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 jhw
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Breakfast - big bowlful of porridge with sugar

Lunch - 3 oranges 2 apples 1 tomato

Dinner - omelette with 3 eggs, 2 largeish sliced potatoes, a large red pepper, lentils, an onion and some cheese; a tomato; and a bowlful of broccoli

If you eat this for a year will you die?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:21 pm
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it's a shite diet

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Posted : 27/06/2011 3:22 pm
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Try it?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:22 pm
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It's not a "diet" as such, it's just what one eats. Does it contain all essential nutrients etc.?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:24 pm
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If you eat this for a year you will wish you were dead.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:25 pm
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obviously with the odd cake, eating out etc., cos one has to, but in general as a base diet


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:26 pm
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3 oranges 2 apples 1 tomato

Thats not a lunch, its a snack. Maybe have some nice oily fish and some nuts instead.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:28 pm
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Can't stink out the office with fish

Lunch is definitely the weak spot though. This has been my diet for a few months (largely to save cash) and you get a bit knackered between 4:30 and 6:30.

The above costs about £6.50 a day on food. Not sure how you could do cheaper without just living on onions.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:31 pm
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Cook stuff at night and take it into work and reheat for lunch?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:34 pm
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How on earth does that cost £6.50/day?

Also it's not very many calories (especially as you're a cyclist), unless it's a truly gigantic bowl of porridge and portion of cheese....?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:38 pm
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Doesn't look good to me.

What's the aim of this diet? Weight loss?

EDIT holy cow, £6.50?!


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:38 pm
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Thats a shite diet man.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:41 pm
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Shite on what basis (other than that it's a tad depressing)

er sorry to be a stoopid but holy cow because too much or too little?

the aim of this diet is to compensate for massively increased beer consumption and a more sedentary lifestyle since moving to Belgium!

I've calculated it's about 1800 calories a day. Not enough - but there are a lot of kebabs/meals out/free sandwiches/chocolates at work too so I think overall it's OK


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:42 pm
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How can you possibly think eating the same thing everyday is doing you any good?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:45 pm
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If you eat this for a year will you die?

Try it, I suspect you'll get some warning unless you include Fugu


 
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Holy cow that's a lot of money for that food. £45/week.

I don't think you want to be eating the same stuff every day, do you?

If you want to keep the weight down, that's going to do you no good at all.. see iDave diet threads... Your breakfast and lunch are high GI and won't keep you going very well through the day.. which might keep you snacking on those chocolates and kebabs...


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:47 pm
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£6.50 a day??!!

Do you mean a week, or are those golden eggs??


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:48 pm
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But if the same thing every day is in fact lots of different things?

Alternatives? I like the idea of throwing in some oily fish and nuts, beyond that I don't see the problem with the above - I'd hoped to have pointed out to me specifically what was missing, if anything. I can see that it's depressing obviously, but healthy diets are.

er OK in saddo fashion the breakdown is

3 eggs are about 70p
an onion is about 15p
lentils? about 20p for 1/3 a can
cheese - 40p
pepper - 50p

the fruit and tomatoes are 50p each = £3.50
the porridge works out at about £1

So yeah about £6.50

Bear in mind there are no large supermarkets near me - I'm using a medium-sized Tesco equivalent. Where were you thinking?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:48 pm
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It depends on what theory of dietetics you believe to be true. Acoording to conventional wisdom its not bad. Plenty other theories about. Some fish and beans would not go amiss. Too many eggs as well tho the advice on eggs is always changing.

Go to the NHS site for the conventional wisdom on diet. You can also consider some of the various low Gi low carb low sugar diets.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:49 pm
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I shared a house with a chap at university who ate fish finger and frozen pea sandwiches (on thin sliced white bread) every evening for the first term. His parents were loaded too!


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:50 pm
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Answer the bloody question about money FGS man!


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:50 pm
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No it's not what I'd class as 'healthy' but i've seen a lot worse. Add protein at breakfast and lunch, ditch the sugar and substitute fruit and replace fruit with vegetables at lunch.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:52 pm
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Thanks - helpful

See above edit re £££

Query. Is cinnamon as bad as sugar? (I know it's ghey to have anything in your porridge, should put salt in true manly style, etc.)


