Elfins real names then 😆

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with appropriate comment added bigyinn 😀

Not as offensive as the **** who will be wearing it.
who will invariably be called Gaz, Baz or Daz

I agree with Mrs Toast in that at least when the douche-bags wear the tshirts, they are easier to identify.

[i]who will invariably be called Gaz, Baz or Daz[/i]

phew

HAHAHAHA Yes or Davie-boy, or Stevie-boy or something like that.

Hey, what's wrong with Baz, Gaz and Daz? they're good friends of mine.

There's nothing wrong with admiring the female form and advertising the fact with a humorous T-shirt.

phew

...or Dez, Tez or Bez and anyone who wears a fez.

8)

There's nothing wrong with admiring the female form and advertising the fact with a humorous T-shirt.

Possibly not. That's hardly it tho 🙂

Or Les

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I bet that if the head of Tesco value tshirts was a woman who'd been subjected to stalking, the design would not have got through. That means something doesn't it?

The troll in me wants to say, "yes, it means she'd be putting personal feelings in front of rational business decisions, which is why a man should be doing that job instead," but I'd worry that someone might actually think I'm being remotely serious.

Devil's advocates aside, I guess all it really means is that you can speculate with the best of them. You can't seriously be making up a hypothetical situation, giving it a fictitious conclusion and then going "so that proves it then," shirley?