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:53 pm
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Breakfast - big bowlful of porridge with fruit + probiotic yoghort

Lunch - fish or chicken + green veg

Snack - nuts

Dinner - omelette with 3 eggs, 2 largeish sliced potatoes, a large red pepper, lentils, an onion and some cheese; a tomato; and a bowlful of broccoli

rotate your fruit and veg and you'll be good to go. oh and cook with evo to get some good fats in there.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:56 pm
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berrocca tablets are 20p each and have more vitamins than your lunch.

just saved you £3.30 a day 🙂


 
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Even shopping at Waitrose I could get it cheaper than that.

If you're doing it for financial reasons you need to sort it out!

BTW - there's been a series on about the human body.

A woman was eating nothing but (I think) Pickled Onion Monster Munch... it's all she'd eaten for many years... she took them abroad with her by the suitcase full... she was alive.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:59 pm
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Why on earth would tree bark be as bad as pure processed carbs? You're a bit of a newbie at this game aren't you? 🙂

Cinnamon has no calories in it, but also has a stabilising effect on blood sugar. It's very good to eat this stuff.

Re the money - the fruit costs more than the rest of your day put together - that's just silly. There's also hardly any nutrition in apples and oranges, you're wasting your time and money with that. And £1 a day for oats? Eh? On Amazon you can buy 12kg of porridge for £18!


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:01 pm
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There's also hardly any nutrition in apples and oranges, you're wasting your time and money with that.
🙄 Apart from the vitamins and fibre even if you discount the calories


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:02 pm
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"Is eating the same thing every day healthy?"

No.

Your body needs a complex mix of nutrients to keep functioning. To achieve this (and to stop us being bored shirtless) we eat different things, so that one day we might be a little iron deficient but we get plenty the next day and it all balances out through the law of averages.

If you eat the same thing day in, day out, even it it's a healthy diet for the day, sooner or later you're going to keel over due to deficiency of something random like zinc vitamin A.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:04 pm
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And £1 a day for oats?

... and milk, presumably.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:05 pm
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Here, have a look at this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_Reference_Intake


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:05 pm
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Apart from the vitamins and fibre even if you discount the calories

Vitamin C?

He seems to be getting plenty of fibre elsewhere.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:06 pm
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Not enough protein in that diet. Aim to have some form of protein with every meal. What's protein I hear you ask?. Well basically anything that had eyes or came out of something that had eyes (milk, cheese) is protein. As said above also look at getting some healthy fats down you. Oily fish (mackerel,salmon), nuts, avocado are all good to have.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:12 pm
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Well basically anything that had eyes

Including black eyed peas 🙂 You forgot legumes and pulses in there.. beans, lentils etc. also nuts.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:13 pm
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OK, ditch the sugar, a bit less fruit, a bit more...other stuff. Maybe I will throw in a leek, some fish and some nuts. Many thanks.

Will see about doing this cheaper as it's the key driver...I checked Tesco's website after you flagged this to me but the cheapest 12pack of free range eggs are at the price I say; fruit could be cheaper but the very cheapest fruit is usually pretty minging. Porridge too could be cheaper if I did something drastic like bought it on Amazon but these are just Quaker Oats, nothing special! So in short prices aren't the absolute cheapest possible but it's not like I'm buying absurd "Whole Foods"/"Waitrose" piffle either.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:13 pm
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Do yourself a favour tho and check some real data on nutrition. A lot of rubbish and unconventional theory posted on here.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:16 pm
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6 pieces of fruit is expensive and not useful tbh.

Seriously though - £1 a day for porridge? The stuff on Amazon was Quaker oats in boxes btw. Quaker Oats in Tesco are £2.75 for 1.5kg, so you'd need to be eating almost half the box for it to cost that much...


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:17 pm
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You're not wrong, got my sums wrong. More like 65p incl. milk


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:21 pm
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Has Lunch been based around the 'traffic light system' of food labelling
Red - Tomato
Amber - Orange
Green - Apple?


 
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If you're adamant that it costs you that much I'd be looking to make some casseroles and the like... get meat on offer... make a massive batch and freeze etc.

Buy dried lentils, cous cous is bloody cheap stuff too.

Onions in bulk from Waitrose are 85p for a kg... they should last you a while.

I eat a hell of a lot more, and a hell of a lot better than you for little more money!


 
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OK, ditch the sugar, a bit less fruit, a bit more...other stuff. Maybe I will throw in a leek, some fish and some nuts.

I checked Tesco's website after you flagged this to me but the cheapest 12pack of free range eggs are at the price I say; fruit could be cheaper but the very cheapest fruit is usually pretty minging. Porridge too could be cheaper if I did something drastic like bought it on Amazon but these are just Quaker Oats, nothing special! So in short prices aren't the absolute cheapest possible but it's not like I'm buying absurd "Whole Foods"/"Waitrose" piffle either.

You should be able to eat 'healthily' for a fiver a day. Protein is most expensive, so things like tuna, eggs, milk, turkey, beans/pulses are all good as they don't cost too much.

Carbs are cheap, bulk buy oats and potatoes. Cheap veg is ok also.

Fats you can get from olive oil and nuts.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:30 pm
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One shouldn't discount the nutritional goodness of Belgian beers


 
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Well basically anything that had eyes
Including black eyed peas You forgot legumes and pulses in there.. beans, lentils
Yeah sorry I forgot about them. Don't normally have them.( Mind you, I would have fergie out of the black eyed peas 8) ). I usually only eat meat. It must be the caveman in me. Ugg ugg 😀


 
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Why knock Waitrose? some of the stuff is cheaper than my local ASDA plus a lot of stuff is price matched with Tesco and Sainburys. Cheapest fruit I find is bananas, normally get about 5 large ones for about 80 pence and why not trying something like mixed beans and tuna for lunch.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:40 pm
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Lunch - 3 oranges 2 apples 1 tomato

Perhaps they're not just oranges but Marks and Spencers specially selected, organic " I saw you coming" oranges.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 4:49 pm
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Breakfast - big bowlful of porridge with sugar

[b]Dinner[/b] - 3 oranges 2 apples 1 tomato

[b]Tea[/b] - omelette with 3 eggs, 2 largeish sliced potatoes, a large red pepper, lentils, an onion and some cheese; a tomato; and a bowlful of broccoli

If you eat this for a year will you die?

FTFY.


 
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Many professional nutritionists will advise you to balance every meal with carb, protein and fat. In other words, you need more than just porridge for breakfast, as although it might be considered 'healthy' it is lacking in fats and protein if you mix it with just water or semi-skimmed milk. The advantage of balancing carb, protein and fats is that it will slow digestion and make you feel less hungry.

"Eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper" and you'll be reet...


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 5:45 pm
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professional nutritionists

Oxymoron.

Why knock Waitrose?

Have you considered hitting your local market for fruit and veg? Should be better and cheaper (and supports local trade). Failing that, Aldi / Lidl? You pay less of a premium for fruit that won't win beauty awards.

If this is purely a cost thing, good god man, what's wrong with rice and pasta? There's many a student subsisted for years on nothing but dried pasta, tinned tomatoes, a refill pack of oregano and 2L bottles of White Lightning.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 6:48 pm
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If this is purely a cost thing, good god man, what's wrong with rice and pasta? There's many a student subsisted for years on nothing but dried pasta, tinned tomatoes, a refill pack of oregano and 2L bottles of White Lightning

Ha, like it. Gotta sustain this though.

I really like getting told I'm spending too much - I'm notorious for being tight-fisted among my peers here so it's good to know there are others on the wavelength! People I know here piss 40 euros up the wall 3 nights a week and 80 at weekends and lose any possible financial independence in so doing. Can't stand it.


 
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Sustaining is entirely my point. You need variety, a) for health reasons and b) to stop you going round the bend. Stuff like rice (I'm talking the dried stuff at 10p/cwt rather than the farty little sachets that "serves two" and costs you two quid because they've added water and a couple of peas) adds bulk and is full of, uh, marrowbone jelly for a healthy wet nose, or something. Cereals, pulses, nuts, all good.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 7:10 pm
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A lot of rubbish and unconventional theory posted on here.

I concur.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 7:13 pm
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It's what we do best. What do you think this is, Wikipedia?

Oh.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 7:18 pm
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love it - many thanks!


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 8:11 pm